I saw a show where Al Linder was trolling with them on a flat and they would pull there rod forward and let it drop back all the time when they were trolling trying to get a reaction bite or when the plug went back it fluttered and looked like a injured minnow. They did real well. He had on a silver with a pink back. I also should have added that Shadow raps have a looser wobble then the H-jerks where they are more tight wobble.