I dont road hunt at all. I put over 200 miles on my boots grouse hunting last year and shot close to 40 grouse. I don’t have a problem shooting birds. I have a problem with a$$hole ATVers that break the law. Most of the places I hunt are out of cell service. Pretty hard to call them in.
What is your ax to grind with me? All I’ve said in this thread is ATVers do in fact impact hunting and they often leave messes in woods and you come at me with personal attacks.
The bold is already illegal and not at all what I’m talking about. People road hunting anywhere, including approved ATV/OHV trails are not really hunting imho. And you will not have to worry about these people if you are not hunting driveable trails. For example the non-ATV/OHV logging trails in Paul Bunyan are blocked off from any vehicle entry, and I shoot most of my grouse there.
none of the trails I hunt are approved ATV trails. that doesn’t stop them
And honestly unless you are road hunting (which I’d argue isn’t really hunting), it has no impact on hunting imho
I disagree 100%
Where I grouse hunt, 90+% of the other “hunters” in the area are road hunting on ATVs on the same trails. It really takes the sport out of it and the pressure significantly impacts bird movement. They ride trails that are not designated ATV/OHV trails, drive like a bat out of hell, often have alcohol in the cup holders, and will drive down a trail even if a truck is parked at the end and very clearly hunting it with a dog (i.e. kennel in back of truck). If I ever come up to a trailhead and see a truck parked there, I will let them have it and go hunt somewhere else.
There is very little etiquette by this crowd. I try to avoid them the best I can but its hard when they can cover 10 miles to your 1 mile you can cover on foot. It really puts a damper on things when you walk 3 miles into a trail and you know the last mile is where you will see the payoff with the most birds only to get leapfrogged by a couple guys in a SXS and hear a bunch of shooting 2 min after they leapfrog you on the trail.
Public land or private property there’s always going to be that certain segment of our society that thinks laws do not pertain to them.
in the superior national forest, 9 times out of 10 the rouge ATV trails will lead to a pile of empty beer cans and/or a pile of trash and burn pit
I’ve fished the rainy river in the boat and lake of the woods in the snobear on the same day in April. Caught a 28” in the boat and a 26” on the ice same day.
One of the things I do at work is manage a small subsidiary of our parent company that owns several thousand acres of land down in Florida. I get no less than 20 letters in the mail every week from random people/companies wanting to buy our land site unseen. Most are lowball offers – I’d say less than 5-10% are even somewhat close to a value we’d sell it for. Most of the people giving the offers are people who try to get it for cheap, get it surveyed/plotted/engineered and flip it to a developer.
Capitalism is doing a number on the housing stock and real estate market in our country.
I’m all for open season on rough fish. Game on
Smallies taste great battered and fried.
you have a highly efficient system Dan. Do you mind sharing what RO system you have and how much you have into it? also, do you have a finishing pan or how do you finish a batch of that size after you pull off the evaporator?
So, because you don’t understand their hobby they are idiots? As has been said before on this site…you need to watch your own bobber.
well said. a lot of people don’t understand why someone would want to sit freezing their butt off all day in a deer stand, or ice fishing, or fishing in a boat… or walking 10 miles a day to shoot 3 pheasants.
just because its not your thing doesn’t mean you need to sh*t on it
Started drawing off the evaporator this morning and it’s looking like it has great color
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Dan – post a couple more pics of your evaporator – I’d love to get a better glimpse of your operation! Whats your filtering process?
It seems like it took a bit longer for the trees to wake up because of the deep frost. I think the frost was deeper than normal this year due to a light snow year and several stretches of really cold temps. I still have some trees that just woke up in the last day or two. But its looking like we will have a deep freeze over the weekend so I want to get everything I have boiled today. Then we look to have another run of nice weather days starting Monday going thru Friday next week, so it looks like another long boil is going to be slotted for end of next week. If all goes well, I could end up with 10 gallons this year.
I lost my sap hydrometer so I’m not able to measure sugar content of the sap when it comes out of the tree but I’ve heard people are getting higher (4-5%) sugar content than normal (3%). I’ll see what we end up with for syrup at the end of this batch and will do some back math to figure out sap sugar content.
Got my first 80 gallons boiled last night and have about 115 left to boil today plus whatever we get in the bags today. Should be a good batch based on how it looks so far.
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It may seem like it, but you are not alone on your view. Like you I’d also take it if mandated, but think its just one more form of government control. Some here are all in Favor of the Government making all decisions for them on everything. Others don’t want the Government in control of anything. Then some in the middle. To me there are just far more things causing injury or harm to our country than this issue. Idiots are idiots, and no amount of training will change some of them.
are you against hunters safety? snowmobile safety? speed limits? seat belt laws? drivers license testing? distracted driving laws? is that all “government control” too?
just remember, for every stupid law out there, there’s idiot’s actions that caused the need for the law. Undesirable actions often lead to the need for legal intervention.
Contrary to what many will tell you, a 20 gauge is plenty adequate to kill a turkey, pheasant, and deer to name a few. More pellets aren’t going to help a bad shot.
In my part of Duluth, the weather has been great the last week and looks great the next week. Bman Id be cautiously optimistic with that forecast for you. Once its above freezing, even by a couple degrees, I feel like sun is more important than adding a few more degrees.
I’ve got about 125 gallons ready and probably another 30 in the bags to be collected. I plan to start boiling tomorrow and will boil for a few days straight. My number of taps keeps climbing as I’ve been adding more every couple days – currently at 89 taps. Average sugar content of the sap I’m getting is just north of 3%
It’s not unethical to kill a bird in season, no matter who tells you it is
Just because it’s legal doesn’t mean it’s ethical.
Is it ethical to shoot a bear over a pile bait? Is it ethical to fish bass on spawning beds? Is it ethical to shoot a doe with a fawn? Is it ethical to shoot deer in a fenced in farm?
I think an important part of being a sportsman is being an ethical one. It’s pretty clear ethics and morals aren’t something everyone inherently has.
I guess my point is still being partially missed.
“It doesn’t matter “when” the mortality happens during a 365 day period…it only depends on HOW MUCH THERE IS.”
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I’m not advocating for a 365 day grouse season, but if you kill 20 grouse during September-October or you kill 20 grouse from September-March, there’s still 20 dead grouse.
I can see your point about added stress, but I also don’t feel like any grouse I jump while shed hunting, collecting sap, scouting deer, hunting turkeys, etc are going to die because they had to fly away from me???
Then factor in the grouses massive and natural population swings? Human pressure has very little to do with the grouse numbers in any given year.
I disagree. There’s more implications to hunting grouse than the number you kill. Like I said, when you hunt grouse in the winter it will disrupt their natural survival strategies and patterns. When pressured, they will leave their scare habitat and food sources to try to avoid being killed. You don’t kill every grouse you make contact with. Typically I kill 1 grouse for every 5-10 I flush. If I hunt them in the winter and kill my limit in a day, I could have potentially flushed/contacted 25-50 grouse. As I said, in the winter when they’re pressured, those grouse may end up starving themselves just to avoid being shot. So yes while you killed your limit of 5, you may have caused the death of many more.
One must first acknowledge that hunting and fishing “seasons” are made up man-made “dates”.
It doesn’t matter “when” the mortality happens during a 365 day period…it only depends on how much there is.
Take grouse for example. Killing a grouse in winter is considered much more detrimental to the population than killing one in fall. With scarce food and harsh weather, if you start hunting them it will disrupt their natural survival strategies and patterns which could potentially lead to them starving themselves just to avoid being shot. They’re already strained due to limited food resources and they’re grouped up much more than any other time of year. They’d be a lot easier to hunt in the winter and it’d really dent the population if it was legal. I think it’s well known amongst serious grouse hunters that it’s extremely unethical to kill a grouse in the winter.
Contrary to your opinion, I believe there’s definitely science that supports having seasons for at least some species.
Knowing him personally, you couldn’t be any more wrong. Sad judgement though !!!
At least I didn’t tell people they’re “gayer than aids” like a teenager. I honestly didn’t know adults still talked like that.
I’ve called guys out (both strangers and friends) multiple times for tossing them when I’ve seen it happen.
Ironic. You tell strangers to pick up their butts. But when I make a thread saying I hate when people liter cigarette butts, I should watch my own bobber. Riiiiiight. I love irony. Those are some interesting mental gymnastics there.
Sounds like you should be watching your own bobber also if we’re going by your logic.
My advice to you guys who are offended or grossed out, watch your own bobber.
Found the litterer!
Jeremy what area are you in?
Buck a game and a penny a point… Skunks pay double!!
we play a quarter a peg, skunk pays double, double skunk pays triple. games can get expensive if someone goes on a tear
Ohh this could be fun… question for my fellow cribbage players: how do you count your hands? I start with runs, then pairs, then the 15s. I believe I’m in the minority here
always start with the 15s.
you guys seriously running your dishwasher for multiple hours? might be time for an upgrade. I installed a new bosch a couple years ago and it has a 30 min express wash that more than gets the job done. Otherwise if dishes are really dirty I’ll run the 60 min cycle and I’ve never had a dish not come out of that clean. On top of that, you can’t even hear the thing running. I never realized how quiet mine was until I went to other peoples houses and heard theirs and it sounded like a fricken lawnmower. Plus the bosch uses less water than hand washing and thats important to me being on well/setpic.
I’ll also add I hand wash pots pans, chef knives, wood cutting boards, etc. Like others said, just because its “dishwasher safe” doesn’t mean you’re not slowing wrecking it by washing it in the dishwasher.
Nice to see the kids out tapping. Hopefully they get some exposure to the boiling and finishing process too – that’s the best part. The bag holders work the best out of all the tapping methods I’ve used. Unfortunately they get blown around in the wind pretty bad too until they get some sap in the bags to hold them down.
I added about 10 more taps last night which puts me close to 70 – not totally sure as I haven’t done an official count. Only have about 20 gallons so far but am hoping it will pick up enough this week to do a boil this weekend. Still about half of the ground where I’m at is snow covered. The trees haven’t woke up yet.
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I added about 20 more taps this weekend which puts me at around 60. Only about 1/3 were wet as of Saturday.. Another 1/3rd started running yesterday. Hoping the last 1/3 woke up today. Would really like to do my first boil this weekend.
I grill often all winter long. Mostly burgers and brats. Not those little crispy smash burgers either – I like mine with some juicy red meat on the middle.
I stopped cooking steaks on the grill a few years ago when I got a sous vide. You just can’t beat a sous vide steak and finish with a quick sear on the cast iron. Simply the best way to cook em – hands down.
WHen a year passes I tend to forget a lot of things. I remembered last night that for some reason I dont get channel 45 since I switched to directv stream. It was there on satellite but I lost it when I switched. Its not even listed in the guide so I know its not because I didnt have it favorited. Bummer. I can stream it on my PC, but I have never been able to cast it to my TV because its a lame Vizio and they make it so clunky. Maybe I will give it another shot today.
do you have a smart tv or fire stick? All I did was download the KSTP app and stream it from there. Quick and easy.
