i’ve used them for years 4 channels and used differant ones but never had much luck on them,except 4 one type.i don’t have anymore of it and can’t convince myself to drive 4 3 hours to get somemore .you can only get it down around rock falls,dixion area{illinois}that i no of.i used it down there and it worked and i used it here and they loved it.i sure do wish i had a tub of it. it’s called TJ’S dip bait,ever heard of it?