I can’t disagree chippee with your logic. By that same accord you have to cover everyone who goes as little as 1 MPH over the speed limit. No offense but I highly doubt anyone here as NEVER gone beyond the posted limit. Or driven when getting tired, on the phone, day dreaming, reading, and all sorts of other things. I do agree with you just the same.
How many here would simply take their lumps and not plea down if possible? Exactly, me either. Don’t expect others to do something you yourselves won’t do. 
Sad what makes the news now a days. At least this isn’t as over done as where Tigers wood was. That said I made it over 110 3 times this summer. Once in my Mustang and twice in two others. In mine that speed is obvious, in the other two not so much, both were GT 500’s. If you drive one you will know what I mean. Last summer I drove from Hayward to Cadott in my Taurus. I lucked out and got behind some lady in a Malibu that was late for something as we drove along at speeds between 90 and 95. Not 109 mind you but made great time just the same.
Oh for the record I have been dinged two times over 100. Well three counting the time on my cycle. I was not taken to jail and didn’t lose my license. Actually I only got one ticket out of the three and on one occasion, on my cycle, I only had a learners permit. I guess my brutal honesty took the cop off guard because he never checked my registration or license. Sometimes it ain’t all about money I guess.
A team will take penalties and wins over no penalties and a loss any day. But I agree the penalties are out of hand for a lot of teams, many of the calls are cheesy at best as well. I did catch the play that Favre was called for a false start. It was ODD looking to say the least. I wish Fox would get back to showing replays so some things like that could be seen again to see what happened. Fox is now like ESPN was a few years ago as far as replays are concerned.
I missed most of the Vikes game today. I saw the second time AP lost the ball, I think they got it back on a challenge. I went back out hunting shortly after so I only saw parts of maybe a half dozen plays. The Ol’Man appeared to be in sync with the receivers today. It’s too bad my Bears had to be pummeled but hey, it’s like when they play the Packers (and when I like the Packers) I always wish for the team with the best chance to go the furthest to win. And that happened today.
Even after all your blather I will say this. Ted Thompson and Mike McCarthy are morons! Their tenure in the NFL will be short lived if they make it past this year. The experiment failed, NEXT! 
I Always Love That One…
My attorneys name is Bob Loblaw. How’d you know?
At least we agree the Packers are not the best, great analogy. 
Having more than one football team to like creates a lot less entertainment stress believe me. I work with guys like you. Packers lose and their, and everyone who they work near, whole week is shot. Packers win one and they are buying Super Bowl tickets. Week in and week out. Not to say only Packer fans are that way, not at all. Prior to the current failed experiment in Green Bay I cheered weekly for the Packers. They lose well so be it the Bears maybe won. Both win, cool. Both lose, so be it. It is three hours entertainment a week. Get down from your chair and put the rope away already.
Sorry dude, I’ve been a Bears fan since 1985. Nothing you can really say that I haven’t heard before. I suppose I could point out that even with all the failure the cheap, and yes they are, Bears management has amassed they have at least been to the Super Bowl this decade! Heck it even happened with the failed Lovie Smith and all the useless players you pointed out to me. Your attempt to ruffle my feathers? FAIL!
I see I wasn’t clear enough in my last reply. I am also a Packer fan but my rooting for them is on permanent hold until the failed experiment is over. If by some sheer stroke of luck, and there WON’T be one, they made the big game, I root for them to lose.
I do have to admit to being cautiously nervous that this “Viking fan” thing could stick. Favre is very obviously the catalyst for my new found team but will it last after he is gone? Dang I hope not!!
I make no apologies that my blind faith doesn’t fall in line with yours or that of anyone else.
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He took the shut down corners, as they are called, and put them in an insanely foreign role.
Note what I said in bold, I said it previously as well. Harris is way over rated. Remember how the gang banger from New York rode him like a rented mule two years ago to the tune of 190 some yards in the first half? You know, the game everyone said Favre lost for them? I do. He has been picked on this year as well. As for the Packer D being horrible last year don’t forget they had the same personnel and scheme in place from their 13-3 year. Which is it then? Were they good or were they bad?
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You guys don’t mind Rat, he is just like a woman scorned because TT got rid of Favre. He lives in WI and claims to be a Packer fan, but is a also Bears and Queens fan, so if that tells ya anything. Why not throw the Lions in there too.
So you want to try and use the mob psychology theory to build your internet power? Try and find something mildly entertaining to gain head count for “your side”. I bet you are one of them guys that gets stronger when he drinks too right?
For the record I do not claim to be a Packer fan. Until TT and McFlurry are gone I hope they lose every single game they play. I am a Bears fan, get over it. And while Favre is playing for the Vikings I will root for them to win each and every game they play. If there are some sort of rules that say a person can only have one favorite NFL team then go ahead and find someone in charge and turn me in for breaking the rules. Or maybe have a beer and try it yourself… 
We went by the “big dog means big food bill and big turds”. We decided on what I’ve wanted for 25 years, a beagle. She is such a sweetie. Ready to play at a moments notice, strong desire to hunt (we haven’t yet) and very sociable with other animals and people. We are now looking at beagle/blue heeler mix pups. I have no experience with the breeds you narrowed down to so I can’t comment on them, sorry.
You mean I left room for confusion about how I feel about TT and McFlurry? Sorry, let me “clean that up.” They are BOTH sub par at best! Simple as that. If you think I am the only one pointing out TT’s refusal to sign quality free agents then you are simply mistaken. For the last 6 years TT has fielded the youngest team in the NFL. That is NOT building for the future, period. That is NOT allowing for quality back ups, period. Anyone care to compare this duo’s three year record to winning teams such as New England or Indianapolis? Save for one year that seems now to be a fluke they have had nothing to write home about. Even with the 13-3 they are hardly above five hundred. That is middle of the road folks. And don’t forget “you know who” is to thank for the fat salary and contract extensions both TT and MM got.
So Green Bay is sneaking back into the play off race? For now I suppose that is a true enough statement. In this era of free agency I hardly call going from 13-3 to 6-10 to, if they are lucky, 9-7 this year progress. Especially after cleaning house of all the non productive coaches last year while keeping most of the same players. Will TT and McFlurry be there next year? I highly doubt it unless they at least get to the NFC Championship name. And at best they will be a one and done. If they are still there then I’m wrong and it makes it very easy to tune them out again next year. 
By the way, riddle me this. When a O coordinator takes over a team that has a running back, let’s use AP from Minny as an example, do you suppose they will want to make sure to build their offense around that person? Makes sense and any good coach will do just that. Who, if I may ask, did Dom Capers have in mind to build the Green Bay defense around? Honestly, what strength? He took the shut down corners, as they are called, and put them in an insanely foreign role. Took Kampman (check out his sack stats for specific game stretches from the previous two years and compare to the NFL leaders-then compare to this year) and changed his position and play duty thus neutering him. So what exactly did they set out to prove? Seems to be yet another example of lack of leadership right from the top. Unless the plan is to get rid of all these non 3-4 guys and replace them next year I can’t see their logic.
And while we are discussing the likes of Clay Mathews and Jermichael Finley let’s also not forget to toss in Justin Herrel, 3 years on IR and STILL on the roster. Will Blackman, again on IR because he’s never been allowed to heal from the first time. Should I even mention Barbre? And how about the big stud Willims(?) that they used a franchise tag on two years ago and then traded to the Browns for a third round pick and nothing else when the league norm is a 1st round and a compensatory later round pick. These would be non issues if the Packers were dominant. They are not.
I’m a TT hater, get used to it. I’m also, like each of you, a Monday Morning QB. I simply have no desire to sit back and defend a couple of “never was” while they continue to field sub par to average teams. Especially when people like Dungy and Cowher are out there chomping on the bit to take over a well respected team with the strong ties to talent. Enough of the experiment already, hire a real coach and GM!
Remember last week guys, Kampman suffered a concussion. Did you not catch them wiping blood from his ear yesterday? Don’t try and tell me Kampman has been playing confused all season, not even close to true! He either suffered another at some point yesterday or still has effects from last.
Before you decide to blast someone for playing Monday morning QB or GM you may also want to think back on your own posts. Anyone who discusses football does this, it is called bench racing in some circles. No matter if you agree with or disagree with a teams decisions. By discussing it you are arm chairing it.
Kampmans back up is better than Kampman? Silly me, I always thought they put the best talent on the field that gives them the best chance to win. I agree Kampman is likely to leave to greener pastures, but that will be done by his decision not the packers. And let me point out what happened when Clifton went down, the entire O line was shifted around trying to figure out who could play and at what position. Remember who Tauscher has as a back up? That’s some good depth right there! Harris is and has been over rated for at least three years. Any good QB that plays the Packers know this and they will go after him. I might point out the Minnesota games but there are others. He gave up a TD yesterday while looking for an INT instead of defending the play.
What the heck does Favre and Karma have to do with this post?
I hate to see the good ones like Kampman injured. Any injury is a PITA for that matter. But don’t fret for I’m sure TT has made sure to have some veteran back ups… 
My pick would be the .243 or the .257 Roberts. We have both and I can tell you either one is more capable than myself. I have taken game at and beyond 300 yards with each one.
Sorry GARVI, you’re going to have to be able to take it if you are willing to give it. Turn about being fair play and all. Have a great day just the same.
Well as long as I know what counts “for you” I’ll know for next time. I’ll also alert all the NFL teams that they are paying far too many player salaries out.
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Don’t you have a Bears site you could be on or does that just pump up your chest to come in here and cut down a team that has a better record than your team.
You seem hung up on the Bears. Or is it just that you don’t like that I like the Bears? For what it’s worth isn’t their a Packer site you can go commiserate at?
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You never did answer me about how that golden boy Cutler thing is working out for ya
You know that missing link that is going to make the Bears crush the NFC north.
Now I’m fairly certain you are confusing me with someone else. What the heck are you talking about? Your chest pumping analogy above seems to stem from a dope induced slumber of some sort. I’m here parading for Brett Favre, bashing the Packers, and still liking the Bears.
The Packers found a way to negate the Dallas rush? Wasn’t Rodgers sacked 4 times? While that may seem low to Packer fans this year please realize if spread out that would equal 64 sacks a season, hardly a stat that will get a O coordinator promoted to head coach.
And Garvi I think you need to recount how many players are on a team. The actual number is 53, not 22.
The Packers will end up 11-5? Not this year, sorry. If they end up above .500 they best count their blessings. That thick necked, meatheaded coach will continue to field an unprepared team and they will continue to amass penalties and sacks. Don’t forget only half the season has been played. I bet if someone repeated that to Rodgers, and had him sit and let it sink in, he’d wonder how he is going to absorb 80 sacks this season and not simply break in half. It is only a matter of time before a defensive player actually hits him hard.
I’m not well educated about ballistics or the like but I have been hunting with a .243 for over a decade. I can sum it up this way. Kills deer dead. Effective? Very. I don’t rely on knockdown power as I tend to enjoy practicing shooting and take pride in making clean kills. Not to insinuate you folks here don’t do the same but I’ve run into plenty “spray and prayers” that think you need a chunk of lead the size of a melon to kill a deer because they can’t help but shoot them in the a$$.
But I digress. When I started shooting mine at deer I selected the 55 grain bullet because most all the shots were at long distances across farm fields. At least 3 deer were taken at over 320 yards with the longest being even longer. At the longer ranges the 55 grain performed very well. My Ruger prefers the Remington green and yellow box ammo and is fine by me, it’s never let me down yet and is cheap, lol.
But I no longer shoot long distances and found out right quick that 55’s are not good at close ranges. Most of our shots are now under 100 yards. And on real close shots, say 50 yards, the 55 will come apart and go several different directions in a deer causing all sorts of mayhem. I now use 100 grain and love the performance. Again, same brand as the 55.
Hopefully this is helpful info for someone. I don’t mean to contradict any others finding, these are simply results I’ve had. Someday I hope to reload and can then play with some loads and test them on varmints. That’ll be fun!
Or maybe, and I’m just spitballing here, Dallas played so poor as to make the Packers D look that good. I’m guessing it was more of each than anyone of the other.
I’ve been laughing about this all day. Brought back memories of the pre season when fans had already bought their tickets to the Super Bowl. Don’t get too excited, remember last weeks game? And many at work said the same thing. “They are just a young team that needs time.” Yeah, youngest team 4 years in a row. And the guy that brings in players had the youngest team every year prior to arriving in Green Bay. Apparently seeing how a good free agency player can play, Charles Woodson, doesn’t register. Holding your breath waiting on this team to mature with TT at the helm will cause certain death, lol.
They might make 8-8 but again I’d not hold my breath. Sorry to be a downer, lol.
As mentioned there is an upside. finding the P/W that you thought you’d remember! Good tip just the same.
I’ll be taking my 11 year old out under the new Youth Mentored Hunting Program. We will be going on family land in Clark County. Good luck everyone, be safe! 
It sure isn’t that the Packers look solid. I’m amazed at how poor Dallas looks. Is Romo even awake? Imagine if my Bears had Dallas today, it’d end up in triple OT waiting for someone to flip a coin to proclaim a winner.
I suppose this win will keep 
away from TT and McFlurry for a few more days.
I use Live Search a lot. I’ve found Live Search to be faster than calling information with a ton more info available including driving directions. If in a big city it is invaluable for finding food joints, making sure a taxi isn’t screwing you, and so on. Also might want to try Vlingo.
The NFL is pouring more money into an already dead goat than I thought possible. I hate Thursday night games, the players hate them, and most everybody I chum with hates them. Most of us hate them because the controversy going on between the NFL and the cable companies. People like me won’t pay extra to have a channel that is viable for 8 weeks a year. The players hate the game because it makes their two play weeks to off kilter. It isn’t like they are playing a Monday night game in front of a national audience, there is no special allure for anyone.
I’d agree the first five minutes of silence could have been worse, much worse. Matt Millen, Boomer, Sharpe, Dierdork, among many others.
Don’t let anyone talk you out of a .243! Some proclaim you need knock down power when in reality you simply need to know how to aim. Don’t rely on heavy bullets to rip apart large muscles when a sweet little bullet will easily destroy the heart and lungs killing just as easily as any other caliber. I use a .243 Ruger M77 Mark II and have for 15-16 years. I’ve killed probably 18-20 deer with that gun and each was as dead as need be. I’m looking forward to using it for ‘yotes this winter too and hope to work up a couple different recipes once I get my reloading stuff and figure out how to use it. Another fine caliber, not taking away from the .243, is the .257 Roberts. I feel it is a good idea to have both, lol.
First off good for you getting your child in the field early. In Wisconsin we are able to do that as well this year and we will be taking our 11 year old out. As I recall we need a youth license here and the cost, IIRC, is $7. I’m pretty dang excited to take my boy out opening morning! 
