Every boat should have trim tabs no matter what! You can adjust for any condition or weight imbalance. I run Lenco 9×12’s on my 2016 WX2060 and they work outstanding and they were $500 shipped off Amazon. I also added suspension seats this year and they have taken alot of abuse off my back. I don’t think one can possibly take place of the other even though trim tabs will make it ride better in the rough stuff….. Definitely I would do the tabs first and go from there

I run a Skeeter WX2060 and I fish LOTW, Green Bay, Mille Lac’s, and the Dakota’s. I have no concern about taking it anywhere and I’ve been in 4-5 footers multiple times. With that said there are days I wished I had a Grady White ????. My advice is go as big as you can afford and you’ll never regret it????

I believe 300hp is about all they can get with the stock rev limiter in place. If you leave the stock limiter in place a tech won’t even notice it’s been flashed. 320-340hp has been had by hydro-tech but I believe that’s closer to 6400rpm. A TON of bass boat guys have done this and with only a slight increase in RPM reliability isn’t any more of on issue than stock. You will have to more than likely re prop to get the max RPM out of it to take advantage of the horsepower and where it comes in in the rpm range.

I do not have the Bravo LT but I am running the Bravo 1 on a 2016. I’m running the 21 pitch in with the motor in the highest hole. With a light load I’m 5800-5900 at 56-57mph. Loaded with 2-3 people and full livewells I’m 55mph at 5700. The boat handles much better and has way more bow pressure if needed and jumps on plane extremely quick. I did have this prop worked a bit to get a few more RPM’s. I would’ve went to the 20 pitch but I couldn’t get one for quite a while and I didn’t want to wait. The 2018 supposed to run a bit faster so I’d assume somewhere around 20pitch in either Bravo would be about right to get you close to 6000rpm Wich is what Yamaha wants on the SHO.

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Andrew Rice wrote:

Some great info here!

I’ll admit I don’t know, what is the danger of not get WOT up to 5900+? Lugging the engine too much? Not cleaning out the carbon or getting up to operating temp?

They like the SHO to run closer to 6k rpm. Peak horsepower is at 5750rpm so Yamaha wants them at or over that I believe. I believe the offshore 300 max hp is closer to 5500rpm.

I was running just about 5700@56mph wich wasn’t bad. I run 5900@57mph with the M21 3 blade. I should get some time to test shortly but I should be in the 5900+ range with the Bravo then. Don’t worry Dean I may be a dumb truck driver but I got it figured out:-)

Switch to a Bravo 1 prop and the difference is astounding. I run a 2016 WX2060 and ran the Yamaha 3 blade since new. I recently dinged that prop on LOTW so I ordered a Bravo1. Porposing is gone! I actually did a holeshot the other day at 3/4 trim to test the bite…. Bow only bounced 3 times! If you tried that with the factory prop it would have just blew out or bounced you to death. I can stay on plane down to 18mph and I don’t have trim tabs yet! I will be running one of these props on every boat from here on. If you try one I’d try the 20 pitch and go from there. I had the 21 but I needed more rpm under heavy load so I had it worked a bit.

Might want to look at the new WX 2200 or WX 2060 just to compare some of the features, storage, latches etc… Are done currently that differ from the WX 2190. I currently run a WX 2060 with hummingbird electronics. I use the contour trolling often! It all depends on personal preference. My next boat will probably have a Garmin along side my Bird as well because of they’re amazing technology. I may have a WX 2200 next but I’m NOT afraid to put my WX 2060 on any body of water!!! Good luck with the purchase ????????

I would like to know what the part number is for that boarding ladder in the picture?

I run one hole from the top with a Yamaha 21M prop at 57mph with myself and all my gear.

theWoodenBoy wrote:

Phil,
Thanks for sharing your insights! It really does help to hear your experiences. I had it out yesterday on smooth and calm water. It has tendency to porpoise if I use any trim at all even on calm water. It really doesn’t take much waves to get the bow bouncing. I had a full rear live well and was able to get 5900rpm at about 55mph. I had my boy hold the wheel at 40mph with no trim so that I could snap a pic. If that is a good reference point then to me appears like I need to raise the motor one hole. Is that I correct interpretation of the attached pic?

Thanks again!

It’s going to run higher out of the water @55mph than 40 keep that in mind.

Thewoodenboy, mine was 3rd hole as well and I cannot use all my trim or I start to loose mph!! Depending on what prop your running you’ll probably need to drop 1 hole or 2. I talked to 3 of the best prop guys in the Midwest and they all said at FULL trim your rooster tail should be no more than 1-1.5ft out of the water. You can’t go exactly by reference to the bottom of the boat because All hulls are a little different and some props can be ran higher up. So if you lose speed before full trim drop 1 hole and try it….. If that’s enough leave it there but if not take it down 1 more.

With all the conversations I have had with everyone and my short bit of testing I have decided these boats have enough bow lift with the setback and stepped transom that they simply require more trim down at slower speeds than I am used to. If you look at the point the water breaks on the hull at mid range it’s still farther back than my 1900 at full trim. I will be doing more testing and maybe a prop change but for now I’m happy with the 21M running 56-58.5 depending on load. I stated I had a porpoising problem because I thought I should be able to run more trim at 30-45 but I guess that’s not the case. I will be installing trim tabs for other reasons but I believe they will also help you run more trim at slower speeds as well. My motor is mounted in the 3rd hole but I will be dropping it at least one hole as I have a bit more trim left I can’t use yet or I lose speed.

I have talked to my dealer as a matter of fact I’m meeting one of the guys halfway right now to get my boat to them to fix a fuel vent issue. They all claim no one is having any porpoising issues although I’ve talked to or chatted online with 4 people who are! I also talked with 3 prop shops and they’re not sure the prop is the issue but maybe just the setup with the set back/stepped transom. I had an extensive conversation with 2 guys that said it’s very likely i will have to run trimmed down a lot until the 40+mph range and that’s just the way it is. If I’m running trimmed down 80% or so until into the 40’s the boat runs fine and it runs like a scalded cat at full trim anything over 45mph. I can easily make it not porpoise 30-45 I just never had to run that much trim down on my WX1900 but that was a completely different hull and no setback. Couple people say it’s the setback amplifying the issue. I spoke with Justin and his runs great if he drops his jack plate at slower speeds but you shouldn’t have to do that if your balanced right although that’s how alot of bass boats are. The other guys here are running 1-2 holes lower with the saltwater II props and having the same results which is what my dealer wants to do and I told them it’s not going to change it much because the guys setup that way are still doing it. I believe a Bravo or Rev 4 might help but I don’t feel there’s a 3 blade that will. I’m thinking about adding trim tabs now for a few reasons …. For one I hear they’re great in rough water and I think they may help u run trimmed up at slower speeds. First I want to test a four blade.

Phil if you get a chance to try the 21 Tempest I’d like to know what it does. I suspect it’ll be too much cup ….. I’m thinking a 19 Tempest or 20 if they even made a 20 would be better RPM these SHOs need to run 6000!

You are correct Phil, I can only raise my motor one more hole. I checked WOT cavitation plate height and it is right at water level which I believe is where it’s supposed to be? On the lake every day for the past 7 days I can say I really like this boat! There are a few things I need to get figured out and one is the porpoising from 30-45mph!! I can trim it out no problem but i believe I will get ahold of a Bravo prop and see what that does as soon as I can. I was fully loaded with 4-5 people every day and was still seeing 56-57mph @ 6000rpm with the 21m. Couple days we had 1.5-2 footers and had no problem running WOT 56-57mph relatively smoothly across them.

According to Jim @ SBC he cannot get the pro series right now they’ve been discontinued while Yamaha is changing some stuff they just happened to find one on the shelf or I would’ve been stuck with a saltwater II.

I don’t know what series it is, it’s stamped 21M. I ran some very hard turns yesterday I cannot get it to blow out unless I was trimmed way to far to begin with. The motor looks to have only one hole left to raise it and I believe that would be too much. This prop gets the bow up plenty and seems to have good Stern lift. For a Yamaha 3 blade it’s not bad… I ran this same prop on my WX1900 200HPDI and it ran 49-51 but would blow out a bit in turns. I want to try a 22 Bravo 1 but probably won’t be tis year. There is a porpoising issue in the mid range if you don’t trim down or throttle past it. All in all I’m impressed so far but I’d like to see what a Bravo will do as far as the porpoising issue but for now I can deal with it.

I was able to get out this afternoon for a bit. The SHO is mounted on a 8in set back third hole from the top with all my gear & tackle rear livewell and fuel tank full 58.6mph quartering with a 1 foot chop was the best so far with the 21M. I am turning 6000 to 6100rpm.

Picked up mine today, leaving Friday for NW Ontario so I don’t know if I’ll get any run time in before I go. I asked Jim at SBC to put on a 21 pro series before I got there and they took it out for a test run… Full fuel and 1 guy it was 58-60mph! I still need to throw in tackle and rods but that’s not going to add much weight but I’m impressed so far. I’ll get alot of run time on it next week and report back.

What is your top speed with a lighter load where your set up now Phil?? I’m picking mine up Tuesday I think I’m going to get a Bravo 1 eventually but I’d also like to know what everyone thinks is the best Yamaha prop for this boat for top speed.

We were up on Saturday & Sunday not quite as good of numbers as last weekend but the storm early Sunday am kept us off the water til 10 or so and we had to head home about 3pm. Covered several flats looking for big marks, when we would find some we would work that area for some time. Still had best luck on copper or gold variations of spinners w/natural color beads and crawlers over leeches. Had 9 22-26.5in and 15-20 in the 13-17in range Saturday. Sunday we landed 5 between 20-24in and 13 smaller mid teens eyes. Had to work pretty hard for them but still had a good time. Be back on Friday to try again!

Obviously none of you have fished Bitter Lake in NE South Dakota, for the ones that have 100+ walleyes a day is a piece of cake when the bite is good! I had my wife and my 2 girls with me so we would run 6 lines w/slow death rigs and try to keep up. The second day we boated 275 and fished about 10-11hrs a day. The fishing on Mille Lacs has been great the short time I’ve been up there but I cannot get on a consistent smallmouth bite! Last weekend we pulled spinners & crawlers on 8-10ft Snell’s with mostly copper blade color variations seemed to do best for us.

Walleyestudent Andy Cox wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Joseph Krambeer wrote:</div>
All in all we did ok I thought as we probably caught 70-80 fish both days but 20+ of them were between 21-27in with about 10 of those over 24in.

You caught 70-80 walleye up to 27″ in 2 days and you think did ok? Can anyone find another place now that’s putting out those numbers and sizes? Even that rivals Canada destinations. I mean what’s going on here at Mille Lacs?

Just to make sure you understood me correctly only 20 or so we’re above the low 20″ mark. My wife & I walleye fish alot so 35-40 fish a day is kinda a slow day…. last labor day weekend we boated and released 706 in 3.5 days in NE South Dakota…. mind you those were mostly 14-16 inches they were still fun to catch. The trip up there this weekend was great …. I didn’t mean to talk it down. We also caught enough other year classes or saw others catching them that there should be plenty more in the coming years. Looks like we may be running back up for this weekend and bringing the kids along so if you see a charcoal & silver Skeeter out there it’s probably me:-)

My wife and I fished Saturday & Sunday …. this was only our second time ever on the lake. We tried cranks some but had no luck so we tried Lindy’s and leeches on the flats and had some success. I decide to try some spinners & crawlers on bouncers and seemed to do better with the right color combo. All in all we did ok I thought as we probably caught 70-80 fish between both days but 20+ of them were between 21-27in with about 10 of those over 24in. We would hit spots with no boats and pick up a few and move on. Had a great time and hopefully the bite continues because I’d like to come back up in a couple weeks.

You’ll be 20ft or less, in fact pitching to shore in 1ft and retrieving plastics or blades can be very rewarding!!!!! Dan Kraft from Renwick? Just curious. Lots of fish up there and don’t spend all your time up by the dam there’s alot of spots elsewhere you don’t have to deal with 100’s of other boats. I fish it and can do well some days but I like to hit pool 2 cause it’s catch & release so there’s not as much of a crowd. Look for transition areas and current breaks or slack water areas or current seams and you’ll find fish then you just have to figure out what they want.

I don’t think anyone’s really trying to tell anyone what they can and can’t take. I see this a lot with some of my very close friends though…. It seems as if they get more thrill out of filling the live well than the actual experience of the “catch”. My heart skips a beat every time a fish bumps my lure and I set that hook! Isn’t that the same thing that gets most of you out on the water as well? My wife and I fish a lot on pool 4 as well as Iowa, Minnesota, south Dakota, and Canada and we prolly keep no maybe 12 fish a year. This doesn’t make me better than anyone else but I just feel I owe it to someone to return most of the fish I catch to be caught another day. I also don’t shoot bucks under 4.5 yrs old but that’s another story;-)