I WENT OUT THIS WEEKEND AND CAUGHT 12 PERCH IN 12HRS. U CAN TAKE THAT FOR WHAT ITS WORTH. ABOUT THE ICE BEING SAFE WE DROVE OUT THERE SUNDAY THE 8TH, BUT I AM NOT TELLING U THAT ITS IS COMPLETELY SAFE YOU MAKE YOUR OWN CHOICE. THERE IS STILL A STRONG 11IN BUT A SHORT 12 OF ICE OUT THERE. I HAVE A CAMERA AND I COULD SEE TONS OF PERCH BUT MOST OF THEM WOULD COME UP TO MY BAIT TAKE THE TAIL IN AND SPIT IT OUT AND GO ON THEIR WAY.