Not only in retail, but I saw cheap labor all over this state in the construction trades. The average person really doesn’t seem to care as long as it’s cheap.

You definitely can buy stiffer springs. If you are in a situation where you are hauling heavy and don’t need the plush ride, you can strap the A arms together so it doesn’t squat to the ground. The Polaris suspension really can’t handle a whole lot if you are towing. It just squats too easy.

In your situation though, I would look into some stiffer springs.

Or you could buy a 2 up machine and, ummm, let’s go riding……..

They are a problem because they are metal. They go up under the shingles (if that is done correctly), so when ice and water are up there in the winter, it hits the cold metal, freezes, and can creep up under the shingles. They cause major ice dams. The other problem is that they have a gap/hole/slice for the water to drip in, right….There are things smaller than a usual leaf that is in the animation they play….pine needles, dirt, etc. Now, how do you get this one piece metal off and clean out your gutter when it clogs?

The advertising for it is pure BS. You can’t say that you’ll NEVER have to clean your gutters. Just a stupid thing to say, IMO.

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would deff reccomend Leaf Guard
Would deff NOT reccomend Gutter Helmet

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Tell me more…….I have seen both fail miserably here in MN with our weather. Plus they are outrageous in price.

It is best to clean out your gutters or hire it done. No matter what you have to cover them, they will clog eventually, plus can cause other problems.

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Rocky mountain.com Roofer, that popo still running?

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Yes, one of the best machines I have had along with the Brute force, but the Polaris is sooooo much nicer in every aspect. Not brand loyal though. May try a different brand again next year.

Call Matt at atvoutfitters.net

Best prices and great service.

In my experience (gone through a bunch of tires with trucks)………
Bridgestone- great traction at the beginning, but don’t last very long at all

Firestone- wear like iron, but not much for traction, even new, but I haven’t tried many of them

Goodyear- good tire, but spendy and soft..don’t last

BFG’s- last very well, true to size, great traction, but they do grab some rocks on the gravel roads. (still my favorite tire)

Had ProComp all terrains also, and they didn’t last a year and were very small in size

Coopers are supposed to be fairly good also, along with the Yokahoma (sp) geolanders.

The other advantage of the BFG is the triple sidewall, and they still ride smooth. Only had one BFG that was out of round.

It’s a nice addition to get nitrogen in the tires instead of air. Makes a much smoother ride and it doesn’t fluctuate with temps.

Very cool, but I agree with birddog. I thought they were as expensive as a modern car also.

No sir.

They will travel from Rogers down there? I notice they are a LLC. Do they hire subs or do their own work with employees?

I usually do my own oil changes on atv’s also. I always use the Polaris oil and filter. It’s cheap enough and you don’t have to search around.

Just a suggestion…..why not contact a dealer and see what it costs? Sometimes it doesn’t cost very much, and they also go over the rest of the machine.

Not saying it’s necessary, just a suggestion. Heck, I’ve seen people that never did change oil in their atv.

I’ve only driven one 800 Outlander and it wasn’t brand new. It was a 2006, I believe. It felt more like a toy compared to the 850. The Outlander seemed real quick down low, and felt like it ran out in mid range. The 850 just seems to keep pulling hard. Not quite the low end of the 800, but I think that is all in the clutching.

The Outlander also suffered in the corners. It dove terribly in the front end. Again, this wasn’t a brand new machine, but I have heard similar complaints from Outty owners. The suspension in the Polaris 850 is the best I’ve ever ridden on. Very stable, very cushy, but yet sporty feeling for how heavy it is. You don’t notice the weight like you do on the other sportsmans. The big, alternate firing twin helps with that also.

The Brute 750 I had actually “felt” faster, but in reality the 850 is quicker and MUCH more trail friendly. For trail riding, I wouldn’t recommend another machine over the 850 XP. The 800 Outlander and 950 Cat are a little faster, but power does you no good if the handling sucks.

With all this said, I still wouldn’t mind have an Outlander 800. It is just a little sportier than the Polaris. Just wish they had a better front suspension.

This is easily answered in one word….PRICE

The guys have it right. I agree with everything said. A proper installation costs money. Too many people out right now being “contractors” and just hiring a cheap sub. Can we blame them…..uhhh, kinda, but not really.
When it comes to homes and the general public, everyone wants a Porsche for the price of a Ford Escort.
Who’s fault is it???? You decide.

Fishy…..can’t believe you gave it away. Your machine was loaded and like brand new. I know the feeling of the “itch” though.
I get the itch every year about this time……I’m holding out another year though.

If it’s EFI, you can get a little more.

The 500 HO for $5,000 new is a carb model. The EFI is $500+ more.

I don’t buy used, but I don’t see a problem with it. There are many people out there who bought and either couldn’t afford them or found out they didn’t use them much. Plenty of deals out there with very low miles.

With anything fairly new and not sunk, the only problem may be a belt and clutch, which are cheap to fix. Maybe a battery too.

As for what to look for, I can’t add much to what is already stated. Once you find your price range, look at quite a few of them. You’ll get an idea on what to look for. I always look at the shafts and CV boots. If they look worn, you know the person didn’t clean it up very good after riding in mud and weeds. I wouldn’t buy anything that was stored outside either.

Brian, check out the Hiller Auction. I know them personally, and you can get some great prices, even on new sometimes.

Yep, Azek, very good stuff!

Also…….

I know going to a dealer is easier because of the good financing and good deals right now, but I wouldn’t be afraid to save a few bucks on a used one either. There are quite a few people who bought last year and only put a few miles on them. Now they either can’t or don’t want to afford them, or decide that they didn’t need one in the first place.

Check for mud on top of the frame and under the engine. Also look under the seat at the engine, hoses, etc. for excess mud. Those are the toughest spots to clean.

Just went out today again for another quick swath. Picked out 6 dozen or so from a field of a friend. He plants 8 rows, about a half mile long with irrigation. Great corn right now. Not so ripe and woody. After killing off most of the coons the last couple years, it hasn’t been hit much at all this year.

This guy grows some of the best corn in the area. He says “If you have to floss after eating corn…the corn is too far gone”

I’m reluctant to admit, but my two EFI machines are great! Go EFI for sure.

Don’t be scared to go too big and don’t be afraid of any brands. All of the new ones are very reliable. I’m partial to Polaris, CanAm, and Kawi for various reasons I won’t bore everyone with………

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Heck look what it costs to buy a ladder! They can’t hardly make short ladders any more because they need the room for the safety stickers. Just once it would be nice if a judge or a jury said “Well, you were stupid and you got hurt. You should have listened to your Mother!”

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The guberment has trained us all like sheep to blame the other person…ALWAYS

Don’t blame the innocent public. I agree with everything said, but there isn’t much for parenting out there nowadays, so how can the youth learn any morals?

Most of us take the blame for our own mistakes, but when there is money involved, everything changes. You see it in everyday life…probably even in your line of work. I know I see it quite often in the work that we do.

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Must be a hard core union man here. Haven’t heard the word scab in years.
The union fellas I know are the biggest scabs I have ever met…..doing side jobs, stabbing their boss in the back…..on and on. It’s a mentality of “I am for myself and myself only”. That works until the company goes broke or has no work.

Nice!

That makes more sense. Thanks for clarifying.

Still a real good price for a building.

Rookie….of course there is more work in commercial….IT’S TAX DOLLARS at work In case I didn’t say that already.

I agree somewhat that union workers are skilled (most way more skilled than average in their own minds) because of the reasons you stated. Do you know why? It’s because the general public is very uhhh, ummm, cheap.

Like I said, the real world construction is in residential. Not saying it is better or worse, just saying it is more….well ya know, real construction.

If you have buddy’s who actually own a real business in construction(doing the business end and the labor end), I’m sure you have heard all this before.

Just take a look at the posts for construction here. Most people care about price #1 over quality#2. If they are big spenders, they usually try to get a happy medium.

Construction….please…

There is reason you see union construction only on schools and churches.(taxes)

The “real world” is residential…..dealing with everyday people.

Out of the union people I know….they want to make money, but no one should make money off of them. It’s the wrong attitude and it does NOT help our economy.

For the original poster……..

Save yourself some time and money by checking with your local building official for size requirements. Some areas have zoning stipulations on the size of building according to your area and size of your property.

That is interesting…..

Did that include a floor?
I see that they are code exempt. When asking a building official about buildings we have built, they say you have to have farm animals for the building to consider it code exempt. Otherwise it is a residential garage and codes are enforced.

90mph is the standard. It seems very inexpensive for a building that size. Just trying to figure out why…….

They have crews state wide that have been the same employees for 20 years?

My guess is that they hire out sub crews. Pole barn constructors don’t have to be licensed like a residential contractor……..I think….not sure with the new laws. Was just wondering.

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Latcham Farm Supply in Milaca. Ask for Paul.
They have crews that build state wide.

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Serious question…….are they legal crews?

Never used them, but I’ve seen their bids. We have built stick framed buildings for less in the past. Haven’t checked their prices lately though.

BTW, I have a pole barn. It’s OK, but I have it finished. If you are finishing it I recommend a garage. If it’s cold storage, a pole barn is cheaper, but kind of an eye sore.