Sounds like M F should invite Jimmy S down to his place.
Definitely looking for no pity. I am at 72 sits year to date on just under 2,000 acres of Ag / mix woods – again with VERY little pressure if any besides me. But there is something amiss. I hope I am wrong – but seeing the decline year over year (in my area) is a concern of mine. And I will always agree there are areas with WAY too many deer.
72 sits – 2 mature bucks and 5 mature does.
https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/mammals/deer/management/statistics.html
Definitely interesting to look at each zone and the total deer kills / buck to doe kill ratio, etc.
I think the most interesting to me is the DNR continues to have the “kill em all” attitude in the 600 zones – but the kill doesn’t come close to the zones just above the cities.
I agree Bearcat 100%. Sadly there are a couple groups right in my backyard consisting of 20 plus each yr 2nd season starting this Saturday that shoot up to 60 deer a year with a “brown it’s down” mentality
You missed my point Jeremy but I can see how it was misconstrued. In our area the population is significantly down. Many of the long-term area hunters also know and see this and are taking the same approach you are. So am I. However – on the other hand there are plenty of hunters that know the population is dwindling – but take all they can – because they can at the moment – only to be the same ones that complain (I hear it now in the next few years) that they are not seeing any deer. Hence – why not be proactive (don’t have to shot and fill every tag because we can).
Deer harvest as of 11/18/24 sits at 139,134.
I feel sorry for the deer new CWD zones where hunters not only are able to hunt the 3A zone – but also now the 3B zone. Another 9 days of hammering the population. Then onto Muzzleloader and Special late season.
I will say it again and speaking for Zone 642. The population continues to be pulverized due to the DNR’s CWD “kill em all” approach.
We DON’T, as hunters – have to pull the trigger just because we can.
72 morning and evening sits and finally saw my 5th adult doe. To say there isn’t a problem is being part of the problem.
Yup. Hardly anyone knows that so I’m forgetting to tell others 
I’m not gonna partake. Deer are wore out enough IMO
This is to what is concerning Jimmy Jones and Haley’s Gold – MANY PEOPLE think they can use their 642 A season main tags the same during B season….
PS: seen my first mature doe after dozens and dozens of sits. I let it walk. Haley’s Gold knows my areas I hunt so he can tell/see my frustrations
Hey Jimmy Jones! I hunt over by Oak Center with over 1,000 acres to hunt (fortunately). Most farms have zero pressure except me. One has minimal for 360 acres. This am hunt 64. Use to see deer every sit and a great mix of bucks and does. This year less than a handful of does (one hand) mind you ALL between the sits whereas wasn’t uncommon to see 5 – 19 a sit! Something is askew. I see in 642 so far almost 500 bucks have been shot. 250 does only. That says something and if this trend continues, and doe populations low, coyote deprivation in the near future will take even a bigger toll (few does/fawns mean even more chance for coyotes to take out remaining). I am concerned. Have been and very vocal about it.
I’m still upset with the DNR’s “Kill em All” approach. Literally in 642 we can gun hunt from opening weekend through late December. Ridiculous and hope many more like me won’t!!
I agree
Right on BigWerm!!
Good stuff all! I do know the DNR is in a no-win situation. We hunters have just as much say in the “kill em all” plan as the DNR every time we squeeze the trigger.
If you would read – my use of smart isn’t individualized. There are smart “decisions” and not-so smart “decisions. You personally will not accept meeting anywhere in the middle when it is something viewed as “political”. Not me and the world needs more of us – like there use to be to solve problems. Not constantly complain.
Onward for me
It’s not a friggen tax spend!! Its people that voluntarily spend THEIR money on lottery tickets, etc.!
It’s no different than if one personally spends THEIR money – after taxes at a bar!!
They are spending it the way they want to spend it! The government isn’t making them!
See Big-G – maybe I am smart enough to figure that out if you are are so inclined to judge one’s knowledge level!!
I will take something over nothing…
The money is going to be spent somewhere. At least there is still, a lot of money going towards projects that benefit OUR outdoor passions. Why else would you be on this site if the outdoors wasn’t a passion of yours?? Proving a point to end up with nothing is about as smart as they don’t come!
Been in my bow stand every evening during youth hunt in an area that sees its fair share of kiddos in the woods (which I think is great). One shot is all I heard. It will be interesting where the tally stands after this weekend……
Prayers for everyone down there. The last few weeks have seen too many lives and propertys devastated.
I am amazed how many goofballs are saying this is all a conspiracy and these are planned weather attacks (seeding, etc.) on red states to sway the elections. Sad to say the least.
I have planted over 30 at my place just up the road from you. I get most at Menards in all honesty but sometimes Fleet Farm has some blazing good deals. Actually just had 6′ peach trees delivered through the mail from Home Depot.
How I did it I purchased multiple of each apple tree (self pollinating) that drop at different times (early to late droppers). It makes a BIG difference. Zestars, Honey Crisp, Delicious, Whitneys to have a few.
I keep trunk covers on for a few years, and then use 6′ chicken wire about 4′ diameter and put around holding in place with tent stakes.
I also recommend every fall and spring for at least a few years to pound in those fertilizer stakes per direction. Makes a big difference. Then mulch around also to keep moisture in during dry times and weeds down to a minimum
For the uniformed Social Media Keyboard warriors: There has never been cat litter put in a school.
This is what is destroying this country – people believing the crap they see on Social Media as the truth!!
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What I see now, even on Lake Pepin is this: historic and excellent 3-way and trolling locations, where EVERYONE HISTORICALLY, has been on the same page and traveled in same methodology , etc. are now blocked by a few of these individuals, that pull into the pack, spot lock, and use their new toy. The words are a flying out there for sure! VERY disrespectful.So you are saying if you fish in this area, you must troll, in line and same direction as everyone else?
If I am new to the area and fish it different (not necessarily FFS) I am a bad egg?
Just trying to make sure I am reading it correctly.
No – not what I meant at all and sorry for the confusion. What we are seeing is 10 boats can be 3-waying a point / small flat for example and someone pulls in, spot locks and then using their FFS – thus not allowing all the trollers to continue doing what they were doing – for hours prior.
At the Rush – I have had it three times now where everyone was trolling the break – and work together. Then all of a sudden someone shows up, drops their spot lock, and uses their FFS. What happens? Everyone was working together – and that is now out the door because of a singular individual not respecting others and what they were doing.
What I see now, even on Lake Pepin is this: historic and excellent 3-way and trolling locations, where EVERYONE HISTORICALLY, has been on the same page and traveled in same methodology , etc. are now blocked by a few of these individuals, that pull into the pack, spot lock, and use their new toy. The words are a flying out there for sure! VERY disrespectful.
One of the “irreplaceable’s” for sure.
The fishing is fantastic and the response for teams that are going to sign up on Saturday morning is great! We expect a heck of a turnout for this special event. If you are still interested and want more info – please call me at 651-448-3255. See many of you on Saturday AM!!!
I have this same thing and only pops up on mole mounds / gopher hills after I take them out. It grows faster on the exposed dirt than your regular grass and the round circles are the result for me.
We are a go! All feedback I am getting is no wake will be off. All launch’s open. We are at 30 plus now and fully expect 55 plus boats. Great time for a great cause!!
Fools…..???
While you are on your self imposed pedestal – to hell with special speed limits through work zones; road closures due to flooding; closures due to blizzards; want me to keep going? You government conspiracy theorists / extremists (both sides)are the reason this country is going to crap!!
Time to go out on Pool 4, enjoy the peacefulness of a full no-wake zone while and put the smack down on the Waldo’s. Tight lines.
In all my life I’ve never seen the Cost Guard close the river to recreational boating like this. This is another over step of “authority” by a government agency that needs it’s wings clipped. Talk about trampling on people’s Rights, here is another example of it. This is just like closing all business during COVID. When is enough, enough and we take back our country. I don’t need the government telling me what is safe and what isn’t and I’m betting neither do any of you. We all know the water is high and dangerous. That’s why we aren’t out there. Back off big brother….
So you think it’s ok to damage personal property, fragile ecosystems, on and on. “Come on man – get off your self righteous podium”!!!
Yes! Just think of a wakeboard boat lapping waves at your doorstep, fish cleaning houses, trees that are now on waters edge or standing in the water.
Isn’t that the truth!! Was out last night fishing and weekend/holiday warriors didn’t give a crap about no wake zone
Didn’t our forefathers use wind windmills)to pump water? Sure seemed efficient to me 
Hydro for milling grain?
You DON’T need electricity even for basic needs. We just have come accustomed to it.
There are methods to generate less non-Renewable energy. Why wouldn’t you want this???
