BrianF wrote:

I’m confused…

Folks are talking about two different things here: a braid-to-flouro connection knot and a flouro-to-line-tie knot. To which is the OP referring?

Could this be part of the problem?

I’m referring Fluoro to lure/hook.

I’m simply looking to use fluoro for leaders on 3 ways.

I don’t mind palomars for jigs, but Im also wanting to use this with 3 way crank setups. I really dont think I want to mess with palomars and 4-5″ crankbaits.

Wow. Out of boredom I tried palomar’s and I had 4 in a row hold perfectly fine, without being overly paticular with how I tied them.

I still find it very odd that the line is so picky, but if I can get it to work well with a knot I might try using it. Thanks for all the suggestions

Seems the only knot I’m managing to get to hold with any reasonable repeatability is the clinch / improved clinch.

Fluoro cant really be this crappy or zero people would bother with it.

I’ve tried all knots mentioned, All break with little effort 90% of the time.

I can tie the same knots in 2 to 10lb mono and they hold perfectly. I have 3 diff types of fluoro in 8lb, and get similar poor results with each.

I have watched several videos, And duplicated them- My knots still snap easily the majority of the time.

What the heck am I doing differently!?!

I bought Yozuri brand to try out today. So far the clinch and the Eugene knot mentioned above break with little effort.

I have severe doubts the $30/ spool fluoro would be any different at all.

Edit,

I may be getting somewhere here. I’ve had 5 regular clinch knots in a row hold. I started drawing the knots down with much slower, steady pressure.

I have a winch (and a heater) on my Pioneer, I just have the stock battery. I’ve never had any issues.

Well the issue here isnt really the type of knot- atleast its not the main issue, The same knots I tie in mono are great. I’m apparently getting heat/abrasion damage while pulling the knot down, even though Im doing so as methodically and gently as humanly possible. Most of the knots break with VERY little effort- regardless of the style.

I’m actually shocked to still here people say “Ive never had any issues”, and sure would love for them to be here right now to show me what I’m doing wrong.

nhamm wrote:

Stren flourocast is not a quality flouro first off.

Clinch always failed me as well on smaller diameter flouro, anything over 8# no issues, but 2,4,6 is annoying as heck.

Through experimentation lately it seems a trilene knot with 3-4 wraps works much better. IMO the more wraps the worse bc when pulled tight its more surface area that causes friction that causes heat that is what compromises the knot. Could be way off but it works so far, and is easy to tie.

Well I have tried other brands, but a friend said I use stren and never have breakage issues. I thought why not, I’ll try to replicate it as the line was cheap.

The amount of wraps could be an issue, I often do 6 to 8. I’ll try less wraps and see how the knots go.

I dont understand it then. I use these same knots, wetted heavily and most knots break with very light pressure after drawing down.

I believe its gotta be abrasion damage from drawing the knot down, maybe my spit is defective :/