I put my airwaves in my new WX2190. All I can say is wow! They are the best. I have rode in the smooth moves and never will again. I run Erie, and they have taken the chop out of it for me. Nursed a sore back all winter from golf of all things. I am not sponsored by them in any way, they are worth the money.
What do you guys do about the straps rubbing the sides of the boat? I try to pull them as tight as I can. Not sure what you mean by twisting the straps? I cut the straps off of my cover in the front, because of the rubbing on the sides of my 2016 WX2060. I had to really tighten up on the ratchet strap, and still used the strap to the fender. Worked pretty good, but did better at 75mph with front straps still on. I picked up a 2018 WX2190 and that cover appears to fit better to the boat, than cover on 2060. Still concerned about the front straps. Curious as to modifications mentioned.
Leave it in! Way more comfortable when trolling all day. Just wash your Crawlers and put them on ice water the night before. You will be shocked at how lively and plump they get, and best of all no dirt! Get a 5 gallon bucket, a styrofoam bait bucket designed for the 5 gal. bucket. Pull worms from there packing and put them in a several inches of water, swirl them. Then put 3-4″ of water in bait bucket, put clean crawlers in water, then take an 8lb bag of ice and put in bait bucket. Put bait buck in 5 gal bucket with a lid. I get one of those Plano tackle box lids designed for 5 gal bucket, holds my blades, weights. I have had 12 dozen in there for several days, pour out water and add ice as needed. When the crawler bit is on, you need big clean crawlers.
She has the 20″ sws2 on the back of her. I don’t even know what the rpms where. I just hit full throttle for a very short time, saw the 52 on the GPS and got out of it, it did feel like it was still accelerating. I have seen some reports of as fast as 58mph, but that seems to be on slightly older hulls. I primarily fish the great lakes, Erie-St.Clair (99%), so top end is not my primary concern. I will be happy with 52-54mph. 4 guys was a touch tight in the WX2060, I am thinking 4 easy, maybe 5 guys. I do some guiding and that will help with some of my trips.
Looks like the weather should start to straighten out for us after this weekend, we canceled Walleye camp this weekend. You may have timed it perfectly. The females we are seeing, the eggs are still real tight, not all loose like they are ready to spawn. The jiggers don’t seem to be hammering like they should. Weird year so far. They may hit the reefs and blow and go. We had that a couple of years ago, seemed like they all spawned in about 2 days. That is what I love about Walleye fishing, just when you think you got figured out, you actually understand just how much you have to learn. Good luck next week.
Thanks guys for all the response. She sure is a bute. She is in my pole barn all torn apart waiting on the rest of the Cisco equipment, Kate told me today it was going out. Now to get it put back together, and the wind to calm down a bit. Time for some blood on the deck.
I just traded my 2016 WX2060 for a 2018 WX2190. Wow, big difference in the room aboard the 2190. It is a freaking battleship. Got to run it for about 45 minute on a glass flat Lake Erie. I have less than 2 hours on the F300, she is no where near broke in. But she got up to 52mph with out breaking a sweat. I also noticed the boat wanting to pull the right, but mine did this when I got the motor up a little high with the jackplate. 1st boat with a jackplate, so another learning curve. I looked at the Warrior 208, while it is a nice boat, it was the same size as my 2060 was, and seemed to have a bigger bow area. I have heard great things about the Warriors, but my are they proud of them. I am glad I made the move to the WX2190, now to get all of my gear in so I can finish rigging it, and get out and enjoy it.
Get a medium bristle deck brush, there are some products out there specifically for cleaning your deck. Clorox works well too. spray it on let it sit for a few minutes, then brush the heck out of it and should clean up nicely.
Tim Tabs? Why do you say that? And what size do you recommend? I have had a couple of Contender center consoles that have had tabs. But they also had 24.5 degree dead rise as well, and the weight seemed to be further aft than in a typical walleye boat. I always wanted to keep the nose down when running into them. I have about 45 minutes seat time in my 2190 on flat water, so I am now really curious about this.
I picked up a set of Airwaves. They are rated to 400lbs (I hope I never get to the point I have to worry about it), but I am a pretty good sized guy. Going to install them as soon as my 5200 shows up. I will put up a report after I give them a go.
Thanks a lot Dean. Does dropping the motor deep, help bring the bow up? Also, this boat does not have a separate water pressure gauge. Is that something I should add? I haven’t looked to see if my gauges have a gauge, seems to me it does. Also, I have seen that several of the guys running the 2190 w/jp move the motor from the 3rd hole down to the top hole. What does that do? Does it give more range? Or is it something else? Man, I am getting it rigged, and ready to hit the big pond with it!
I run the Bravo 1 on mine. I can only get 5800rpm out of it. I have the motor up in the 3 rd hole if I remember right. It runs 54mph, has good whole shot, and handles well. I think it needs to get a little higher in the water column to really preform. This is definitely the prop, if you have the jackplate. I had the SWSII in the 19″ pitch to start with. It is a definite improvement from that.
Dean,
Thanks for research you did. You are probably right about driving the boat, problem is the CFO knows that when I go for that boat ride it normally means time to dig out credit information! She keeps a little bracelet on me with a cord on it when I get around new boats. lol We have very hard water here, so she is safe for a little while…
Getting in late on the conversation. I fish primarily Lake Erie and Lake St. Clair. I have seen my share of true 5′ waves. I run a WX2060 and in my opinion, it is the best running boat in the 20′ class. The 2190 is faster and rides better in 3′ waves, size does matter. But when you get to true 4′ waves and bigger, unless you are running in troughs, there is no way you “can run close to wide open throttle”. It takes a big boat and lots of power to do that. If you can afford the 2190 go for it. It is a WX2060 on steroids. I fish 4 guys regularly out of mine, no complaints. I did pick up a couple of marine bean bag chairs, put em right behind the front seats to get all the weight out of the back and made all the difference in the performance of the boat.
I know I am getting late on this conversation, but I looked at the 1910 when i bought my 2060. Didn’t do any measuring, but looks to be a tremdous amount more room in the cockpit. In fact the 2060 in my opinion has the biggest cockpit of all the 20′ class boats out there. Good luck in making your decision.
Depends on where you fish, as to the need for a stabalizer. I fish the great lakes and wouldn’t dream of not having a stabalizer. That head will bounce big time with out a stabalizer. As far as defeating the purpose, the Cisco stablizer is slick, once it is set up, all it takes is a simple twist to unlock the stablizer and the motor is unlocked and ready for deployment. It is up to you, but if you fish any kind of big water, get the stabalizer and be safe.
Take a look at what Cisco offers for a troll motor stablizer. It is adjustable for height and takes just a simple twist and you are ready for deployment. You are really going to like the Ulterra. No more going up front in 3′ waves to pull in the Terrova.
Hey guys, just wanted to give an update. I have settled on the Bravo FS1 20″ with the plugs in, and I have the motor set in the 3rd from the top. Hole shot feels good, better than the SWS 2 19.is My top speed is 56 mph @5800rpm. It climbs waves and does a nice job of being able to run on plane at lower speed, this is important when running with, and troughing waves. I have decided that this Hull does not like much trim at slower speeds. Just the way the boat is designed. After testing other props, I have also decided that the SWS 2, is a good prop, but I think that an 18P would have worked better on my rig. Thanks for your help. Now it is time to catch some slob Walleyes!
Well, I finally got to test the Bravo 1 FS in the 20p. I was by myself, so I don’t have any 0-plane numbers, but it felt better than SWS 2 19p. Also, I felt it help with the low speed handling. Top speed was a pleasent surprize. 5800 rpms and 56.5mph on the GPS. I take off for Lake Saint Clair, for 3 days of Smallmouth fishing. I will have two guys with me and cooler full of ice, food, and waters. Should be a good test for the prop. I am looking forward to getting back to Erie and running the prop out there. But based on short amount of time yesterday on the lake, I am very pleased.
I have a loner prop from a buddy, so I thought I would try it out. can’t hurt anything.
Jim,
I am trying a rev 4 this weekend, I think it is a 21p though. I have a Bravo 1 FS in a 20p ordered, but won’t be in until the middle of the month. I will let you know how that one goes.
WB,
That looks like what I was dealing with. I feel that it helped my issue raising the motor a hole. I sent you a pm last night.
Instead of specific lakes, we would all like to you fish our local spots to help us understand them better, get into the whys of why the fish our there? ie. how fish relate to current in streams, rivers, and lakes. Get into understanding electronics and what they are telling you. Get the guys from Lowrance, Garmin, Hummingbird to come on and explain what we are seeing. Maybe feature some of the new stuff out there, like the 3d features that some of these units have available.
What electronics do you have? Lowrance has a sweet autopilot set up that is about $1000. They link in with your HDS units. I just put my ulterra down and use it as my autopilot. It works great.
Nice looking rig! Enjoy
WB, I just moved mine to the third hole, 2 holes above mounting bolts. I am running the sws 2 19p. Really seemed to help all my issues. I was running at 5900 rpm, now spinning 6100. Cavation plate went from completely buried to running just at or slightly below the surface. I didn’t really have a long distance to wring her out, but did manage to a fuzz over 55mph. Hole shot was pretty good, 0-planing in 4.2 seconds. I beleave my mpg numbers were a little better as well, as I was able to run a little more trim at slower speeds. I could only find some 2′ waves to run in, but felt it did a good job holding nose up. And this was all done with a full livewell.
Tried out the Tempest Plus 21p today, conditions were 75 degrees, west wind 17-21mph. Could not find any water that would let me run up past 40mph today. Hole shot was about the same as the sws2 19p. Was able to go out and play in the rough stuff, found some 2-4’s to run in. Tempest did well, no complaints. Just my feeling, but felt that the SWS 2 19p just, well felt better in the rough stuff. I would like to try the Pro series 21p that Joe is running, and a Bravo 1 FS 20p. As far as your cav plate, everything I have done in the past has been, the starting point is to put the cav plate even with bottom of boat, then check it to see where it is at. We have step transoms, and they throw a wrench in for me. But I think I have mine set properly. My last boat was a Starcraft 2050 w/Etec 225 HO. It drives very differently than my Skeeter, I don’t think these Skeeters like as much trim as I am used to using. Get somebody to drive your boat, fill the livewell, have them run 35mph, trim up where you are running good and look over the transom and see where your cavation plate is in relation ship to the water surface. You want it as close to the surface as possible. For me, I beleive I have it set pretty good. Good luck.
Not to make this seem like a chronic issue with the WX2060 but I also just bought a 2016 and I am having porpoising issues as well. If there are any waves at all then it will porpoise until I hit 45+ even keeping it trimmed down all the time.
Wooden Boy,
Just curious about what hole your engine is mounted in? Mine is mounted in the 2nd hole from the top. I just had the marina raise it a hole, but haven’t had time to run it yet.
Joe,
I can trim down and get thru the proposing in the 30-45mph range with two on board, fairly easy now, it takes some work but can be done. Mine gets bad when I start putting weight in back, I run 3-4 of us in my boat a lot, I am a big guy, 6’1″ 250LBS (mostly muscle…lol) and my buddies are too. You add a full livewell at 200lbs. then another 250-500lbs of men, that is a lot of beef. One of the big selling points for me was the jump seats in the back deck. Oh well, I can’t wait to get to the lake and pick up the boat and start trying to get this worked out. I have been trying to get a demo on Bravo 1 in a 20p, but can not find one.
Joe, I pick the boat up Friday night. My plan is to run the current SWS 2 19p, and try the Tempest Plus 21p this weekend. I hope mother Erie let’s me. We are getting that rain/storm that took out Louisiana right now. I am hopeful the SWS 2 is going to work. Yamaha lists the operating range for the SHO from 5000-6000 rpm’s. Everything I have read or heard is that the SHO makes its best power from 5500-5800 rpm’s, and that the max power is closer to 275-280hp. So I am shooting for upper rpm range, to low and you wind up lugging your motor and doing damage that way. Have any of you talked to your Skeeter dealers? If so what are they telling you? I have, and all I get is, “I will talk to the Skeeter/Yamaha reps and see what they have to say”, and then nothing. My dealer is brand new to Skeeter, so no experience to draw on from previous boats. Well, I will report back after I get my testing done. Wish me luck.
Yea, I checked her this weekend. Hole shot from dead stop to plane was 4.2 sec. pretty good I thought. Made some real hard turns and she only blew out once, and I think it was the waves that caused that. Couldn’t find any water flat enough for WOT throttle check, but did get to look at the cav plate, and as suspected she is deep. I think raising it a hole is a good start. I am debating on getting a demo prop on the Bravo 1 fs in a 20 pitch, based on what SF has been reporting. I will also be trying my Tempest Plus 21p. Picking up the boat on Sat morning. So I am hoping mother Erie will cooperate with me this weekend, and give me some flat water somewhere. SF, once you get your jackplate installed, I bet you will be fine with that 21p. I think Justin is able to get his set up fine tuned a little better, to be able to spin the 22p. You mention that formula for the cav plate using a setback plate, the other thing we need to keep in mind is the small cut out we have on our transom right above the pad. That has to be figured in as well.
I am going out and do some obeservation on where the cavition plate is, in relation to the water. I had 3 guys with me a couple of weeks ago, 1000 lbs of fisherman. One of the guys look over the back when I was running and mentioned it later. He told me that the red line on the SHO lower unit was at the water line. So, that is telling me I am too deep on my setup, motor is mounted in 2nd hole from the top. I am going out tomorow with the wife and have her drive, while I take a look at the cavation plate. I want to see exactly where it is for myself. I put a straight edge on it and the cavation plate seems to be between the bottom of the boat, and the edge of the step in the back. Everything I know about setup is you want the cavation plate even with the bottom of the boat, wet/splashed, but not under the surface, so this is a little confusing for me. I also know that boat manufacturers have a tendency to be ultra conseravative on engine height, so it doesn’t surprize me that the cav plate may be low. I have boat scheduled into the marina to have the motor raised, just not sure how much yet. After I get the cavation plate height set correctly, I want to start playing with props. Justin seems to be doing well with the 22p, he has a 6″ setback hyd jackplate, but Sod Farmer is having trouble turning the 21p, with 8″ set back plate, Justin is able to fine tune his engine height on the fly. So, I will probably start with a 20p, and move up from there. I want to keep as much top end speed as I can, but I will gladly give up some for a better handling boat. Maybe I will get lucky and keep the speed and pick up the handling. Unforntantly my marinia is brand new to Skeeter and has not been much help. I am pushing my guy to bring this handling issue up at the dealer meeting this month. Hopefully, there will be other dealers who do the same. Yamaha has never been know for their props, and maybe that has something to do with it too. Has anyone that is having problems, look at their cav plate height?
