John Neubaum wrote:

Ready to go
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First shots
Vet checked

Great looking pup John!

I am now in the same boat as OP and starting to look for breeders – I lost my 2nd Springer earlier this year (it was devastating) and have been just letting things settle.

If anyone has any recommendations out West, I am all ears. I am willing to travel as well, if needed, for the right pup.

Thanks!

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I don’t, but you also might want to look at HD Innovations. It’s the guy who used to design the Summit stuff and now has his own company and is basically making improved designs of the Summit stuff…

The one thing i’ll say about the Arclab pole is that it doesn’t fold into itself, it’s 2 separate sections, this was a dealbreaker for me. I also use my Livescope from my lake dock and the Summit pole ram mount works slick for that application.

Thanks Joe Ill take a look at it

Wondering if anyone has the new carbon fiber Summit pole in-hand? I’ve been hemming and hawing over the Arclab, but haven’t pulled the trigger yet.

Hopefully it is compatible with the UHDs they have been phasing out. I’ve kinda been holding off on the 34 to see if they came out with any updates or a new version.

Awesome, I like it. Thanks! Sorry Bill for derailing

Joe – I got the ball part, but wondering what Ram attachment/mount you are using on the pole to attach to the ball?

JoeMX1825 wrote:

if you’re not going to be trolling fast with it, just get a Summit Pole with a RAM mount (Put Ram balls on all corners of your Pontoon for flexibility)

Do you have a pic for reference on this Joe? I have been trying to think of a good way to mount the pole/transducer on my raft and feel like the ram ball mount might work on one of my side shelves.

I actually started watching bass fishing the last couple years again because of Livescope and FFS.

I love seeing them pick off those bigs offshore. Bigger bags and bigger fish. I can see the nostalgia and trying to keep the traditions, but to me it’s more exciting seeing 30+ lb bags than guys struggling to catch 10lbs. The biggest thing to keep in mind is that everyone has the same technology available and same playing field. I’m sure they will implement some sort of restrictions or limits, but if they take away FFS I probably won’t be watching as much.

I’ll have to keep an eye out for the coupon then – appreciate it.

The Arclab pole is actually almost $400 once shipping from CA is included:

Pro Series 2 Piece Aluminum Transducer Pole and Transducer Pole Ice Bundles

I cant explain the disappointment I’ve had with the Summit pole – never pans well and sticks all the time. Arclab has the integrated swivel collar and is light years better than the Summit pole. Was on the fence and then used a buddies and was immediately sold. Crazy expensive and hard to stomach, but I’ll be using it for both ice and open water and guess its going to be buy twice cry once sort of deal.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>grizzlyhackle wrote:</div>
30Ah Lithium Battery (LiFePO4) Wide = Weight: 6lbs 10oz
32Ah Lithium Battery (14.8V NMC) with Charger = Weight: 4lb 13oz

Cant believe the 32AH is that much lighter – appreciate the heads up on it! Definitely will be grabbing the 32

yeah, its a great battery, some bark at the NMC’s reduced charge cycles but who seriously get’s to even 400-500 charge cycles on a battery?

Just remember the NMCs use their own specific charger…

Have you seen it on sale at all? I don’t need it right away, but have the NMC battery and Arclab transducer pole/bundle on my list. I can wait if they have sales at all throughout the year, but kinda nervous of price increases (like with everything else).

I’ve been to Daves 100s of times and it is my wife and I’s favorite sushi place in Bozeangeles.

Obviously the root cause was they didn’t cook them like they should and was a pretty shitty situation.

30Ah Lithium Battery (LiFePO4) Wide = Weight: 6lbs 10oz
32Ah Lithium Battery (14.8V NMC) with Charger = Weight: 4lb 13oz

Cant believe the 32AH is that much lighter – appreciate the heads up on it! Definitely will be grabbing the 32

JoeMX1825 wrote:

gotcha, that and batteries and ducer equates to our number differences…You should switch to the 32ah NMC battery, shaves off almost 2 lbs and the higher current is better for the screen & livescope image…

Do you have a link for the 32ah? If it will save me 2lbs and is higher current I will probably do it.

Thanks Joe

Ya I modified the old 3d printed Summit shuttle so the 126 would fit – I didnt want the heavier CNC shuttle or the Archlab with exposed wires/possible arcing.

Case & Shuttle = Summit XL Bag and 3d printed Summit Shuttle
Transducer = LVS32
Screen = Echomap UHD 126sv
Battery = Amped 30ah wide
Cables = Garmin ice bundle cable harness (010-12676-40) and short female network cable (010-12531-10)
Covers = Summit LVS32 transducer cover, Garmin screen cover

TOTAL BUNDLE WEIGHT = 29.2 lbs

suzuki wrote:

They didn’t have any knives on their website but bought a couple of their seasonings.

Looks like you gotta call Paul

https://northwoodsseasoning.com/products.php

JoeMX1825 wrote:

So I have the 106sv, Summit HD shuttle, Summit L bag, LVS34, Amped 32ah battery, Garmin all-in-one harness and short network cord and it weighs 28.2 pounds total.

The 126sv head unit is 1.5 lbs heavier than the 106sv and then the metal bracket difference (I don’t have that weight) + add the weight difference between a Large vs XL bag…I’d guess that will be 2-3 lbs total…

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Love seeing SM at the top! Looks like hes leading by almost a lb.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

I just looked and was really surprised to see the power usage of the 12″ vs 10″ was just .2 amps more, so the 32AH battery isn’t going to be a big issue, just lower the backlight a bit more…The 12″ screen is 1.5 lbs heavier than the 10″ and then add the bigger mounting bracket as well… my guess is you’ll be around 32-33 lbs…in the end 28 vs 32 pounds is nothing, they are BOTH heavy to lug around

My current setup is 23 lbs – 93sv is 2.3 lbs vs 126sv 5.5 lbs.

I am not sure how much difference the L vs XL summit bag is, but cant believe it would be more than a lb. So +4 lbs to my current 23lb total and I should still be 27-28lbs. Will obviously confirm once I get it swapped out.

JoeMX1825 wrote:

yeah, if weight & bulkiness isn’t an issue for you, then go with a 32″ DC TV and a big old battery…

Will be real curious to see the total weight vs your 106 build. Current weight is 23lbs with the 93 and only swapping the head units and bag, so guessing I will still be well under 30.

@ Joe – I’d honestly go bigger than 12 if I could – I like the extra real estate. Have you seen Ben Millikens 26” screen on his boat? Ridiculous but I love it. I’m not really worried about the weight at all cause I’m not lugging it around a bunch. If I am hole hopping I have a small little sled I just leave the unit in. Pull the transducer and pull the sled to the next hole. Otherwise it’s setup in the hut. My biggest concern was just the battery life on the 32ah wide.

@ Cw – thanks man that’s exactly what I was wondering. I appreciate it.

I’ll update the build thread with total weight once I get it put together.

Thanks guys

I grabbed a 126sv from Bass Pro on sale for 1499.97 + active junky discount – not sure how it’s gonna work with the Summit Shuttle, but know I’m gonna have to get the bigger bag.

Wondering if anyone has used the 126 through the ice? Obviously going to be heavier, but just curious if there is any real world feedback?

Thanks

lrott2003 wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dan Buchmann wrote:</div>
Usually we work in groups of 4-6 students so one person drilling, someone checking depths or using an underwater camera to check bottoms then we’ll use livescope and vexilars for the actual fishing. It’s just going to help us eliminate water during our tournaments. We have fundraised and have about $10000 in our account so the kids decided they wanted to purchase one.

You can piece together and save some money but i purchased the LV32 bundle this fall and it was super easy to unpack and just fish with. I bought the ice bundle and used the stock pole this winter it was okay but I will upgrade. I bought a lithium 30 AH battery. For open water I just bought a simple transom mount trolling bracket and use PVC pipe for pole it worked great and very inexpensive.

Do you have pics of the mount by chance? I am trying to figure out how I am going to mount Livescope on my raft – having a hard time thinking of ideas.

Dan Buchmann wrote:

We have a list of discounts but not for Livescope. Any recommendations for the mount,pole, what unit is best?

Expensive, but I’d look at ArcLab for the shuttle/pole/mount. I’ve had the Summit shuttle/pole for a couple seasons, but it gets pretty annoying trying to smoothly scan and get it setup right.

I wish they would have some sort of sale so I can justify grabbing 2 more – I’m up to 4 now, but would like to have 6

buckybadger wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Gitchi Gummi wrote:</div>
From my viewpoint, 10-15 years ago, Otter was way ahead of Clam and Eskimo in terms on quality. Fast forward to today and the difference in quality between those brands is negligible. With that said, I think that has more to do with Clam and Eskimo improving quality than it does Otter falling behind.

Agreed

x3 – Back in the day in/around the glacial lakes (Waubay,Bitter,sloughs,etc) the guys out there all the time were running Otters. It was the best you could get as far as durability/warmth/quality/etc. I remember coming home from a trip and immediately ordering a Cabin and selling my Clam. Been on the Otter bandwagon since, but I agree the quality has seemed to gone down.

Randall Schultz wrote:

Clam makes a bag for that setup.

Based on reviews it is huge:

“Cover is quite large for the Clam plates. I assume it is made for many different augers. It does what it is intended to do and is well constructed.”

“This bag is massive. I use the clam drill adaptor plate with a 20v dewalt hammer drill and the bag is very loose. It’s made very well and does it’s job but could be made a bit narrower.”

“Great product for the price and good quality. The only drawback is it is over sized and moves around alot in the wind. Otherwise it’s a great product”

John Rasmussen wrote:

You could have one made, know anyone with a sewing machine.

I’m leaning on going this route if I can find a seamstress

OG Net_Man wrote:

I happen to have a old dog bed that the fabric cover had a zipper. This cover just happen to fit the auger like it was made for it. Keeps the wet snow off well but it was not waterproof for slush.

I was also thinking about outside the box ideas – maybe some sort of neoprene cover or something I’m not sure. Will most likely be using the contractor’s bag this weekend just so its covered.

OG Net_Man wrote:

Just adjust the sensitivity for the perch. Adjust the rubber ring on the portion of the arm that the snap on the flag slides on to.

Thanks Terry – kinda what I was thinking also. The FFs are so straight forward I figured it was that simple haha. Thanks!

I’ve got a couple more FFs coming – planning on trying them this weekend on perch. Wondering if anyone has any tips when targeting perch with them? I’ve mostly used them for pike.

Never leave without my Kahtoolas