I am prety sure that the “WarmWater” walleye guides James Holst and Dustin Stewart, would beg to differ that they are any “different” than you or any other “WarmWater” Specialist? Or that they Only provide a service for those that want to keep fish..”warmwater” guides are no different than your guiding that was a good one
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October 19, 2004 at 9:15 pm #324899
I/ve fished the streams out west,and they are NOTHING like these small streams in sothern minnnesota! they are much larger with more water and flow..which increses the habitat…which all combined, increases the number of “sustainable Lareger Trout” there is no way that The streams here are going to support as many “larger” fish as those streams can…you just cannot incress the size and flow of the streams here,you can “create” more habitat, but there are only going to be AN “x” amount of the larger fish that you hope for..just because of the more aggrsive behavoir of those fish,and the “avaliblity” of there “home “water.
October 15, 2004 at 11:52 pm #324541take the reel and spin in the forward poisition….STOP…try back…does it stop NOW!…? no then its not the new reels..The new reels Have “NO BACKWARD” motion…and I mean none
October 15, 2004 at 11:44 pm #324540Where I fish It seems that I do better With A plain hook/minnow combanation….It does’t seem to matter what I have down… more than the TIME of DAY….AND/OR the depth… The fish are at…I think thats more Important than what I have on …Because when they are “bitting” its a short window….But thats only trough the “ICE”….
October 15, 2004 at 10:18 pm #324530I suspect that he Know’s and /or feels the same way I do…that the “proposed restrictions” number 1.. will not help the creation of larger trout…( Tell me when there were larger trout to be caught in the small spring fed streams in southern Minnnesota)…these are Not the streams out west or even of the east….these streams have never really produced the larger trout the the western streams or the larger “eastern” mountain streams produce…WE just do not have the same habitat that those streams do and you just cannot “create it”…Number 2…I’ts not good for tourism…”I.E.” people come here to catch trout to eat or keep…Don’t fool yourself that the majority come to “learn” how to fish…thats just not human nature
If we cannot boast a “Ample” fishier for trout…to keep a limit of 5… then the small towns around these streams would suffer economic hard ships…I.E. Elba relies on the fisherman…to sustain the Bussiness…no trout…and thats trout to keep…no bussiness in elba.
I also think that any “reform” would instead start with the “land” Above the stream..the farming and chemicals that are applied. Before You start Impoving/modifyinf on a “strech”of stream I think you need to look at the whole picture and see whats going on “above it before working on “that” strech first.And I also think that if you wanted a “true” sense of what the “average” fisherman thinks then just hit the streams and ask…The meetings that are held are stock full of fisherman of one “club” or another…told what to say by one and then followed by the “masses” there is a reason “regular fisherman” do not attend those mettings and its because the “groups” overwelm them…Its easy to get a organized group together Try to get the average fisher dude together is a different matter
Hey don’t hate me..cause I’m right…Its just my Opion…on why this man did what “you” think he did
October 15, 2004 at 9:05 pm #324519dude, I’m a chef by trade and fried fish ….(unless a walleye or cod)…Just ..well SUCK! You have to try this recipe next time…You also need to lite up the bbq to do it..
Fresh (Stream caught) trout. (Crappie walleye sunny…ECT)
Fillete the fish..(or De-bone in the case you are lucky enough to have “fresh” trout)
Shake fillete in a bag full of:
1 cup flour
2 Tbls McCormics steak and chop rub
1 tsp ground pepper
Now make a tin foil boat and cut thin strips of butter and lay 2 pats per fish in the tin foil boat..lay the fish on top of the butter..cut a lemon and squeeze juice on top of fish…throw the rind on top of the fish..Now…and this is the secret ..take some saffron between your thumb and forefinger and “lightly” spread across the fish.
place the “BOAT” on the grill and stay there and watch it….3-4 min on one side and “flip” it…depends on the heat of the fire
Sometimes I throw some hickory chips in for a little smoky flavor..
Try this one and You’ll never Eatem fried again….Plus ..
the misses won’t have to scold you on the grease splatter’sSwany …..
October 15, 2004 at 8:23 pm #324504Exactley which part of me is “insane”…I thought I was “sane” and just kinda wondered what was wrong with the rest of the people ?
October 15, 2004 at 6:21 pm #1429641This may sound funny but induldge me… To operate in my curent location as a chef….I have to have a card from the federal goverement that states I have been through.. and passed a class on sanitation…protecting “you” from the evils
of…Well get it?…the kicker is that the state does “NOT” reconize it unless I turn in my test scores from the fed?….and pay another $25…thats in addition to the $115 it takes to have the test…Which you cannot pass unless you take the class that pre-pares you for the “test” at a cost of around $400.00 per aplicant…I’m I a better Restuarant because of this…YOU BET YOUR Can I charge more….no way…Everyone else is taking the test and you have to pass it to remain open….Go figure
October 8, 2004 at 10:04 pm #323660the family farm is on the down stream side of county 10..I’ve fished it since the early 80’s.back then we caught a few trout here and there,mostly brown’s,but most of the catch was shiners and really big carp, witch we keep for trapping season…but in the last 5/6 years I have seen a tremondus influx of trout….again mostly browns with a mix of rainbow’s…but the 2 seem to really preferentiate,differerent waters..so I have my rainbow “hole’s” and also know where the brown’s are. I had figuried that the regs put on that part of the north branch were responsible…but maybe its just the fishing pressure down below kicking up more fish..Also the size of the fish are bigger than befor…16 inch fish are not uncommon…and the occasional 20 incher has been on and lost/caught.We also catch a number of smaller browns..6/8 inch witch seems to lead one to think that the reproduction rate is respectible on that streach of stream…I don’t think I’ve ever eaten a trout over 14 inches…mainly because They are hard to come by…and really need to go back in the stream and also because a limint of 10/12 inch fit in the pan better…and Yea..I work at that Hy-Vee….those fish have never even seen “wild water”…When I’m board I go over with a old mop handle and some thread…tie on a small gold safty pin and put on a show for the crowd….
October 7, 2004 at 10:52 pm #323557Yes its true a high percentage of bait fisherman do not know how to really fish for trout..Yes there are enough streams to implement the proposed regs, its just that they are my favorites to fish.and YES store brought fish taste like … well you get the gist of it….I do eat 2/3 meals of fish per week…walleye, sunnys, crappies..but trout is a very short season..so I can only eat them april through sept…then they are safe for awhile…Hey D.A. What is the info one the north branch From the bridge in elba on up to Cnty 10?…there have been regs there for the past few years that encourage the release of most trout in hopes of creating a fisherie for lager trout?
October 6, 2004 at 8:12 pm #323444D.A. I can’t aruge the point that There is a higher mortality rate with “bait” vs. “artifical”…because I have to agree with you on that one.But I Am here to tell you NOT on my hooks…And Its the way you go about presenting the bait..and Thats were the problem on “mortality” comes in to play..If I find a nice hole to fish,sit down and bait up,throw it out and “prop” up my pole..I’m bound to hook a fish deep. but if I bait up “and hold my pole” and fish the rapids,deep holes or other fast water and strike on the first “Nibble” I hook the fish in the mouth…or miss the “bite” completly.Now it becomes a matter of “education” in bait fishing.
How about this one I use a old fly rod my brother gave me,and tape a ultra-lite spinning reel to it. I use a 1/64th ounce ant pattern or just a 1/64th ounce jig with some hair on it..AND tip it with a waxey…best of both Worlds..But what am I, fly fishing or bait fishing?
I do see your point on being able to catch Larger fish and using regs to help out with that,and YES they are proposed in “my” back yard and I do not like it.What I am saying is with the right Education/or Experence I can be just as effective with mortaliy rates as a flyfisherman can..I started out flyfishing, but because of past injuries cannot get my elbows to preform the necasary motions any more, and bait fish/spin so I can still fish.THATS why I fight for the bait fisherman.Also you cannot “stock” a freezer with trout. The limit is 5. Trout are best eaten “FRESH”.they do not freeze well as the flesh is very delicate.A family of 4 will consume 1.5 fish per meal.(you need more than one license per family for that)For smart “Heart” health the USDA (accually there is a branch for fish and seafood) suggest 2 meals of fish per week.And belive it or not Some of us DO NOT have the money to buy it at the store..(at there prices who does)not to mentioned the fact that supermarket fish is mostly farm raised and does not contain the same nutrients that a wild fish does.(YES even those Cement run rainbow’s offer a better nutrional meal than the farm raised supermarket fish)Don’t get me wrong here I”m not picking at you..just a voice for the “other” side
October 1, 2004 at 9:06 pm #323073One name buddy..”Brock Lesner”….more heart than Hoven…He really wants it…Who would “double” team Him?….Stonger and younger…plus he’d play for the “rookie minumum…..No kidding….
Bring On BROCK!!!!!!!!!!!October 1, 2004 at 8:48 pm #323070made the run over on sat eve…arriving at about 8am on sun..fished up the “east”…a bit using #13 jointed raps…landed 2 nice spawners but really didn’t seem to be as many fish up there yet..headed up to Kewanee harbor and caught a few coho’s and 2 more kings …all from shore..Seems the boats in the harbor out fished the shore dudes 5/1 later sunday night a boater pulled in around 10pm to spend the night and said the harbor was “full of Fish” just they were hanging 10 ft down……I made the adjustment Sunday am and Hit 3 nice runs real quick…Thanx for the Info “DUDE”…I really think I missed the “first” run by a few days and Really just need some RAIN to make them “go”…My next shot will be the 9/10 so I hope the rains will coperate…..
September 21, 2004 at 9:18 pm #321986Beautiful!!!! FISH..and couldn’t happen to a better American!!!!A “BIG” thanx to you and all your buddy’s for keeping me and my family safe…I have alot of admiration for you…I’ll be leaving sat nite for a quick run over…Gotta get in on the action…
…for you Isaac!
..For the fishing
September 14, 2004 at 11:29 pm #321123As we are gettin some really heavy rain here today….I can only hope you get some in the next couple of days…Sounds like they are ready to go….I’ll try and make plans tommorow…for later next week…Have to get the guy’s PUMPED!!!I’ll see if they want to charter….Thanx
SWANY
September 14, 2004 at 10:54 pm #321114Just Because you don’t “see” litter from fly fisherman…and only discared bait containers…doesn’t mean that the dead fish are from “bait fisherman” I’ve seen plenty of fly fisherman “Chunke” a worm in my time…not to mention the amount of “flies” …fly fisherman lose….”A LOT” that contain lead…..and just one last thing that strikes me here is …DO you Want the Regs for you…Or to increase your guiding Buissness…And What do you really bring to the local Buissnesses when you Provide A lunch?Snack? from home…?…you provide everything..What good is that for local buissness?….GAS?……really…It sounds as if What ever is good for me…Is good for me…..Thats the definition of a Purest…
September 10, 2004 at 11:49 pm #320622Just wondering How the bite is over there? I usually fish by Algoma in the fall. But last year I fished in two rivers..during the fall run..the west twin I think and had the best time of my life…Are they stageing out in front of the harbor yet?…I’m land locked without a boat but enjoy the pier..even chartered out once last year …THAT WAS A BLAST!!!!!..I would like to fish the area again…but not sure when to use my few valiuble vac days….any help?
September 10, 2004 at 11:09 pm #320620I’ve fished Carlos quite a bit, always had luck down by the state park, there is a trough that runs parelle to the shore line and the walleyes like to hang in there, but early in the morining seems to be the best. for evening fishing I’ve ALWAYS fished the oppiste end….there is a sand bar right off a point…with a nice house…Kitty corner to the la Homme Deau cross under..(Large sand flat that drops to the deepest part of the lake)..(161ft) I’ve nailed a couple of 28/30 inch walleye where the current comes through from lake Darling….Only it’s night fishing…2/3 in the morning….It’s a very…very clear lake ..early morning ..and late nite is best…let me know if I can help any more…P.S. get a map!!!!!! And I can give better location
Swany
\April 20, 2003 at 12:27 am #264637
“From the mouths of babes…….” Oh yeah , that was before you were born.
jake you my friend have some really big gonnads…always stirring up trouble….
April 19, 2003 at 11:52 pm #264632my last post on this…ok…ok….my point was the “opener” or lack there of because of the “early season” catch and release….thats it…..there is no “early season” for any other opener….specificly the inland lakes walleye/northern/bass.(in some areas)….do I belive the mortality is less in the “early season” yes I do …but the number of people fishing then..Vs, the number of people on the “opener”..diretly corolates with the mortality rate..more fisher people….more mortality….as for the selected “groups” 85% of the people fishing the early season belong to one trout group or another…Abiet…spin or fly fishing….and last but not least…I’m in my early 40’s also and cannot ever remeber a “opener” in may…..use to be march…but I’ll have to some digging to confrim that… …..anyway the season is “open” so enjoy….and please..!!! remeber…keep what you can eat…FRESH!!!! and the fish you let go today….is some kids “trophy” tommrow
Tight lines all
SWANY….
April 19, 2003 at 2:20 am #264578I really!! like the response to the pursist..thankyou..and don’t become one of them…for bigg trout it’s hard to knock a larger rapala….size dependent on the stream fished…but the last few years ..I’ve downsized to a very small hook..bb..or smaller sized sinker…and…a ..single …wax worm…fished in the right locations …with the right presentation….ie..hitting the feeding lanes when there active ..IS JUST DEADLY……and really fun …as you can see the “take” and the fight is unbelivable on that light of tackle…..
April 19, 2003 at 1:49 am #264573this years spawn will be a “bust”..It goes in cycles…the bigger concern would be the “crash” of avalible forage…It happens…and it will happen….then the “pressure” on the pool will decline …as the population Decresses….2 1/2 years to 16 inches…and next year is bad for spawing…then….2 years from now….and with decling forage …the pressure will be off the pool…..
April 19, 2003 at 1:24 am #264570give me a day or two to scan some in…and my kid can help me figure out how to post them…….some beautiful trout and an X-lent weekend to be camping at Whitewater…
April 19, 2003 at 1:11 am #264568my point was “the Opener” with catch and release starting up on April 1st(and earler on some streams)..It distracts from the opener I grew up with(and been moved many times to a later date) I remember when the opener was march 15th…then april 1st…and now around the 12th…all dates moved back as the DNR gained knowlede of the procreation of trout and when they spawned…”Protection” of the species….we only have the winter catch and release because certain groups that were organized enough to lobby …and fund….get there way over the “general” public…right or wrong I think it adds to the mortality of the trout…for the pleasure of a few fisherpeople belonging to the “Selected” groups”…
My opionion.only…
SWANY
April 10, 2003 at 2:05 am #263726Spent the winter fishing salt water…….Panama…got 1 sailfish that went 225…and a tuna that went…240# can we all say “sushi”…never even drilled a “hole” this year …with the wacky weather….and I “will” BE CAMPING OUT AT WHITEWATER FOR THE OPENER….just got the jeep loaded up…stop down if ya’ll want…I’ll be in the campgrounds…
April 10, 2003 at 1:53 am #263724I for 1 do not mind fishing the “opener” not to many years ago It was “the opener” You didn’t have that goddam catch and release season….”before ” the opener….Its the only ..”pre-opener” for any fish species..#2…I also agree if you want to “have ” the stream to yoursef….walk a few miles….I ..like to camp….and fish the areas around camp…..alot of people fish them…..But not as good as me?…….And I prove it year in and year out….Its….not “where you fish”…..”But How you Fishem”..
April 7, 2003 at 10:52 pm #263472the lake is completely open now….(so my friend on postiers point says) as for crappies….I’ve Always found the 2 weeks before the inland lake opener for walleye/ northen pike to be the best for shallow water bite…give or take according to the weather…..3 years ago I landed a pike that went 46 1/2 inches 2 days before the opener…fishing for crappies in a back bay area!!!!!
April 7, 2003 at 10:36 pm #263469yep!!!! gotta be James….18-20 years old……and nice pants to boot!!!!
April 6, 2003 at 12:05 am #263303Last year at this time I fished the Dike road between wabasha and nelson…..got into some REALLY Large pearch….biggest ones going 13 1/2 inches…..but don’t know about this year yet…..Although the trout opener is coming up next weekend …I always camp down at white water and make an excursion down that way..I’ll let ya know…..