Zebra mussels (ais)

  • matt
    Posts: 659
    #1630349

    Dont have a link to the article or know how to post it even if I did but it was produced by the Star Truibune yesterday I believe.They are going to be dumping some pesticides in Lake Minnetonka to combat zebra mussels.Sounds like some of the same chemicals used in Christmas Lake that did nothing.As far as I know there has not been a body of water in the country that has been completely decimated by zebras,but I am willing to bet there are many that have been ruined by pesticides.Grrr,what a waste of time and money all for something that will likely not work to begin with,disgusting to say the least.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18623
    #1630351

    After they peaked in the Croix several years ago I haven’t even heard of them being an issue.

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11929
    #1630357

    Like most things – The solution they come up with for something, will most likely end up causing even worse problems than the original problem

    Jon Jordan
    Keymaster
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 6019
    #1630363

    Here is a link to the story:

    http://www.startribune.com/new-tactic-in-the-fight-against-zebra-mussels-will-be-tested-on-lake-minnetonka/387884492/

    New tactic in the fight against zebra mussels will be tested on Lake Minnetonka
    Pesticide could slow spread of invasive larvae.
    By Kelly Smith Star Tribune
    JULY 22, 2016 — 10:12AM
    The science lab is moving to Lake Minnetonka.
    To protect the waters of the Twin Cities’ largest and most popular lake from invasive species, researchers are using Minnetonka as the testing ground for a new study. Crews this week started testing low doses of a copper-based pesticide on zebra mussel larvae — called “veligers” — to kill them off and slow their spread.
    It’s the first study of its kind in Minnesota or nationally, and the latest effort in the battle against the state’s proliferating mussels.
    The results could help public agencies and lake advocates control the spread of the invasives on other lakes across Minnesota, shifting the focus from killing off all the pests to keeping their numbers at bay.
    “People don’t even think about it this way — the strategy is new,” said Michael McCartney, a researcher and assistant professor at the Minnesota Aquatic Invasive Species Research Center. “You can knock them back a lot.”
    Researchers from the center and the Minnehaha Creek Watershed District are conducting the experiment, using the pesticide on six test areas. The study is funded by a $24,000 grant from Hennepin County, part of $325,000 in state funding that the county received for aquatic invasive species grants.
    This week, crews are doing the first of three tests in Robinson’s Bay in Deephaven, taking water samples to see how many of the microscopic veligers died from the copper applied the day before.
    They’ll repeat the tests next month, looking to see how low a dose is most effective at killing off the veligers.
    “It has a lot of promise if it can be successful,” said Eric Fieldseth, program manager for the watershed’s aquatic invasive species program.
    While the growth of the mussels has led some to feel the fight is futile, researchers counter that there remain many uninfested lakes in Minnesota.
    This week’s tests could help experts control the zebra mussel population in lakes that either aren’t fully infested like Minnetonka or that have enclosed bays where the pesticide can’t easily spread.
    That could reduce the effect they have on the environment — and perhaps cut back on the money spent to do so.
    It’s a way to go on the offensive, while boaters continue state-required prevention efforts such as rinsing and draining boats.
    “You wouldn’t look to eradicate a lake this size, but you’d look to reduce the population,” McCartney said, as his crew plied the waters of Lake Minnetonka. “It really nails these larvae.”
    ‘Not too late’
    The copper-based product, along with two other chemicals, was used to kill off mussels on neighboring Christmas Lake. But zebra mussels were later found outside of the treated area.
    The fingernail-sized pest, which has become the poster child for aquatic invasive species, alters ecosystems. It crowds out native mussels and competes with other aquatic creatures for food.
    Mussels also cling to boat hulls and docks, and their sharp shells create a hazard for swimmers.
    More than 200 waterways in Minnesota are infested — including Lake Minnetonka since 2010 — with zebra mussels either in the water or closely connected to an infested waterway.
    But the state says that’s still less than 2 percent of Minnesota lakes.
    Earlier this year, a watershed district study found that about 200,000 zebra mussels per square meter cover the bottom of just one of Minnetonka’s bays — Wayzata Bay — where they thrive on the water’s moderate algae levels and affect its quality.
    Now, researchers say, they might be able to pinpoint when zebra mussels start to change a lake’s ecology.McCartney will take water samples from Lake Minnetonka to test the pesticide’s effect.
    “It’s not too late for Minnetonka,” McCartney said. “One thing to say is ‘That’s it, it’s all over,’ or you can reduce the negative impact.”
    Minnetonka, the epicenter for boating in the Twin Cities, also has become the hub of groundbreaking research on invasive species.
    In addition to the copper pesticide study, University of Minnesota researchers, a lake marina owner and boat manufacturer are looking at how boat designs could reduce how much water is left in places on the boat, like live wells that don’t fully drain and which may permit veligers to spread when the boat is used on other lakes.
    The watershed district and the U also are planning to partner with the U.S. Geological Survey later this year to do a lab evaluation of four different pesticides on zebra mussels from Lake Minnetonka.
    And the watershed district is studying the genetic composition of hybrid milfoil on five of the lake’s bays while wrapping up a study of common carp in the Six Mile Creek Subwatershed to Halsted’s Bay on the lake.
    “We’re really on the cutting edge of this,” said Telly Mamayek, spokeswoman for the watershed district. “We have a living lab right in our backyard.”

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #1630372

    From a fishing standpoint the fishing in waters infested has not gotten any worse,nor have I heard of zebra mussels killing other species or people like pesticides can and do.Our lakes and rivers allready have enough pollution and runoff related issues why add more.I thought the governor was supposed to be protecting waters with his new clean water bill.Apparantly he is ok with dumping pesticides in waters tho,possibly undoing any good that may have been done by his bill to begin with.Unreal.

    hl&sinker
    Inactive
    north fowl
    Posts: 605
    #1630381

    What better way to test a pesticide than on sight testing, like they say they can always adjust the potency from trial and error.

    “We have a living lab right in our backyard.”

    Time to call your represenatives and put a stop to this experimental testing on our lakes.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #1630385

    “In addition to the copper pesticide study, University of Minnesota researchers, a lake marina owner and boat manufacturer are looking at how boat designs could reduce how much water is left in places on the boat, like live wells that don’t fully drain and which may permit veligers to spread when the boat is used on other lakes.”….Star Tribune

    Notice how the emphasis has been placed on fishing boats? Instead of using a live-well as an example, this reporter could just as easily said boats that don’t fully drain and….. With all the boats coming and going on Lake Minnetonka why is it that reports and associations target only angler crafts? The people with the docks and moored watercrafts on that lake do more to help out the aeebs than anything else. Its tiresome to see the anglers getting hung on this issue all the time.

    Also from the same Star and Trib article…. “Earlier this year, a watershed district study found that about 200,000 zebra mussels per square meter cover the bottom of just one of Minnetonka’s bays — Wayzata Bay — where they thrive on the water’s moderate algae levels and affect its quality.” Of course the mussel density will be higher where the water is riper, or as the article suggests, the algae levels are “moderate”. Why does this bay in particular have water with higher algae levels than other areas of the lake? It certainly couldn’t come from fertilizers applied to lawns along the lake shores could it.

    I think before any studies on pesticides that are not fully proven are used in Minnetonka, some serious testing of soils on ALL of the home-sites inside the district in mention gets done to see maybe if even a casual rain-shower might not be putting enough growth hormones in the water via run off that the answer to the zeeb problem might not lie stopping the fertilizing taking place there. If these critters are eating the algae, look at getting rid of the causes that create excess algae, but certainly don’t go messing with dumping un-tried poisons in the lake’s water unless an agreement is reached that if the poison backfires and kills the lake, those who did the adding and those who wanted this done are fully and solely responsible for the lake’s rehabilitation, NOT THE TAXPAYERS.

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #1630661

    Sent out some emails the other day,have not had one response.Not suprising.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2513
    #1630740

    “In addition to the copper pesticide study, University of Minnesota researchers, a lake marina owner and boat manufacturer are looking at how boat designs could reduce how much water is left in places on the boat, like live wells that don’t fully drain and which may permit veligers to spread when the boat is used on other lakes.”….Star Tribune

    Notice how the emphasis has been placed on fishing boats? Instead of using a live-well as an example, this reporter could just as easily said boats that don’t fully drain and….. With all the boats coming and going on Lake Minnetonka why is it that reports and associations target only angler crafts? The people with the docks and moored watercrafts on that lake do more to help out the aeebs than anything else. Its tiresome to see the anglers getting hung on this issue all the time.

    Also from the same Star and Trib article…. “Earlier this year, a watershed district study found that about 200,000 zebra mussels per square meter cover the bottom of just one of Minnetonka’s bays — Wayzata Bay — where they thrive on the water’s moderate algae levels and affect its quality.” Of course the mussel density will be higher where the water is riper, or as the article suggests, the algae levels are “moderate”. Why does this bay in particular have water with higher algae levels than other areas of the lake? It certainly couldn’t come from fertilizers applied to lawns along the lake shores could it.

    I think before any studies on pesticides that are not fully proven are used in Minnetonka, some serious testing of soils on ALL of the home-sites inside the district in mention gets done to see maybe if even a casual rain-shower might not be putting enough growth hormones in the water via run off that the answer to the zeeb problem might not lie stopping the fertilizing taking place there. If these critters are eating the algae, look at getting rid of the causes that create excess algae, but certainly don’t go messing with dumping un-tried poisons in the lake’s water unless an agreement is reached that if the poison backfires and kills the lake, those who did the adding and those who wanted this done are fully and solely responsible for the lake’s rehabilitation, NOT THE TAXPAYERS.

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    What he said!

    Nick Cox
    Minnesota
    Posts: 261
    #1630813

    Hey @matte, to post a link in the forums simply copy it from your web address bar and paste it into the body of your forum post and it will appear. Hope this helps ya in the future!

    blank
    Posts: 1776
    #1630824

    “In addition to the copper pesticide study, University of Minnesota researchers, a lake marina owner and boat manufacturer are looking at how boat designs could reduce how much water is left in places on the boat, like live wells that don’t fully drain and which may permit veligers to spread when the boat is used on other lakes.”….Star Tribune

    Notice how the emphasis has been placed on fishing boats? Instead of using a live-well as an example, this reporter could just as easily said boats that don’t fully drain and….. With all the boats coming and going on Lake Minnetonka why is it that reports and associations target only angler crafts? The people with the docks and moored watercrafts on that lake do more to help out the aeebs than anything else. Its tiresome to see the anglers getting hung on this issue all the time.

    Don’t take things so personal. The way I read that statement was that boat manufacturers are looking at ways to help better drain boats, with the rear main drain plug seems to be the obvious, but the livewell would be an additional area. I’ve often wondered why livewell drains are on the side of the tank (like my boat) or are just slightly raised. Why not have it flush, or even tapered on the bottom of the tank? To me, that should be a great and easy think to redesign. However, I wouldn’t mind seeing some info on how wakesurfers drain their ballasts.

    matt
    Posts: 659
    #1631218

    I received an email response from my representative stating that the spread of ais is an important issue but that she is not on the environmental commitee and that she would pass my comments on to someone who is..I guess if they are not on a certain commitee they either dont care or cant do anything.

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