I am not excluding them. I did belong to a bass club. But having to travel more and more for work I can’t commit to a toury because I don’t know if I am going to be home. And in that club you had to pay your money a month before the tourament and if you are the boater you screw every thing up if last minute you can’t make it.It wasn’t about looesing the money.Its about doing things right. And a couple of times I was home that weekend and couldn’t fish because I didn’t pay the money.But again I didn’t know if I was going to be home. Any way it didn’t work for me. And being a club member I couldn’t be around for all the public projects. And go to all the meetings where they talked about everything but fishing. Maybe I need to find a better more layed back club.But I guess what I am looking for is is some cheeper opens. Thanks for the comeback.