Went out of Morris Point this past weekend. Ice was all of my 30″scoop, up past my elbow. Estimated at about 43″. Had one 8 inch extension on the Pistol, was down to the plate, with the wheelhouse on the ice (no blocks), before I broke through. Buddy had an ion with one 12″ extension, no problems.
20 years of wildlife control. Hopefully 20 or so more body willing.
It’s all I drink too. The Wally world in Blaine has it well stocked, most of the time.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Wildlifeguy wrote:</div>
While I’d love my boys and my wife to be out there fishing with me, it’s just not happening. If that’s what it will take to make a meal (and in my case justifying the expense for all the crap it takes to get one) then it will just mean less fishing for me. While I’d love to be able to drop thousands for an “experience” I can’t justify it for something that literally provides no payback beyond happy feelings. I already catch crap for spending too much on a “hobby” as is, don’t need more. I’ve pretty much stopped going after <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>panfish cuz the lakes I used to frequent dropped the limit, and certainly cannot justify more expense to go further, to bring back even less (what do you suppose 5, 7 inch bluegills will feed?) I guess I just don’t have a place in today’s “outdoors” scene.I fish 95 percent of the time with out keeping fish. I do it for enjoyment. I hear what you are saying but respectfully don’t see it the same way. If I was only fishing for meat, then maybe I’d be more concerned, 90 percent of the days I do fish locally I wouldn’t even get a 4 fish limit.
I completely get that point of view, I clearly don’t take the same gratification as some do from the act of fishing itself. It could be the fact that I primarily ice fish, for the reasons above (and the fact I didn’t have a boat until recently), and ice fishing isn’t exactly what I’d label as “exciting”. In fact I have no problem with c/r outside of the sanctimonious nature of some of its biggest proponents, and what feels to me like a desire to make it non-optional from some folks. It feels like folks dislike folks who keep fish legally more than the criminals sometimes.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Wildlifeguy wrote:</div>
While I’d love my boys and my wife to be out there fishing with me, it’s just not happening. If that’s what it will take to make a meal (and in my case justifying the expense for all the crap it takes to get one) then it will just mean less fishing for me. While I’d love to be able to drop thousands for an “experience” I can’t justify it for something that literally provides no payback beyond happy feelings. I already catch crap for spending too much on a “hobby” as is, don’t need more. I’ve pretty much stopped going after <strong class=”ido-tag-strong”>panfish cuz the lakes I used to frequent dropped the limit, and certainly cannot justify more expense to go further, to bring back even less (what do you suppose 5, 7 inch bluegills will feed?) I guess I just don’t have a place in today’s “outdoors” scene.Take up tulibee fishing. You can fill a big otter sled with them when you get on them. I’ve done it in my younger days. They taste okay fried and are good smoked. You can keep lots of burbot too and they taste great.
If you are worried about saving money on fish, Cub Foods is probably your cheapest option. Much cheaper than catching them yourself.
Not a fan of the tulies, they do put up a decent fight, though. Its not the price of the fish, like I said I am not subsistence fishing here. Its the value proposition of the whole process, Its not like I’m getting greater value in my fishing experience from the reduced limit, I really din’t care about catching the biggest fish, nor do I need it to be shooting fish in a barrel to feel like I’m satisfied with an outing. The only tangible value I’m getting from the experience beyond the enjoyment of being outdoors and fishing, is the fish I get to enjoy as a result The enjoyment doesn’t change either way, so no benefit there, and my costs aren’t going down, in fact they are increasing. I am paying more to get less. Not because of anything I did, but due to the actions of others who won’t be forced to change their behavior in any way, they’ll be no MORE illegal now than they already were. All this, as was stated earlier, because OTHER anglers, with an entirely opposite view of the sport, answered a survey, apparently.
Or pike. The daily bag limit is 10 for crying out loud and they need to be thinned big time. Not to mention how easy they are to catch. The DNR is dang near begging people to keep more snot rockets with such a liberal daily bag limit. Take advantage of it. They are pretty good eating out of cold water if you remove the y bones.
I agree and I do. Its probably the least well received, of course,
Or pike. The daily bag limit is 10 for crying out loud and they need to be thinned big time. Not to mention how easy they are to catch. The DNR is dang near begging people to keep more snot rockets with such a liberal daily bag limit. Take advantage of it. They are pretty good eating out of cold water if you remove the y bones.
I agree and I do. Its probably the least well received, of course,
While I’d love my boys and my wife to be out there fishing with me, it’s just not happening. If that’s what it will take to make a meal (and in my case justifying the expense for all the crap it takes to get one) then it will just mean less fishing for me. While I’d love to be able to drop thousands for an “experience” I can’t justify it for something that literally provides no payback beyond happy feelings. I already catch crap for spending too much on a “hobby” as is, don’t need more. I’ve pretty much stopped going after panfish cuz the lakes I used to frequent dropped the limit, and certainly cannot justify more expense to go further, to bring back even less (what do you suppose 5, 7 inch bluegills will feed?) I guess I just don’t have a place in today’s “outdoors” scene.
Get it done.
4 fish on the river surely hasn’t hurt anything. My armchair observations show it hasn’t changed much in my boat for catch rate or size structure in a system where the fish grow so rapidly and forage is plentiful. The debate was presented regularly on here whether or not “Science” said the change was needed, but in the end I liked the idea of being proactive versus reactive…especially in a complex situation where both MN AND WI have legal jurisdiction over the same resource. The stars really had to align to make the change, so I supported it when the chance was there.
If I really want a fish fry for a group – I can still take my wife and oldest daughter out and troll up a limit of a dozen 16-18″ fish if I wanted when the bite is solid. The argument against the change being people “liking to eat fish” is flawed at best.
Except when you can’t. I’ll probably get out 5-10 times this year, probably on the lower end. Why? Because I have a job that is busy in the summer, so no time then, and because I’m a parent with multiple kids in multiple activites school/sports/church etc… What this reads to me is that my 5 times out catching two fish more than what the diehards desire, is SO destructive to the fisheries that I should just not bother. Not the game hogs, not the poachers, me. Well I suppose when everything just goes to c/r only, folks can finally be satisfied that only pure, proper fishing, by only those with the right trophy seeking mind set will be the only ones fishing.
Sure, I’ll just cancel all other activities they might have going on, increase that lodging cost and call it a day. It appears you missed the point of the rest if what I said. Basing policy on the case use of people who fish only for trophies, or tournamments, means ignoring the preference of what, 75%-85% percent of the fishing public, who does NOT have the ability to fish whenever they would like, aren’t wanting to spend weeks “patterning the bite” or anything but trying to go enjoy the outdoors in the little time they have, and hopefully bringing home a treat to enjoy for their efforts. It smacks of elitism from those who really don’t seem to want anyone but themselves able to enjoy the resource. As to how many fish is enough, get yourself some growing teenage boys and see how long those 8 filets last.
Waiting an additional week or not at all when using fish that I have legally kept to prepare a meal for my family. Not everyone has the option to “go out and get another limit tommorrow”.
I get it, I’m not subsistence fishing, but its gonna make great deal of difference as whether I’m gonna pack up, spend money on gas, bait, potentially lodging and food to drive several hours away to fish when I cannot even bring enough home for a single meal. A lot of the appeal of fishing to me is the opportunity to enjoy the physical fruit of my effort. I don’t much care about trying to catch the biggest, I find mounting fish as trophies silly, and don’t really count fooling animals with brains the size of peas much of an achievement. Beyond that, lowering limits, particulary on panfish, in the absence of corresponding slot limits, will simply push harvest to larger fish and result in stunted populations (which would seem to defeat the purpose).
I also fully understand what seems to be the impulse towards gatekeeping the outdoors that seems to be the true animus to much of what passes as debate on outdoors topics these days. Trophy culture will be the death of hunting and fishing, not any electronic. I hear more impassioned arguments about how whatever controversial topic being discussed affects tournament anglers that 95% of the population couldn’t care less about, than I ever do about what can be done encourage more folks to take up angling. More time spent on running down fellow outdoorsman and women for “not doing it right”, than spent on figuring out how to recruit more youth into the sports.
I mean do what you want, but making fishing even less of a value proposition than it is now certainly isn’t gonna make it grow, if thats even what anyone wants anymore.
Before we sold our old house, I had replaced the softener with one bought off the shelf at HD. I wouldn’t bother with hiring someone, I am not what anyone would consider “handy”, and I was able to pull the old one, prep and reinstall the new one, and have everything up and running in under three hours, sans a flood. I think all told I spent about $300, and if you already have some of the tools, probably closer to $250. I’m sure that prices have increased on the actual softeners, this was approximately 2016-18, but unless you are looking for the top of the line I wouldn’t feel comfortable spending more than $500.
Meh, at this point I think I’ll just wait until whatever generation they start financing these things, or more likely move to a subscription model.
Does three sizes of portables and now a single axle wheelhouse count? (Gonna need to build a second garage to store everything pretty soon…
Well I for one (after finally pulling the trigger on a wheelhouse after 10 years of pipe dreaming) am hoping for a 2013 type of winter. Give me extensions needed in the metro 
Well looks like I won’t be missing Fox Spor..erBallerrrr ….FanDuel Sports or whatever gambling outfit owns it next
Yay, we get to be on somebody else’s trivia question again…
This trash is worse than even I expected. About the only silver lining is the Knicks looking just as bad. Hopefully this game doesn’t turn into the clown show that one did.
I’ll still maintain this was a move about money, and the basketball effects were a distant second consideration. I don’t share your enthusiasm for Randle, nor the belief that any second big deal is coming. The other guy is a back-up, and while the shooting is nice he will in reality probably just hinder the development of the two guys we just drafted. This is a wing and a prayer hope that Naz and Jaden can still improve while not paying the tax. If it works, great, if it doesn’t you’ve just wasted the prime of the guy you picked to be lead dog, and we’re back in the usual Wolves rut. With so little draft capital remaining, there’s really no margin for error, and no place between those options. I would wager most rational Wolves fans expect the worst as its usually what happens with this team.
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I love Naz, don’t get me wrong. I just think some Wolves fans have blinders on when it comes to his limitations. The story is great, but he wasn’t highly sought after coming out for a reason. To his credit he’s worked his butt off to be a more complete player, but he’s not suddenly gonna be a different body type or taller. I think he played his perfect role last season, and the returns will diminish with more time. My biggest worry is what happens when ANT invariably goes down for any length of time, as he has every year lately, and who picked up the scoring slack. There’s no one least on this squad that has proven they can do that for any length of time, and Randle ain’t it.
Problem is this minimizes Naz, he was best as mismatch 3, he’s ordinary as a true 4 and Randle isn’t playing that spot. Takes away his niche. I don’t take the popular opinion on Jaden, he’s a head case, great defender when he’s not taking stupid, emotional fouls, ok on offense, when he feels like it and isn’t all up in his own head. If he wasn’t still young, honestly I’d have rather flipped him over Kat, at least the ROI would have been better. Btw that draft pick isn’t all it’s cracked up to be, unless one suddenly has a great deal of optimism about the perennially awful Pistons.
Not gonna lie, underwhelmed. Don’t get me wrong, not a fan of Kat’s antics, but Randle is just as big a turd, and a downgrade in every basketball aspect, PLUS he can’t stay on the floor. Couldn’t pick the other guy out of a two person line-up. We now have quite literally no one on the roster capable of guarding Joker, and are one ANT injury away from offensive irrelevance. There isn’t a player that would have been a worse trade than Randle, he won’t last 2 seasons here, book it. On the plus side, at least I won’t have to watch the slide back to mediocrity, I still ain’t paying one red cent more for Bally’s.
REALLY hoping for ice this year, as I finally pulled the trigger on a fish house a couple weeks ago. So hopefully gonna hit the big ones (Red, ML, LOW, Winnie) and maybe throw in a few “I’d try it if I had a fish house and could stay a while” kinda spots. Probably wind up getting out once or twice, and wish for more, but after the last couple years, I’ll take it.
For future reference…makes life a lot easier. They go up nearly 3 stories
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Hey Bearcat, what league is that out of curiosity? My older son played 13u Gopher State this summer, we’re nowhere that level, from the sounds of things, just rec league in our case, but pretty sure all the travel teams were playing mounds and 75′ base paths I think? All kids except maybe a few held back are going into eighth grade in the fall.
Spooky looking last hour here in the N Metro
Way I do it is 1/4 inch hardware cloth, cut a rectangle maybe 7″-9″ by 15″ to 17″, make a half tube, wider at the top, put the wide end to the hole or gap, staple the screen down to the shingles, siding, whatever surface you’re on. Bats have to land and crawl in, they don’t just fly in a hole like a bird. If it’s vinyl, brick, LP etc… tape works, but be careful what you use. Bats can’t chew, so it doesn’t need to be anything super durable. This applies to things like soffit gaps, what we call “overlaps”, I think the technical term is soffit returns, siding holes, whatever. If it’s something like a fascia corner or drip edge, where you don’t have a long enough flat surface to attach, you can still use the screen, just make a full cone, and make sure you angle it down a a decent angle, or you can use aluminum flashing. If you look online, it’ll tell you you need a valve or, some window screen or something at the end, in my experience you don’t, as long as you’re gonna seal it up quickly, just extending the entry away from the hole is enough. Hope that wasn’t too long winded…
Only because it might not be alone.
I’d consider a one-way door, over the spot they are coming in, if it didn’t just fly in the door that is..
INSIDE the garage? Is it finished (ie has a ceiling?) Looks like bat droppings to me, and I’ve seen A LOT. Tree frog droppings are usually larger than bats, ironically since they are much smaller, and they are almost never inside a structure, usually outside entries with lights. My guess would be, if it’s not finished, you have bats up there coming in after feeding for the night and doing their business before settling in to roost elsewhere in the garage roof. If it’s finished, I’d really need to see what it looks like. As far as toads go, I don’t get a lot of calls for those, but I would agree they should look similar to any other insect eater.
