buckybadger,

Your naivety is only exceeded by your apparent ignorance.

1hl&sinker wrote

Never happen here right? The framers of the constitution fortunately for us and you, knew better. I don’t think you’ll ever get the true concept of laws and constitution and the relationship of the two. Hook, line and sinker. Wowzer

1hl&sinker wrote:
Do I think they should be allowed to barge in for no reason? No, but that doesn’t mean I would be upset if they could.

So you would not be upset if the police could barge into your house and you asked why they are doing this and they reply: “Well As you must have heard by now sir the 4th amendment to the constitution has been eliminated and we now have the right to search any dwelling, person, place or thing if and when we want to. Just a routine check sir and we’ll be outa here shortly after we search for anything illegal you might be doing. If you have nothing to hide you shouldn’t care, right?

This is what you would not be upset with? Your Papers Please!

Tom said
“Drunks, drugs and phones….take them all off the roadways. And make it hurt big time from the get go.”

Totally agree. As long as I don’t have to give up my freedom to travel as a law abiding citizen and not be harassed by unconstitutional government warrant-less intrusion I’m fine with what you suggest.

It’s really is our duty to exercise the rights we have left because if we don’t we will surely lose them. Don’t you agree it would not be good thing to provide the police with the power to stop you, at a whim, and say “Papers Please.” Maybe you do agree with that. I would hope not.

“Glenn57
Heck, I thought it was foolish when they no longer allowed these road check points.”

I guess by road check points you are referring to DUI road blocks. The reason Minnesota doesn’t have them any more is the Minnesota supreme court ruled these stops were unconstitutional on the state level. Lucky us Minnesotans. Nine other states have outlawed them too: Idaho, Iowa, Michigan, Oregon, Rhode Island, Texas, Washington, Wisconsin, and Wyoming. Read the 4th amendment to the federal constitution to find out why they should be disallowed on the federal level too.

Statistics do not prove these stops are beneficial. All they do is urine off the majority of the people and they violate the 4th amendment. More DUI arrests are the result of patrolling the roads. They are expensive too. You have an average of 15 cops manning these things standing around mostly doing nothing. They could be out patrolling.

glenn57 wrote:

that I’d absolutely NOT a ridiculous question. Chances are those same people that deny access would be the first ones screaming if they needed assistance and they weren’t there to help.

It’s their job to be there to help if required or asked but it’s NOT their job to deny our rights and shred our constitution protection in the process.

Right on Huntindave!