Thanks Michael. Sounds like I’m doing the right thing. I spent the third week of October trolling the 10 foot ledges along shorelines and islands, bumping bottom at points and humps. The water temperature was 56 deg, which is right when lake turnover happens. I guess water temperatures trump full moon, which is why I picked that week to go fishing. I got one the first day on a big boulder field in 5 feet of water, and another one the last day in a neck down current area coming out of a big bay in 15 feet of water. I also tried deeper areas, especially in neck down current areas. It was a very slow October compared to the last ten years, due to the weird water temperatures I guess. I see from Justin’s posts that they got some big ones after the snow storm last week. It’s hard to have confidence in a system when the fish are not where you think they should be, so thanks for the advice. Next year!