This trip was a Re-Do for a trip we cancelled due to wind a few weeks ago. Joining me were my son Ben and the Birthday Boys Andy (Drew) Stark, and his son Jake, who is also my nephew. (Happy Birthday guys!)The walleye were present as was advertised by those here on IDA who have been tackling a few piggies lately. We Picked up the G3 from Farm Island Marine in Aitkin and off we went in search of walleye in the dark. And I mean DARK! No moon, just a few stars from time to time, and a couple of yard lights. Technique is and was the key with little or no available light. Lure selection was not as much of a factor for me as was how the lures were presented.
We caught 15 fish all tolled. And 13 came from one rod. Unfortunately it was mine. I really wanted the kids to get into them. They were a little more in tune with reciting lines from South Park, than what was going on in the water 85 feet behind the boat! That is key to putting fish in the boat on moonless nights in my opinion. That, and putting lures where the fish are. Less than 30 seconds after putting out first line back pulling away from the Marina, I got crushed by this 24" fish. This told me what I wanted to know very quickly. Were the fish relating to weed or rock? Shallow or a bit deeper? Well this one clipped a Bomber Long A in 3 feet of water. I immediately put that lure on my son’s rod, and hooked up a Smithwick Rogue on mine. I got hit again a bit later with that. This fish came out of 3.5′ of water. A pattern this night was soon becoming apparent. Lure selection did not matter as much as presentation. We caught fish on Thundersticks, Rogues, Husky Jerks and Bomber Long A’s.
So now you need to prove it was either a fluke, or a pattern. The best way to do this is to do some large figure 8’s. By large I mean 50 yards out over the deepest area you plan to fish, and 50 yards over the shallowest… Make note of where the fish are coming from. You should know in relatively short order whether or not the fish are in the areas you are targeting. Also try a number of lures when doing this. Large stick baits with and without rattles. Chrome and painted like firetiger, or contrasting patterns. I try to always have 1 chome and one painted stick on until a clear pattern is established. I also will vary the amount of line I have out behind the boat. With large figure 8’s I can get by with 100-125 feet back. Shorter patterns, I use shorter lengths. I try to stick to nothing more than 75 when making short turns. I have made the observation over the years that my moonless fish tend to come from very shallow water, and not weeds. Rob Stenger and I trolled over some very shallow sand on the east side a few years back, and caught fish that I swear were trying to walk up onto shore! I believe without the moon, these weed fish are a little harder to catch. Impossible? no, I know a lot of guys here on IDA that are still pulling some nice fish over the weeds. But you may have to work a little harder for them.
It was apparent that this night, as in many nights where there is no moonlight, the fish for me were shallow. So I concentrated on rocks inside weedlines. This is where your tracking system on your GPS is critical. Because you will now be trolling in some awful skinny water. One pass a little in towards shore, and you will be ordering a new prop. Too far out, and you won’t contact the fish. Another critical presentation factor is how you hold the rod, and how you present the lure. This I believe is the reason my lines got bit more than the rest in the boat. A while back James Holst and I were sitting around the table talking about this very thing. He said "Do you ever realize how many more fish the Guide catches than some customers?" What he meant by this was that you develop a feel when on the water for a long period of time. You know that pulling the lure forward, and dropping it back on a tight line will often provoke a strike. That lure going back on a tight line stops it’s forward motion momentarily like a wounded minnow would. I believe a fish will follow a minnow bait for a bit, and judging by it’s cadence decides whether or not it is going to eat it. If the line is slack the fish may hit it, and realize it is not real and drop it. A tight line will hook up the fish immediately more often than not.
As a side note, we did manage 4 slot fish trolling shallow. We did not get one fish deeper than 4 FOW, and got none over the weeds. In all fairness, I did not get out over the top of the weeds, as the shallow fish were going better.
I will be up to Mille Lacs for a week starting the 19th, and ending the night of the 26th. If anyone is interested in spending a night out on Mille Lacs, give me a ring or a PM or email and inquire about available dates.
Good luck!!
Tuck
Keep it up and find some more only a little over a week till we get there.
By the time you get here we will have them in high gear!
Very nice fish and report Tuck. Sharing the details you did made this a VERY educational report. They don’t come better than that.
Thanks, Bill
Missed you up there this year Tuck.Sure do love it when there in shallow.Have a good week up there and keep the pictures coming
Great report with good details! I agree it is very important to pump the rod and let it pause and drop back. The nights i get lazy and don’t the fish count total shows. Amazing how they hit on the pause!
Now that is funny
Great read Tuck
I’m sure with South Park and all…..it was a great time on the water
Nice report Tuck. Go get em!
Nice fish guys!
Excellent report with great attention to the details that put more fish in the boat.
Good job Tuck!
Wish I could come up and go fishing with you on the big pond.
Boog
Tuck, your post is fantastic. The challenge with Mille Lacs in the fall is saying something new that will help people…you have done just that! Thanks for the great information, and well done.
Chris,
very nice report and good detail, wish I had it to read last week.
thanks,
Jack.
Great detailed report Tuck!
I learn stuff everytime with you & this time I did not even get in the boat with you.
Man you are not kidding it is dark with no moon. I still remember that night we had on Pikes Point with no moon and later trolled underneath the docks on the east side.
Thanks guys..
We all learn something new each time we get out. Some nights I learn I should have just stayed at Hunter’s.
This will be a good year, I know the census counts are down, but I do not think this is representitive of what is going on with the trophy fish in the lake. It may be more indicative of the younger year classes coming up. But the big fish population looks strong. These are the fish that we are targeting in the shallows in the Fall. Right now there is a fantastic bite going on in Leech, Gull and Long in Brainerd, and Ida is kicking out fish in Alex. Not to mention LOTW from where my uncle now nursing sore elbows from hooksets! They are all doing the same thing. Going shallow following the bait. It sounds weird..but think of photosynthesis. We all learned about it back in school. The sun moving over the horizon a bit causes trees to lose their leaves and fall. In lakes, it ends algae blooms, and the lack of photosynthesis makes the weeds die and lay down. What does that do to the bait fish? It leaves them vulnerable! So what does a million minnows and perch do to feel safe? School up! You will start seeing big balls of bait fish in the shallows, and the fish will be there. I saw that this weekend already. To say I am getting for this weekend is an understatement!
Chris,
Great advice and Great suggestions….
I hope to put them into practice soon.
Jack..
Great report tux! I hope those fish keep getting heavier so they are in prime condition for ice fishing!
Nice fish Chris.
Great report Chris! I’ve 8 more days until I’ll be there.
I can’t imagine anything more fun than being stuck in a boat at night with a couple of kids yelling “Timmy!…….
Timmy?……… Timmy.”
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More like Cartman with Tourettes…
Trust me, it was a blessing to call it a night at 3AM.