Okay! So I will try to comment on the first two sentences of your post, Since the rest of your comments were about a post that I mad in a different discussion.

“It appears that you would want to trespass on someone’s else launch. The reason: the inn and skiers don’t need all of launch area so you should reap from their labor.”

I’m not sure if you are trying to state that I think I, and everyone else, should be able to launch for free at Fisherman’s Inn. Because if that’s what you are saying, you couldn’t be further from the truth. My post was an attempt to give the ski team some credit, in a sea of negative posts. I have bought a season pass, for that launch, ever since I found out they sold them. And before that, I paid the launch fee every time I launched from there.

In reality, I don’t mind if the ski team is on the lake, and I don’t mind that they are based out of Fisherman’s Inn. Since my above posting, I have made a point to talk to some of the members, in particular the boat drivers (more of the fisherman should do this), and I have found that they really mean well. They try to stay away from us when we fish, but they told me that sometimes boats show up in the shadows when they weren’t there a few minutes earlier. Anyone who has been on the water, any length of time, has been surprised by boats sitting in the shadows. Enough with that, I am not writing this to stand up for the ski team.

So back to me reaping the rewards of everyone’s labors.
I don’t understand how you can sit there making assumptions about me, when you don’t even know me. I don’t even know how you deciphered my comments in the way you did! If anything, you should assume the positive, before piling on the negative. For everyone else reading this, this is what I actually said “Everyone has to agree, this is a great country! And if you don’t agree, you have that right too! Hey, and we all have the right to leave this country as well! MAN, this is a GREAT country!”.

Now I really don’t want to jump to conclusions about your comments here, or the ones you made throughout the other discussion. Instead, I just want to say, and ask; “There are two kinds of people in this world “Givers and Takers””. When you post comments in any discussion, which kind of person are you?

First of all, I hope I didn’t offend anyone with my first post, on this thread. It was not my intention to do so! All I was doing is trying to make a point that we live in a great country. Yeah, some of the things in our political system, might be a little messed up, but there isn’t another country that I would rather live in. I have read many discussions on this board, even so, this was only my second post since I joined in 2009. So if I didn’t follow some etiquette rules, would someone please let me know?

The reason I am posting this is because I just received the following comment on the first post that I made on the other discussion:
” It appears that you would want to trespass on someone’s else launch. The reason: the inn and skiers don’t need all of launch area so you should reap from their labor. After reading your second post it appears that you are just a jerk off with an extreme psdo intelligence. Let me quote you “if you don.’t like what I said or what I am going to say get off this board and then get the f out of my country GOt IT”

I’ll skip the first two sentences! They are comments about my post on the other thread that I posted comments on, and I am still trying to understand the points being made. Its been a while since I made that post, so I might need to read the entire discussion to figure it out.

As far as the rest of the comments about my second post, here on this thread. I read through my post again, and I guess I could have worded the ending a little different. I am guessing that this person was referencing my statement “Everyone has to agree, this is a great country!”. Maybe they don’t like our country, and they thought that I was demanding that everyone must think that this is a great country. I was trying to get across that if you live in this country, and if you have been to, or even researched other countries, you would agree that the US is a great country. But, if you don’t think that this is a great country, you have the right to think that way too. We also have the right, or ability to move to just about any other country that we want to, if we so choose. I was not trying to be sarcastic, but as I read it again, I can see how someone might take it that way.

Big G:
Thank you for the comments on my post. As far as the double standard, you could be right. I would ask, somewhat tongue in cheek, did you try to get the laws changed allowing you to harvest unlimited walleye? Guess my point is, that it takes a lot of work to get laws like this changed. If you can get enough backing, from enough people, and get enough politicians to take notice, you might be able to get the law changed. I have no doubt that there was a lot of work done to get the politicians to go along with killing of eagles.. Even though I find it very hard to believe that killing Bald Eagles would be a winning platform to run on, some politicians somewhere, must have felt that the gain to them out weighed the loss (probably in the way of votes). So, find out who brought the law forward, and then who voted for it, and start a campaign to get them out of office.

As far as the dates, in the past I had to do some research on Bald Eagles, and what caused their numbers to decline. But that’s a different topic!

Ihprop1:
Yeah, 19550 give or take a few thousand years! lol

So, How many of you would throw a fit if our wonderful government decided to make the turkey the national bird of the US, and outlawed the killing of them? I know I would! How many of you would still find a way to have that Thanksgiving, or Christmas turkey, thereby breaking the law? Do you think there would be people lobbying to get the law changed? Then, 70 years later, when the government finally listened to the lobbyists, and started granting permits to harvest turkeys, would you would be celebrating? Would you be telling the people protesting the permits to mind their own business? Would you be telling these people that years ago, it was a custom that you had to give up, and you should be free to follow your customs? Heck, you could eat Spam instead of turkey!

The Northern Arapaho have, for centuries, “offered an eagle to the creator” (Creator? hmmm! I’m not going to get into a religion discussion here, but everyone has the freedom to practice the religion of their choice). They used a Bald Eagle for many of the same reasons the United States made it the national bird, back in 1782, “because of its long life, great strength and majestic looks”. If I remember my history correctly, it wasn’t until the 1940’s that it became illegal to hunt Bald Eagles. So, even though I would never kill an eagle, or hawk for that matter, I can see why the Northern Arapaho people would want to go back to following a custom that was taken away from them only decades ago. I would venture to guess that these same people don’t want to see the Bald Eagle end up back on the endangered species list,. Everything I have read on this topic tells me that the people performing these rituals, have a lot of respect for Bald Eagles. In fact, from what I can tell, their respect for the birds is the very reason they use them in their rituals. I would have to believe that the people who are using the birds in rituals, probably don’t want to have them end up on the endangered species list again, it would just end up shutting off their eagle supply.

Some of the posts here would lead us to believe that the government is favoring the Native Americans with this decision. Even if you see it this way, who was being favored when the eagle protection acts were put in place back in the 40’s (Bald Eagles were not put on the endangered species list until the late 60’s, early 70’s)? Be carful, before you say that the laws favored the eagles, think about all of the other hunting that goes on in this country. Should we put laws in place to favor, turkeys, deer, fish (can you say peta)? Again, if I am remembering my history correctly, there were around 100,000 Bald Eagles killed, in Alaska, from around 1920 through 19550. The fisherman’s fear was that the eagles were a threat to the salmon population. My guess is that no one was in Alaska, protesting!

So, the way I see it is, now that Bald Eagles are off of the endangered species list, why shouldn’t permits be given to the Arapaho people, giving them the ability to do what was taken away from them back in the 40’s? And don’t say, “well they are being killed needlessly”, because there are a lot of people who would say that all sorts of animals are needlessly being killed all the time. Do you think Donald Trump’s sons ate the elephant they recently shot in Zimbabwe? Don’t get me wrong here, I am just using this to make the point! If hunting elephants in Zimbabwe is your thing, go for it!

The great thing about this country is that you have the right to disagree with me, or any other person in this country. But, we shouldn’t be hammering on the Native American people (in this case the Arapaho people) for celebrating, and using the new law. They weren’t the ones who passed it, they just lobbied for it, and were able to get the right people to hear them.. If you don’t agree with the law, don’t spend your time complaining about it, use your energy to get people to send letters to congress. Sign petitions! Get your views heard. If people in the government don’t listen to you, let them know you will vote for someone else in the next election. This is the United States Of America! You have the right to stand up for what you believe in! Its kind of ironic, the very thing that we see the Bald Eagle standing for, in this country, allows laws like this to be passed. Everyone has to agree, this is a great country! And if you don’t agree, you have that right too! Hey, and we all have the right to leave this country as well!

MAN, this is a GREAT country!

I was pointed to this forum by a buddy of mine, and am browsing through a lot of postings. I am normally not one to post replies/comments on forums, and I realize that this thread is kind of old, but I wanted to make a comment on something.
As much as it pains me, I have to point out at least one fact in minnesotakid’s statements! I happened to be down at Fisherman’s Inn while the ramp was being repaired. I had heard that the water was way down, and decided to go take a look for my self. There was quite a bit of activity on the ramp, so being kind of nosey, I started talking to some of the people who were working on the ramp. What I found out was that the owner of Fisherman’s Inn, was paying for all the materials, and the ski team was doing all the work. If I would have read this thread before going down to the ramp last fall, I could have asked about a few more of kid’s statements (maybe next time). Maybe everyone else knows this, but there is one other thing that I found out. All of the docks at Fisherman’s Inn, are owned by the ski team. I must say that I am happy that those docks are there, I really hate beaching my boat. The other thing I think we need to be carful with is making the comment that the ski team thinks they own the lake. This may be, but the ski team only has a few boats, and they are only on the lake at certain times. I personally think there is a way bigger problem with all the other boaters, jetskis, and how about the tubers?