the croix is such a weird bite one day there on and you can slay em and the next i am poplin holes working hard, as for the ice it was safe be for this rain / snow storm hit there was a perm-init shack brought across the river and they were saying it just looked pretty hairy just cross with caution.. i cant vouch on how the ice conditions are now until i go down there later this morning when it gets a little lighter out but temps are gonna drop drastically hat should stir some things up