eyeguy507 wrote:

Now that this perchy bite is no longer a secret I have a couple questions:

How did they get so big so fast?

What is the consensus depth to target perch?

I’m guessing there isn’t much C&R going on with these and they are in 30 feet or more. That accurate?

We always did best 28′ and deeper. It’s best if your fishing the soft stuff. PS this doesn’t always mean the mud although they are there too.

Same as anything. If you want good ones, you have to fish where it hasn’t been hammered. Get on something that hasn’t been beat up, get off of the structure and go to work, on em.

Doesn’t really matter to me, but if you get on a bite like that, pounding away at it will make it tougher for you in the future. Very similar to overhunting a deer stand or shooting up a roost waterfowl hunting.

Get in, do your business and get out will keep that bite going a lot longer than sitting there and beating up on them.

That said, everybody is free to do what they want and it doesn’t really bother me. I just laugh though when someone hammers them day in and day out and then says: “they quit biting”. No, they didn’t quit, you just took all the biters out or pressured them too hard and now they are wise to you.

candiru wrote:

I wonder also if the boomer generation is aging out of their toys? They don’t use them anymore and the number of young people replacing them in outdoor activities isn’t as high. An example, the average age of deer hunters is about 60. Deer hunting could look very different in a few years.

Might be, but I think prices are just so high on almost everything that there isn’t much money left to spend much on toys anymore. Especially those with a family.

Until taxes, insurance on everything, gas and food come down some, this will likely continue for quite some time I would think.

Anyfish2 wrote:

Brand new 80-100K boats must not be flying off the showroom floors! Repowering with a new engine is a second option to used or rebuilding? And the companies cant allow inventory to get too high or they will lose profit by marking down prices. This may be temporary, however, i dont see a big jump back up for awhile with the economy at a bit of a stand still. Maybe the election will fire things up some?

I doubt it until interest rates fall back in line. No one buys boats in that price range with cash. Until they can finance them for eternity again, they will sit.
Time for some of these companies to get back in line with what this stuff is really worth, not what you can gouge someone to pay on a 20 year loan.

Check the gap from your AC clutch to compressor. I just did this to mine. Basically if you pull that clutch plate off, there are shims in it and over time that clutch/plate will wear. Pulled out one of the shims put the plate back on and it works all the time now.

Easy way to check, use a broomstick or something push on that plate, see if get cold air that way.

If you search this on the web there are some videos, etc explaining what I just said better than I did. LOL

Dutchboy wrote:

It’s not the lawyers job to determine if his / her client is guilty. His / her job is to provide the best defense possible for his / her client.

Nobody can deny that his legal team created quite the circus and did their job.

Not in the eyes of the law, but in my eyes, they are scum. Got rich off it too. Congrats scumbags.

Probably going to rot in hell along with all the lawyers that got him off. I don’t know who is worse, the guy that killed his wife, or all the lawyers that knew darn well he did and got rich for getting him out of it.

The guy is crazy and you shouldn’t just go around killing dogs. But if you let your dog bark all day and night you are also an idiot.

Eelpoutguy wrote:

Radon = biggest scam pulled on the American public since man made global warming.

Agreed. An entire economy made out of thin air. We had to “pay a professional” to install one in the last house we sold as the buyer didn’t want me to do it myself and this was a sticking point for the sale.

Ripjiggen wrote:

That is a real weird thing to make a person feel good.

And no boat prices are not half the value as they were a couple of years ago. That sir is not happening.

Alot of these folks are the reason you alot of people couldn’t or wouldn’t upgrade in the last few years. So yes, I makes me feel good that these guys are getting what’s coming to them and it in turn is bringing the market back to where it should be. Lots of guys owning a boat and flipping it 2 years later for close to what they bought it for. Good for them, but that’s over.

Maybe not 50% drop but used boats that were fetching 50-ish a little while ago are looking under 40k right now. That is a huge difference, probably closer to 25% actually.

Now us regular folks, or guys that might be a little more sensical, tight, whatever you want to call it can go and get something that we won’t lose our behinds on or have to finance forever.

waldo9190 wrote:

Going to need those bats to wake up a bit if we want to get by Houston.

Did you watch our pitching staff? 1 run in 2 games. THEY are going to have to get some barrels on balls and past our defense. Flat out there isn’t any pressure on us anymore. Twins are going to beat them in 4 games.

I do agree with a little more offense, but in the playoffs, pitching wins and we have some of the best. Now with guys healthy and a few starters in the bullpen that can pitch at max effort for an inning also, Twins are ROCK SOLID on the hill. Heck, yesterday every guy that came into the game after Sonny threw at least 1 pitch over 100 mph. We have some HAMMERS out there now.

isu22andy wrote:

I’d bet there’s more 100k boats on payments than ones not . There’s a bunch of people financed up to their eyeballs to keep up with the joneses . I take pride in my scratched up bloody beat up rig . She floats and catches fish . I ain’t got no time to spend wiping her down at the end of the day so the sparkles shine , I got fishing to do .

100% correct. 90% of those boats are financed and some for up to 30 years. There are very very few people that can afford a boat in that 60-120K range with cash.

Dutchboy wrote:

Why does everybody worry about how people spend their own money? Nobody is asking you to spend yours. I could care less if your boat is beat to pieces or if it costs $20. It’s yours, not mine. If a guy wants to scratch a check or finance 100 grand it’s not my money and I don’t care. Personally I prefer a fiberglass boat for whatever reason. I’ll spend what I want, when I want, and on what I want.

I think there was a thread not long ago where people said to watch their own bobber.

I agree but it makes me feel good to see alot of guys right now choking on these big loans with variable interest rates. Now their 65-100K boat is worth 35-55K and they can’t move it and the chickens are coming home to roost. Lot of ding dongs inflated these prices now it’s gonna hurt.

Big shots and/ or youtube heros takin er in the shorts. Nothing wrong with that.

My daughter went through this same type of thing with her different club softball teams.

The first thing I would ask him is if there is ANY thought or chance he might want to play college ball?

After reading your last post here saying he is the fastest kid on his team, a great athlete, etc. I might have chosen to challenge him.

When it comes to development, IMO, being the best on the team or the worst on the team is not where you want to be. If you feel your kid is in that middle of the team range, then he is probably on the right team.

If he is flat out dominating, that isn’t doing him a ton of good development wise if in fact he has aspirations to play after high school. It WILL however have him gain all kinds of confidence and if that is an issue, then letting him be the best for awhile can be a good thing too.

All this said, in the end it’s about having fun and making boys into men, etc. Probably can’t go wrong as long as the team chemistry and coach are good.

supercat wrote:

I guess I don’t understand politics nor do I want to. I am all for helping people out but jeez if I was in debt like we are why do we keep throwing debt on??

Because it isn’t the politicians money. It is yours and mine. Also, part of that is coming back to these same politicians. It is basically just a place to launder tax dollars. They don’t really care about Ukraine, they care about getting rich off the taxpayer and they are able to hide their corruption by washing it through Ukraine first.

eyeguy507 wrote:

want a P4 trophy? go in March/April and October-November

want great fishing? go in May-June

want to suffer in the heat and struggle? go July-Sept. Sunsets are pretty epic tho
for crappie pike or bass.

July is some of my favorite fishing on the river. Not as many guys out, current is low and stable, seems fish are easier to pin down. Multiple species are in play.

HATE the prespawn circus bite. Million guys around, fish are sluggish, yes they are fat, mud water, moving constantly. Favorite time for me is late April-first part of August.

Advil. Or now they make this stuff that is ibuprofin and non-aspirin mixed.

Or, Mask up!, get your vax!, social distance!, wash your hands!, use sanitizer!, make sure you test!, contact trace!

Fauci would also like a phone call if you’re willing?

KP wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Pig-hunter wrote:</div>
Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max.

I smell a troll here!

The Badgers will have some learning curves of course with a new system and quite a few transfers but Fickell is a proven coach and has brought in a great staff. Pig Hunter please DM me because I will for sure take the over that the Badgers will have more than 6 wins. Lets make a bet!

Back to the Gophers I think it will be interesting to see how the offense is different this year. I think they will beat Nebraska but it will be a close game. I wonder if Nebraska will have half the stadium filled of their fans?

LOL. Nope, they were 6-6 last year and lucky to be that. Now they have a new system. Love watching you sconnies squirm. Honestly, the best thing that happened to your team was Mertz leaving. He was a godsend to the rest of the conference. Just a terrible QB.

PS You were ranked 18th to start the year last year too and were basically a Big Ten cupcake.

Hey, if you get more than that, good for you. But there’s a good chance you get less also! Have a fun season Skunk fans.

I stand by my statement. New system. It’s year ZERO. Remember…LOL They probably win 7-8, but picking them to win the conference is mainly just going off their past glory. The last few years they haven’t been very good and now they have a whole new system to learn.

I just don’t think they will be great. Iowa, Illinois, MN. Those 3 fighting for the West.

Dutchboy wrote:

Flecks record is built on the cupcake schedules and his 11 win year with the players he inherited when hired. I don’t care what the other big 18 teams do or the SEC. This is a thread about Fleck.

He probably is a nice guy.
His players maybe go to school and stay out of trouble.
But he isn’t walking on water nor is the team leaps and bounds better than when he got here.

Oh, lets not forget that he and his predecessor’s have the luxury of recruiting to the largest metropolitan (next to Northwestern & Chicago) area in the big 18 with the most fortune 500 company’s.

You obviously aren’t around or follow football much. Minnesota’s high school D1 prospects are generally some of, if not the lowest rated in the country.

PS why don’t you look back the Big Ten record throughout Minnesota’s history and tell us where PJ stands winning percentage wise…

If we can beat Iowa and Illinois this year, we win the West. Wisconsin will be bad this season. Expect 6 wins max. Same with Nebraska.

PJ’s team’s are generally IN every game. I don’t think we will beat Michigan or Ohio State, but it would not surprise me one bit if they got one of them.

7-9 wins is what I would expect. Starts tonight. I hope they kill Nebraska. Just a disaster of a program they are.

fishthumper wrote:

I am not all that much of a college football fan. I am not much of a Fleck fan either. The gophers have always been and are still a Average big 10 team at the best. I get tired of hearing that it hard to recruit in Minnesota Because of the weather and such. Like its so much better in Michigan, Wisc, and Iowa.

Doesn’t have a ton to do with weather. Has alot to do with Minnesota High School football is some of the worst in the entire country and that is coming from someone that both played and coached it.

Thanks for the report!

I think we will need some rain and flow to get fish up out of the lake into the upper river this year or it won’t be as good up in there IMO.

The amount of people out there. Lakes are overrun. Especially with rookie type anglers.

Ice fishing isn’t what it used to be. Hard to be on fish by yourself anymore. Not as much fun for me IMO.

shockers wrote:

Yes. That’s why I hesitate to post updates.

I appreciate reports like you just gave. It’s tough right now, period.

Even guys that are putting together a bag are fighting their butts off for them. That is a fact. Is there going to be someone that whacks them during a tough bite? Every single time SOMEONE will on a water as good as the Mississippi river is.

Don’t feel bad, most are not “whacking” them right now.

You also have to remember something. These guys that put together good days most likely did it fishing a couple 8-10 hour days. Quite a difference in being able to put together a bite than yourself going and fishing half a day.

Thanks for the report!!

FishBlood&RiverMud wrote:

I question these statements. Are those made up statements or do you have specific instances that you did not act upon. I ask that pointedly because of the strong feeling against it, yet the frequency in which people claim to know it is very abundant. Panfish limits are larger than other species, and a “Pile” of fish photo, can easily drive perceptions of WALKING CORMORANTS. For some, perception is considered reality and that is becoming more true everyday in OUR SOCIETY.

No, I see it happen in our area, southern Minnesota. The same people year after year. It only takes 10 good hooks hitting it every day to affect a population. There aren’t countless supplies of large panfish in every lake.

Winter fishing is what kills it. Lots of guy laid off they can hammer away all day every day. And no enforecment.

And what do you mean about not act on it? Have you ever called the TIP line? 99% of the time it doesn’t result in anything. Drives me nuts.

suzuki wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Andy Fiolka wrote:</div>
Lastly, it’s 2021. Why does the success of a fishing trip still depend on putting the knife to a pile of dead fish? Again, just my opinion. Nothing more- nothing less.

Sometimes it just does if you like fish meat. The year has nothing to do with it. Its no different than hunting and there is no C&R there. There’s Nothing like fresh fish you harvested yourself. Its a deep down feeling of accomplishment and survival. Your eating a rare item that few get to sample. The key is intelligence and restraint. Especially when you have a good bite figured out.

See that is the problem right there. The key you said is intelligence and restraint. Over 50% of anglers don’t have that.

Panfish are too dumb and easy. When you get on them, generally you can take all you want. They need protection from the freezer fillers, guys that go back day in and day out, etc.

Do I necessarily like the 5 fish limits? No, but unfortunately, there are just too many people that have no restraint and are basically walking cormorants that ruin it for the rest of us.

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mr.Beads wrote:</div>

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>BigWerm wrote:</div>
in general most serious anglers or semi-pro anglers could compete if given the same resources. I

Hence the reason they are on another level. They most likely aren’t given those resources, they are earned.

Sure some are. Most “pro” walleye anglers are still self funded to a certain extent. Particularly if you get into the regional tournaments it’s almost all guys who have successful businesses that allows them the time and money needed to compete. I’m not bashing them, if my life allowed it I would probably consider it myself, but it’s just the facts. The general public often thinks if you fish tourneys or appear on TV that you are raking in the $, and it just doesn’t work that way. Some are, but they are the minority, most tournament anglers are losing money if you did a true audit (Boat, gas, lodging, time off work, food etc.)

This is correct. Most of these guys made a pile doing something else and fish for fun. Good on them.

Also, just so everyone knows, at least in the walleye world, there is nothing holding anyone back from being in a “professional” walleye tournament. Put up the entry, throw your hat in the ring and you are in.

All of that said, heck yes there are quite a few guys that stand out and are true pros. But on any given professional walleye tournament roster, over half the guys are no different than you and I. Good hooks in their own right for sure, but nothing that separates them from what you were calling Avid fisherman here other than an entry fee and the guts to go after it.

How’s it looking up there men, freezing up?, landings? MN river is starting to freeze up on us around here, might have to move over to the big river now.

Brad Dimond wrote:

So farmers shouldn’t get to vote – approximately 40% of farm income in much of the U.S. comes from farm subsidies. Many other industries are subsidized in some form, be it direct payments, tax credits, tax deductions, tax exemptions (see Foxconn as an example) – should people working in those industries not get a vote?

They own a homestead now don’t they.