Joe,

You’ll need:
6awg wire
60 amp fuse
plug also rated for 60 amps

If you already have all that you should be able to keep everything the same.
If you currently have the four prong plug in I’d replace that. They are rated for 50 amps. Replace it with this.

Sharon,

I can only comment on the non metallic reloading so here is the breakdown for those items.

Hulls if they are AA hulls go for 5 cents a piece.
Federal hulls go for somewhere between 3-5 cents a piece.

Mec reloader I would say somewhere between 75-100. It is not a progressive reloader and has a smaller market because of that. brand new single stage mecs are going for 235.

Charge bars should be 15-20 a piece

Wads – I would ask for $8-10 per full bag.
Powder bushings $5-7 a piece

Mec supersizer can go from somewhere between $25-75.

Shot you can ask for $35 a bag. New shot is going for $60 per bag.

The powder is a harder sell. If unopened you can ask 80% of retail and it will be gone quickly. If it’s opened many will not buy it. It’s a safety thing. Buyers have to believe that what is in the bottles are actually correct or risk blowing up their guns.

Shot shell boxes are worthless. They can be grabbed in bulk from the trap line for free. Give them away with the purchase.

Primers – we cannot get Winchester shotshell primers at the moment so they will bring a premium. I would ask for $80 per thousand right now.

Rough estimate for the shotshell items – $900 not including powder.

I would sell the shotshell and metallic items separate. It should help the sale go faster.

The name of the game is penetration depth not speed.
Nickel plated shot penetrates further than lead and copper plated shot.
Yes, prairie storm shells contain 30% nickel plated shot.

On top of that testing done did find that 1500 fps loads produced a lower pattern percentage in a 30″ circle at 30 and 40 yards compared to lower velocity loads (1220 and 1350 fps).

1 1/4oz #5 and 1220 fps is still the overall winner in terms of pattern percentage vs penetration power for pheasants. This is for 12 ga. of course.

Joe,

I do not believe there is a screen you can add just for battery level.
The voltage should be displayed on all sonar screens though in a corner of your choosing. Default corner is top left. If it is not there you can select it to display through the settings. Not sure the exact steps on that as I do not have my echomap infront of me.

Joe, I do not see the 010-01893-20 on Garmin’s website but it’s certainly sold by others. That leads me to believe the -20 likely has the older map (LakeVu HD) version on the unit. I did not see any of -20’s advertise the unit having the G3 maps.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I’m really considering Panoptix to quickly get on fish the few times i’m able to get on the ice. I can’t find this info online, so can any owners help me with the following questions?

1) 20x18x12in, pulled that from Garmin’s website. From what I have seen with the large bag this should be accurate.
2) You would be cutting it close if you had to run your screen brightness above 50%. I would go with at least a 12ah. For reference the draw is about 1ah at 50% with all the nonessentials (GPS, WIFI) turned off. With screen brightness at 100% the draw is about 1.8ah with nonessentails turned off. This is for a 7inch echomap plus unit. I have heard its not much more with a 9 inch unit,.2 to .3ah difference.
3) No issues with this for me. I do stay current with updates though.
4) The last time panoptix specifically was called out in a software release was 8.3 (we are on version 11.2 now). That being said Livescope did not have a specific update either since then until this last release. Personally, I do not believe there is much to fix or change with panoptix right now hence the appearance of lacking support.
5) I thought it was just shy of 18 with the provided battery? Battery weighs about 9 pounds I believe.

biggill had a great thread on this one a few years ago: Thread

Hopefully he chimes in here and to let us know which mattress he went with as I am also interested in the purple mattress he was looking at.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

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These have a far better pattern than anything you will get in 3″ shells.

Interesting.. do you know why that is? Is that in general or specific to an O/U?

We only shoot O/U’s so I cannot comment on auto-loaders but I suspect they would have similar results.

Not sure why it is the case but the pattern boards do not lie.

gimruis wrote:

I prefer Prairie Storm or Wing Shok by Federal. They both have an extremely high velocity of 1500 fps. Its the fastest one I know of – Fiocci Golden Pheasant loads aren’t that fast.

Prairie storm 3″ 1 1/4oz run 1300 fps for lead.
Wing Shok 2 3/4″ 1 1/8oz run 1175 fps for lead.

If you are shooting an O/U pick up some 2 3/4″ 1oz. super pheasants from winchester or you can get the fiocchi golden pheasants in 2 3/4″ 1oz nickel plated.
These have a far better pattern than anything you will get in 3″ shells.

You don’t need a hot rod load to down birds.

The G3 maps are garmin+navionics mapping.
Lawsuit was involving their sonar and yes they won. Units now come with the gt transducer instead of the CV.

Panoptix is fantastic but has its limitations as all pieces of tech do.
Target separation in down view is as good as my LX-6 so no issues there.
Is it necessary? Of course not but it is extremely valuable in minimizing the learning curve on new lakes especially in the winter where movement is not always as easy.

What it is not good at..
Finding walleyes or bottom hugging fish in forward view. It can be done and becomes easier in deep water but it is still not great.

If you are a primary walleye guy livescope seems to be the best option as it is easier to see bottom movement but it does come with draw backs for hard water fishing as the unit likes power. Most guys get around this by running two 10ah lithium batteries or one 20ah. If you run the 20ah you have to modify your carry case slightly to hold the battery in.

If you have more questions on panoptix feel free to ask and I will answer as many as I can.

popcorn…to answer as simply as I can:
Active captain maps will be on your phone/tablet and not on your head unit.

I would recommend getting the echomap plus.
The features and additional options to add onto the unit are well worth the investment.

Sharon wrote:

Thanks for the reminder, Denny! Behold… Billy’s mouth-watering venison stroganoff leftovers.

Sharon, would you be willing to share the recipe?
I tried to make this not too long ago and it did not turn out as I expected.
Hoping I just missed something easy.

Biggill…been there. It’s a long dead end road.

Already got approval to update other gear so I’m trying to stay in good graces in hopes to sneak a few pieces in!

Thanks for the suggestion tangler. Didn’t know that existed!

I wish it didn’t have to go but the FW says I don’t need three. I disagreed…and lost

$250

I can take more pictures for interested buyers.
Also, I’m located in Eden Prairie

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mojogunter wrote:

With a ps30 panoptix transducer I can see each downrigger ball. I think if it is aimed back a bit, and you don’t run too much line behind the ball you should be able to see both cranks. It amazes me how many fish come up to look at the ball.

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Livescope or panoptix is never going to show you your cranks if you are long line trolling and they would likely struggle to see them if your running lead core.
The problem is they are just too far away. The distance you can see horizontally is dependent upon the vertical depth.

If your running down riggers I see no reason why you wouldn’t be able to see your cranks but the settings would have to be just right. Also you will likely only be able to see one at a time.

200ft with livescope is a far stretch. More like 150 max, I’ve heard some say 120.

Sorry for the confusion mojo…I was talking specifically livescope there.
I do agree, no issue seeing both with the PS30 but may take some fine tuning to see the cranks clearly consistently.

I would guess that you could download the lake vu maps but I would call Garmin support and they will be able to confirm or deny that.

Livescope or panoptix is never going to show you your cranks if you are long line trolling and they would likely struggle to see them if your running lead core.
The problem is they are just too far away. The distance you can see horizontally is dependent upon the vertical depth.

If your running down riggers I see no reason why you wouldn’t be able to see your cranks but the settings would have to be just right. Also you will likely only be able to see one at a time.

200ft with livescope is a far stretch. More like 150 max, I’ve heard some say 120.

Shane McGinty wrote:

Found video about panoptix for great lakes anglers put out by Jason from in depth outdoors. No mention of name of transducer on the back of the boat.

Now that Livescope has come out, how can this be beneficial for great lakes trollers?

Would LVS 32 transducer be mounted on transom?

The livescope transducer is intended to be mounted onto a trolling motor.
A lot of guys are mounting it on a DYI pole system.
The video you are referring to, their ducer is likely the PS30 or PS31. That transducer can get mounted on the transom but it only does downview.

Here is what we eat on our multi-day hiking adventures:

MRE’s …great food but expensive
MAC and Cheese …you do not need milk or butter
Stuffing.
Idaho Instant mash potatoes … these are very very good in certain flavors
Smoked meat…take your pick and add to stuffing/potatoes
Oatmeal
Tea
Coffee w/ hot cocoa…makes a Mocha
Assorted snacks that have protein

Of course you do not need all of this for a simple meal on the ice but all the options can easily be made in/with a jetboil…we just run an MSR pocket-rocket with a stainless bowl on our trips. My favorites are easily smoked meat with potatoes.

Also, thanks for the reminder that I can just bring my cook-set for meals on the ice!

Dao, I will agree with you to an extent. I have found the feel with the fusion is a similar feel as my commander rod when fishing walleye. If I could buy the fusion again I would get it with a split grip. I think that would solve a lot of the “feel” issues.
I will say that when fish are in a positive bite the fusion does great. When they are negative to neutral I only fish the bullwhip and PN.

jumpingeorge wrote:

thanks for the input fellas, much appreciated. jaimep- since you own both, do you prefer the garmin or the lx6?

Lx-6 doesn’t come out of the sled unless the wife is with.

Buzz wrote:

Anyone know how much power is needed to run a 7inch Garmin with. Panoptix transducer? 12 volt battery but how big? Amps?

Buzz, I recommend running a 10AH Lithium battery if you can. Panoptix will not functions below 10.0V so you will get less time out of a SLA.

Reported run times on the dakota batteries has been 10-11 hours with screen brightness at 50%.

I mounted my panoptix and head unit on a lithium shuttle. I have not been able to fish long enough to have it go dead. Based on real world results the Lithium shuttle will get you at least 12 hours.

I own a echomap plus 73cv and I run a GT-10 ice transducer. I do not see any lag when running the flasher screen.

I have also run it next to my LX-6 and a FL-18 with no issues.
If you want to see it in action I am located in the twin cities area.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

Curious what you get for battery life when using a Echomap+ 7 or 9 inch units? What battery are you running? Would a single Dakota Lithium be enough or would you have to run 2 in tandem?

Would be nice to get the following info for a good comparison:
Echomap+ 7:
1) Garmin Battery runtime = about 7 hours
2) Single Dakota Lithium Battery runtime = 10-11 hours
3) Tandem Dakota Lithium Batteries runtime = in theory double. The only individuals that are running duals are the livescope guys

Echomap 9SV:
1) Garmin Battery runtime =
2) Single Dakota Lithium Battery runtime = ?
3) Tandem Dakota Lithium Batteries runtime = ?
– these numbers do not vary by much. the difference between the 7 and 9 while running the same settings is around .1-.2aH

I am running a 7 plus unit on a shuttle and I have found 12 hours of run time is very doable. I fished outside last weekend for 7 hours…screen brightness at 60%. Left the lake with a 62% reading on the shuttle. Those who are running one dakota are reporting right around 10 hours of run time.

There is a very big consensus to get rid of the SLA that comes with the bundle as it is garbage in colder weather and is extremely heavy.

If you want a ton of information on this I recommend joining the garmin panoptix ice fishing facebook page. This topic is discussed often and at length.

^^

I am running the same rods with siennas. Fantastic setups

Doc, I was in the same boat and I went with the PN. The PN is now my dedicated rod for anything up to 1/16 oz. The bullwhip handles 1/16-1/8oz spoons/jigs for me.
I did this because I fish a lot of small jigs for panfish and I was not happy with the bullwhips performance at 1/32oz. The PN really shines on those small jigs. If you do not fish a lot of small jigs I recommend another BW.