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APR is not going to balance the heard all by itself but it is a step in the right direction, we also need to find a way to get hunters to take more does in intensive harvest areas. The common theme I heard from farmers at the town hall meeting last week was that there were way too many does doing damage to there crops. I have heard in some areas the buck to doe ratio is 10 to 1, one farmer said he did not think that ratio was correct, he believes that the buck to doe ratio in his area is closer to 30 to 1. If we are ever going to cut down these numbers we as deer hunters need to take more does plain and simple. How do we get hunters to take more does in areas that allow you more than one deer? I do not know the answer to that question.
I would LOVE to help you and the state out with this problem. I would gladly pass on a state record buck (horns? ) and instead fill my tags with does. As I said in a previous thread about APR there are a few problems, such as landowners who have leased the land to a person/group for buck season and will not/ cannot let hunters in during doe season. Landowners who think they have their own little trophy habitat set up and are “managing” the land to produce bigger bucks for themselves. Non-hunter types who have moved into the area and will not allow even a couple hunters to walk the land to push the deer out of hiding spots.
I really should drive down to the area I hunt (area 343) and take a look at how many buck hunters are out for that season. In the area I hunt for the 3B season it is like my group are the only ones in the field. That in turn leads to the deer getting stirred up less and fewer doe being taken.
I do not care for the APR, simple as that. When a deer flushes from the woods or crests a rise or otherwise comes into view it is not easy, no, darn near impossible to make a positive ID on horn count unless the deer cooperates and stands still for a few moments while you take a long hard look. Is that a point? or a cornstalk behind it? Or a branch? I need to be dang sure of the points before I pull the trigger or I am gonna be in trouble if I walk up and find out I mis-counted.
I agree with the poster who said this will only lead to a worsening of the land access problem. I believe more land will end up in lease for trophy hunters with the cash to do it. The number of safe havens for the deer will increase and it will simply get harder to take a deer.
My area is intensive harvest, too many deer, period. If the state wants to reduce the overall size of the herd they need to address why landowners will not allow access to the land for the doe season. Earn a buck? I would love to take that doe from you, I have seen some posts in this thread that make it sound like some of the horn hunters think of the meat gained in a kill as an afterthought. I was raised in the you eat what you kill school. To me going out purely for the thrill of the hunt and/or kill, not to gain sustanance for myself/family is not right. I just do not get the people who go through all the expense of hunting only to donate the meat to the state for dispersal to food shelves (the lead issue is something else altogether ) I can place a fish back in the water that I catch and be pretty certain that it will recover and live to be caught again. Hunting is a one way street, pull the trigger and you just killed something. To not want the meat of the animal you just killed?
I am not holding my breath that the APR will be stopped before this experiment plays out. I will play by the rules and deal with it. I am concerned though to learn from this or one of the other APR posts that the questionaire about APR was on the DNR’s website and that anyone could submit it that way. This makes me wonder if the pro APR groups could have loaded the results by ensuring it’s members were very aware of it being online. No one in my group of about 12 recieved a survey. I was not aware the survey was on the DNR’s website until I read it in one of these posts. It would stand to reason that someone who holds this issue near and dear to his heart would take active steps to get his point of view across. Was I sleeping at the wheel? Perhaps. I start to think about hunting in Oct. when I need to hit the range and check the zero on my shotgun. If any swinging cod could take the survey online, how can anyone be certain that the results accurately portray the general populace? The more I hear about the results and how the votes in the survey were taken, the more I question it.
Yes, I could just buy a side of beef. Venison tastes better.