I would look into buying lightly used LVS32 (get the single cord version) with an EchoMap93UHD (Scheels has a 93UHD2/LVS32 shuttle bundle for $1,800 brand new), that setup can get down to around 18 lbs and run all day on a 20AH battery. you should be able to find really good deals with all of the folks who just upgraded during the black Friday sales…

This gets you to about 80% of what the top of the line LVS34 FFS setups can deliver for a fraction of the price…if it turns out you like using FFS and want to upgrade, then you’ll be ready for when Garmin/Lowrance release their 2.0 versions in the future and you won’t take that big of hit when upgrading like the LVS34 owners will… or maybe you’ll be happy with the LVS 32 and just keep it…

if you end up not liking FFS, then you should be able to sell it for decent price to somebody else looking to get into the FFS game…

Well, its 2 points and stopped a losing streak, but I don’t think the players will gain much confidence going down to the wire against Chicago at home…

Loved Hartman cheating on defense to try and get the jump on an empty net attempt and then diving back into the crease resulting in the puck going right to the Hawks player who scored… his season sofar in a nutshell…

Lets hope Ek coming back fixes the other lines too

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Serial douchebag Matt Rempe gets off easy again, after completing the Douchebag Hat Trick late hit, from behind, with an elbow to the neck smashing Miro Heiskanen’s face into the glass. Only 8 game suspension? DOPS, like WTF?

i’ve seen worse get less…

Sounds like Gusbus in net tonight and Trenin back as well. I bet Ek could have played but they are keeping him out until Dallas game just as a precaution and the extra 4 days of rest.

gim wrote:

Sure hope there are some serious conversations about Darnold returning next season.

they’ll franchise tag him for next season, guaranteed…

Damn, what a sack by Gink! Beats a 2-1

Dallas Turner has figured some things out the past few games, look out!

Jesper must be thinking why he always gets called up to play when the team is a slumping gongshow…

Jesus… when Kirill is guilty of a lazy backcheck that directly leads to a goal you know were #%€$ed…

Making this game worse is listening to Walz banter on and on…

Cough…cough…Faceoff…cough

What a f’ing lazy stupid penalty by Merrill… Heinz needs to have some type of punishment for laziness like that…

and the Merrill only gets 6 seconds to think about it in the box before they score…

Pat K wrote:

Just a little better, but only $100 million is guaranteed.
There won’t be any low salary cap hit honeymoon for Atlanta with the young Pennix at QB

that’s the funny part, Pennix is probably older than half the starting QB’s in the league…

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Another PK fail with yet ANOTHER goal surrendered less than 20 seconds into the kill. Could the PK suck any worse?

It was almost 2 PP goals surrendered in less than 5 seconds after clean lost face-offs, thankfully the McBain goal was overturned for goalie interference… The coaches at least tried different player combo’s on the PK vs rolling the same groups out, it worked on the first 2 PK’s, no so much on the rest of them…

lindyrig79 wrote:

Losing to Utah at home and doing nothing with our PP chances not good. Here comes the standings free fall.

i think they’ll right the ship after the holiday break…

Wild had their chances last night (4 pipes hit) but when things are in the dumps, that’s how it seems to go…. There is some sunshine over the horizon, Ek and Gusbus sound like they are back soon (likely for the Dallas game)

Tough game today, the way our offense has been playing (outside of the 1st line) Wallstedt is going to need to steal one….

CaptainMusky wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>basseyes wrote:</div>
Glad centers aren’t important.

Don’t fall into Joes trap…

Did you not watch the game tonight?

Cough cough faceoffs cough….

Danila Yurov with 2 goals today in the KHL

Faber is back tonight (what a f’ing warrior!)

Freddy centering Jojo and Boldy, Gus is close to getting back but Flower playing tonight…

No Way! Zeev Buium made Team USA for the WJC tourney, is he good or something? He’ll likely be named a captain as well…

Aron Kiviharju was named the youngest captain ever for Team Finland, Kumpelianen made the team as well…

go read my posts, I specifically pointed out the last 5-6 games they played teams with Faceoff studs, when we face those teams our faceoff deficiencies stand out alot more… The Florida game was a perfect example, if you didn’t leave that game saying “holy $hit do we ever need to get better at faceoffs” then you didn’t watch the game…We lost pretty much every faceoff on special teams, Barkov owned the dot…

The next 4 games will be telling from a confidence perspective imo…do they go 2-2, 1-3 or a disastrous 0-4 or do they actually start beating the better teams…

Last night’s loss kept with the theme that they can’t beat the good teams other than the odd win every now & then… they play the Jets and Stars 2 of their next 4 games and the pesky Utah team tomorrow that haven’t lost in 6 games, we’ll see if it continues…Yes, they’ve had lots of injuries to key players lately, but they struggled against the better teams when they were healthy too…

The game earlier this season when we beat Florida handedly they were without Barkov and Thachuk just came back from missing a week…Bobrovsky was obviously off his game as well…

We need to start beating the good teams!

CaptainMusky wrote:

I think we need to get into the analytics on where these faceoffs are. O zone, neutral, D zone? Strong side, weak side? After an icing and a long shift? Not all faceoffs are equal so it would really be important to get down to the bottom of this now that we moved on from the goalie mask padding.

If its an important situation (PP/PK/end of game) would you rather have a 49% or a 55+% center taking the draw? In the last 5 or 6 games we played against teams that can put out a 55%+ center take them… Last night Barkov (63% on the season) went 12/16 for 75% on draws!, he won most of the PP & PK faceoffs taken all game. The good faceoff teams can put out a guy who typically has a big advantage over our Wild centers…that’s all…

Ripjiggen wrote:

The good faceoff teams have guys in the 55-60%+ range, Wild have a ways to go….

Guys? Austin Mathew’s is 25th in the league at 55 percent. So there are 25 actual centers in the entire league with 55-60 percent. That’s not even 1 per team.

Anything over 50 is solid.

Where do you get that take? I’m not saying every team in the league is good at faceoffs, i’m saying the good faceoff teams have one, sometimes several centers at 55%+ they can put out when a faceoff win is needed…we just faced several in a row and got worked over…our 4 centers are at 46-48-49-49%, that simply needs to improve…

Faceoffs (IDO’s favorite topic) have been an issue in this recent losing stretch of games…Oilers, Kings, Flyers, Vegas and Panthers all have some of the best NHL Faceoff guys in Draisaitl, Barkov, Couteirier, Karlsson and Kopitar. I’m not saying it was the only factor, but it was noticeable in those games, especially special teams where we couldn’t win a faceoff to save our lives in either zone. (several PP goals we gave up were from clean faceoff wins and 2 seconds later the puck was in the net)

For those who say, but we don’t have Ek, Ek, Rossi and Gaudreau are about the same this season at 48-49% (Ek has only taken 65 more faceoffs than Rossi, 83 more than Freddy)

The good faceoff teams have guys in the 55-60%+ range, Wild have a ways to go….

Russo updated that Faber is likely ok, he indeed took the puck to the throat and did go to the hospital last night last night to get checked out…

Wild fans need a laugh after last night’s beat down and possibly losing Faber for awhile… this picture made me laugh…

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AK Guy wrote:

Agreed, Joe, about Hartman’s laziness last night. He stood out for the wrong reasons.

I’d say Boldy was worse… he’s had a string of bad games in a row now…

Hartman has been bad for pretty much the entire season…

Starting to see alot of laziness by the Wild players on the ice… Boldy doing whatever he was doing on the first Ekblad goal, Merril for some reason giving all the room in the world for Samiskevich to shoot (he friggin picked that corner clean) Hartman with just lazy defense on Barkov for the 3rd goal (thankfully it was ruled offsides) Hartman with another lazy effort on Thachuk’s goal, PK was awful on the 4th goal (Boldy’s lazy slashing penalty), Boldy was lazy with his D coverage yet again on the 5th goal, 1 Panther with all 5 Wild players around him scores after Faber gets hit…

Wild players sleeping on their D coverage and losing pretty much every battle for the puck, that’s not due to having guys out hurt, that’s just laziness by the players themselves….

No practice or media availability today so unless Russo or Smith call him and ask we won’t know until Friday…

I think its probably a broken/shattered jaw, he wasn’t spitting up teeth or blood so there’s that, if it was his throat they likely would have taken him to the hospital and the media would know about that…

The amount of injuries to key players is sadly comical, friggin put Kirill in bubblewrap

https://x.com/joesmithnhl/status/1869629436150317489?s=46&t=uoRWUp28rKzoSODmtmr3Lw

I’ll watch the final season of 190x something (the one with Harrison Ford) just because I want to see the Spencer character open a can of whoopa$$ when he arrives, then i’m done…