WX 2190 Skeeter prop help

I have the wx 2190 with the 300 yamaha offshore. I have the standard 8″ set back. Delivered from factory in the 3rd hole up. Noticed a couple times wot I could only get 1/2 trim before prop blew out. I was only getting 5400 rpm at 55 mph. Dropped engine 1 hole now get 5600 rpm and maybe 55.5 mph. I have tried 21 tempest, 21 Turbo1, 22 tempest, 23 bravo. Best performance has been 23 bravo, but could only turn 5300 rpm. My range is 5500 to 6000. I sold my 23 bravo now ordered the new 20.5 pitch Bravo. Hope I get better rpm results and top end. Any in put is much appreciated.

Hopefully Cory J. chimes in. He has been running that combo for a number of years.

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I think Cory runs the turbo 1. But I am looking for some advice. I know the boat can go 58 fairly consistently just haventer seen anything over 56 yet. Thanks for the reply

@mikeupgren…..where do you live or what lake are you getting these numbers from? What year 2190?

Cal I think what Mike is saying is that he has heard of the 2190 going 58 pretty common but he cant get his over 56mph.

OK so for the 2190 and propping…Mike dropping your motor with no jackplate was a good move as you can tell by your results. Now I always have had a jackplate making it easier to dial in. I’ve had 3 2190’s all ran different speeds with my 2013 being the fastest by a few(3-4) mph. My 2 favorite props have been the Turbo 1 21p and the Pro Series 21p. Pretty similar props. I did run a 23p Pro Series on mine last year and was a couple mph faster but only turning 5500 and lost come control in rough water.

On my new 2016 I have tried a fully balanced and sharpened Tempest 21 and a Saltwater 20p. Tempest ran 55-5600 @55mph hole shot was so so. The saltwater ran 57-5800 @56.5. Much better hole shot as well.

I think over the years there has been some slight tweaking in the mold and they aren’t as fast as the 2013.

So for starters you need to be running a prop at 5700-6000. If once and a while with heavy loads and hot out you run 5600 no big deal. I will be curious to see what you get out of the 20.5 bravo. I think it will be great low and mid but no gains on top. I have a buddy that runs the 20p on his 2013 and he dropped a couple mph from his turbo 1 21p. Another buddy is running the 22p Bravo and seeing 55-5600@55 and another is running the 4 blade Yamaha and similar result to the bravo. Both of these boats are 2016.

For me I think I am going to try a turbo again, maybe even try a 19 tempest to see if it helps get some stern lift, then it might be off the custom shop haha. I saw my buddy has a 19p Enertia on his new 202 Lund GL with 300 Vrod.

I’ll keep you posted!

Skeeter 20. Thanks for your in put. I tried a 21 pitch tempest and definantly felt the stern lift. About 5600 to 5700 rpm I ran but speed was only 53 to 54. I had a 23 pitch Bravo and that by far has been the best prop. I agree the bravo gives more bow lift but still has excellent teeth to keep the back of the boat stuck to the water. Excellent in the waves and hole as well with heavy loads. I will keep you posted on the 20.5 pitch. I thought about sending my 20 pitch ss to have it blueprinted and having more cup added and some the unnecessary weight taken off of it. Thanks and let’s keep the notes passing.

What I experience was the saltwater gave the boat more stern lift then the Tempest. So in talking with my prop guy he agreed that the tempest is more of a bow lift prop and as we know the 2190 is not built for bow lift. That’s why the bravo is popular with these big heavy boats.

So we talked about the 19 tempest and it is a good option to try but it will be a while before I test it. I have had 1 prop cupped in my day by a different guy on my 2100 and I didn’t gain any speed. I stayed the same but dropped 200rpm. I think blue printing, sharpening and thinning is the way to go once a guy finds a prop he is happy with.

Be curious how the 20.5 bravo works!!

Quick update for you. I tried a 19 pitch tempest. The overall bow and stern lift was better. It did get slippery tried up and did blow out some on turns, top end was pretty much what I have seen, I ran just under 55mph with about 5800 rpm. I also got my hands on a 19 pitch Rev 4. I was very very impressed with this prop! It turned closer to 5800 rpm and was hitting 55.5 mph. Incredible bow lift, control and zero blow out on turns.
Got my new 20.5 pitch Bravo 1 FS this week. Trying it in the next day or so. Will keep you updated.

skeeter11 wrote:

Quick update for you. I tried a 19 pitch tempest. The overall bow and stern lift was better. It did get slippery tried up and did blow out some on turns, top end was pretty much what I have seen, I ran just under 55mph with about 5800 rpm. I also got my hands on a 19 pitch Rev 4. I was very very impressed with this prop! It turned closer to 5800 rpm and was hitting 55.5 mph. Incredible bow lift, control and zero blow out on turns.
Got my new 20.5 pitch Bravo 1 FS this week. Trying it in the next day or so. Will keep you updated.

I run a 19 pitch Saltwater on my 2190 and love it for the same reasons you’ve mentioned. The bow lift is incredible which really brings out the rough water handling capabilities of the 2190, hole shot is crazy-good, and my fuel economy is about half a mile per gallon better than when I run a 21 pitch at the same cruising speed. Top speed is in the 55mph range with the 19 pitch and I see 6000 RPMs at WOT. I know I can get 58 – 60 MPH going with a 21 pitch but honestly I care far more about how the boat rides in the 17 – 30 MPH range when the waves kick up then I am about going fast on the rare occasion the lake is calm enough to do so. Truth be told, even when the lake is calm I’m still a 40 MPH guy.

Thanks James for the reply- I do have a question for you. Is your 2190 a 2016? Also are you running a hydraulic jake plate or the just the standard 8″ set back? Wondering if you have just the standard set back what hole you engine is mounted in? Also just a side note if you haven’t tried a 4 blade on your 2190 you would be amazed on how much better the ride & performance is overall…I had a 2011 WX 2100 for 4 years and ran a 23 Bravo 1 FS and it was an awesome prop and really made the boat even a better ride in the waves…I will let you know how my 20.5 pitch Bravo works out in the next couple of days-

skeeter11 wrote:

Thanks James for the reply- I do have a question for you. Is your 2190 a 2016? Also are you running a hydraulic jake plate or the just the standard 8″ set back? Wondering if you have just the standard set back what hole you engine is mounted in? Also just a side note if you haven’t tried a 4 blade on your 2190 you would be amazed on how much better the ride & performance is overall…I had a 2011 WX 2100 for 4 years and ran a 23 Bravo 1 FS and it was an awesome prop and really made the boat even a better ride in the waves…I will let you know how my 20.5 pitch Bravo works out in the next couple of days-

I’ve always had the hydraulic plate on my 2190’s.

Let me know about that Bravo. I’m always interested in finding something better.

Tested My 20.5 pitch Bravo 1 FS tonight. Didn’t have the same bow lift as the 19 pitch Rev 4 but I did manage 5600-5700 rpms and gained just under 1 mph. Top end was hard to gauge it was down current and windy. Making a fair guess real speed was almost 56 mph. Trimmed up it didn’t seem to bite as good as the Rev 4 but overall it was pretty good. I think I could honestly go up a hole and this may increase rpm a bit plus these mercury racing props are made to run higher in water column. Right now I am trying to decide between the 19 pitch Rev 4 or the 20.5 Bravo.

The original post stated that he dropped the engine one hole and RPMs went from 5400 to 5600. I learn a lot from this site but I do not understand how dropping a hole would result in an increase in RPMs. Can someone explain why/how this could happen? Was he unable to get the RPMs up before it blew out with the higher mounting height?

No problem. Sometimes if you have the motor too high and depending on what type of prop you are running your motor will blow out before you can get maximum trim, which will typically translate to increased rpms out of your engine. This is what was happening to me. Alot of the props I was trying were blowing out because they don’t have enough cup in the prop. Cup = Claws that keep the prop hooked up in the water. So by dropping one hole I was able to use more trim and increase my rpms. But food for thought. It all depends on what type of prop you are running. I am going to stay with the 4 blade class, the bravo or the Rev 4 in this case and most likely raise my engine 1 hole. These props have more cup to them therefor you can run them higher on the transom. I run the big 2190 so I am looking for overall performance and more importantly stability on the pad up on plane

Little update…I have been running the pro series 21p 5800-5900 and 55-56mph fully loaded, bow/bait and livewell full, 4 adults. Not really fair numbers but fully loaded with me and another guy 225# going into 15mph wind was 55.5 and going with the wind 58.4.(was able to go wide open since waves didn’t have much to room build off shore) Motor still has only 6 hours so see how things go after break in period.

Spoke with my prop guy and had a guy run a Rev 4 19 5700-5800rpm and 55-56mph loaded up. Tried the 20p and wasn’t getting enough rpms and about the same speed. He is now going to do some work on the 19p and see how it runs.

Next week I might try the Enteria ECO 19p. Some of the other big heavy boats have had good results with it.

Those are nice results especially for a 21 pitch. I don’t have the hydraulic jake plate and this is where I might be seeing different reports. I cant get any rpms out of a 21 pitch, best 5500. But I do have a Rev 4 19 pitch ordered and I am having this re worked by Brainerd Props. I did a demo with the 19 pitch Rev 4 and it was the only prop I found that would give the boat enough lift to get up on the pad. Was really impressed with it. I appreciate any inputs and results. I just want the best overall performance. This is why I am going with the 19 pitch Rev 4

Shocked you didn’t see 5700+ with the Turbo 1. Pretty easy prop to turn. Them are good numbers on the Rev 4. I might grab one soon and test it out. Let me know how it is when you get it back from Ricky.

Yeah couldn’t get the rpms up there on any 21 pitch. I am actually running a 19 pitch Turbo 1 and I am getting 5900 to 6000 rpms. Top end is not very good 54 mph best and not much boat lift. But works for now until I get the 19 pitch Rev 4. Get your hands on one them and I bet you won’t go back. That Rev 4 felt really good. The added cupping in those props allow you to run higher in the water and still won’t blow out. Lmk.

Stay tuned I got my re worked 19 pitch Rev 4 from Ricky at Brainerd Props yesterday. I will post the results after this weekend! This will be the prop I will be running. Keep you posted.

skeeter11 wrote:

Stay tuned I got my re worked 19 pitch Rev 4 from Ricky at Brainerd Props yesterday. I will post the results after this weekend! This will be the prop I will be running. Keep you posted.

Results???

I have a 2015 2190. Running a 19 pitch salt water prop on the boat. RPM’s are about 5700-5800. Could be higher, but every time I am on the water it is rough. Hole shot is good with the prop, but interested in better hole shot and feel that there is more on the top end with the low RPM’s. Talked to Mercury racing prop folks and they suggested the Bravo 1 4 blade. The gentleman talked initially about the FS series of the Bravo prop, but then suggested the brand new Bravo 1 LT that has just been released. He feels the longer tube will provide more lift to the boat and improve the overall performance better than the FS would. Have a Bravo 1 LT 20.5 pitch ordered. Waiting. Making them as they are ordered I think. Will post results in a couple of weeks.

That’s awesome I heard about the new Bravo 1 LT. I. Actually running a 19 pitch Rev 4 reworked with the barrel cut down. Now I am getting consistent 5e to 55mph depending on load. 1 foot chop I have seen as high as 56 mph. Ran a 20 pitch Bravo fs amd saw little better top end at most 1 mph but less bow lift. Maybe this Bravo 1 LT right oit of the box will be the ticket!

The guy at Mercury told me that the LT(long tube) is designed to create more bow lift with the longer tube. Still has the vent system in the prop, looks something to play with and dial in. I have the batteries moved back and under the back jump Seats as well, so will impact results as well.

Well I look forward to your results for sure. Do you ha e the hydraulic jake plate? I don’t I just have the 8″ set back. Which honestly has been pretty darn good. But appreciate your feedback! Have fun.

skeeter11 wrote:

I think Cory runs the turbo 1. But I am looking for some advice. I know the boat can go 58 fairly consistently just haventer seen anything over 56 yet. Thanks for the reply

Doug. I wish I had better results for ya. 56 mph is the best I have got too. I run a re worked 19 pitch Rev 4. I did run a 20 pitch Rev 4 stock and 56.5 but only 5600 rpm. I tried a 21 turbo couldn’t turn it. Then a 19 turbo ran about 5800 rpm 54 pmh top. I think a turbo 20 pitch with a little rework would be a great 3 blade prop. Or you may get luck with a 21 Turbo. I am in Bismarck ND and all the guys I talk to running the wx 2190 don’t see much more than 56 best

I have a new 2190/with 300 yamaha as well as 9.9 kicker. The delivered prop is salt water2, 20/15. With full fuel, 3 adults and a average load of gear. engine on 3rd hole from top on 8″ factory jack plate

The wot is 5600 and 53/54 on the GPS. Hole shot is bad, I can only get the trim just to half and I blow out on plane or in a turn. At 3300 I get 30 mph in calm winds. Only 28 in any headwind.
Fuel economy is 3.9 mpg
I need good hole shot, good economy at 30 mph (that’s the speed my partner’s prefer to run). I also need more bow lift and good control/handing/ fuel economy in the rough
water/short waves we have on LOW. I have always run 4 blades on all my past tin boat’s. Is the Rev4 my best choice? What pitch? Very much appreciate the voice of experience!

LOW Angler – I was very impressed with the hole shot of the 20p Saltwater that came with my boat. I ran that prop 57-5800 rpm @56-56.5mph. I have not tried a turbo1 on this boat or even last years so I cant say how they are lately. This year my 2nd choice would be the saltwater. Or looking at these guys results and talking with some buddies the 20.5 bravo FS is a good option.

I am not sure if I mentioned this earlier but on all 3 of my 2190’s I drop my motor to the top hole. This gives me a lot better rough water control and bite. I will run the jackplate all the way down most days in rough water. Now with my Pro Series 21 if conditions allow I run my jackplate at 8 on the indicator and just a click below full trim. My roost is probably at best 2′ high. For speed on my current boat it runs 56.5-57.5 loaded with 2 guys depending on conditions. With just me in the boat I have came close to 59mph.

I do agree on the 20 pitch Salt water series. I get similar results now that I have dropped my engine down one hole. We experienced the poor results in the original hole setting (3rd hole) where the engine was originally mounted.
On another note is your 21 Pro Series stock or reworked?

Thanks for the comments on 20p. Would u run it in the very top hole on the jplate. I’ll be calling Ricky tomorrow to see on a loaner..would u recommend the 19p rev4? Or??