wx 2060 prop selection

  • Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1612591

    Just wondering what you guys are doing for props on these boats? I am moving into a new WX 2060, with the 8″ setback, it will come with a 15 1/4 x 19 pitch saltwater series 2 ss 3 blade. I am not looking for a top end prop. I run the great lakes, and want a prop that is going to give me holeshot, good control, wave climbing, rough water control. I am new to Yamaha 4 stroke main motors, and there prop requirements. Thanks guys. Really looking forward to the new boat.

    bowtecmike
    Zimmerman mn
    Posts: 467
    #1612605

    Call Skeeter boat center they will know what’s best for that set up. There in Ramsey and Chippewa falls.

    #1612624

    After running both the 18P and 19P Saltwater II on my 2060, my vote goes to the 18P for control and hole shot. 19P was almost the same for top end but had a lot more blow out on corners and that’s with a electric Jack Plate. Yamaha makes a great prop for rough water and hole shot, just not meant to be a speed prop by any means.

    mann4ducks
    Posts: 235
    #1612661

    I have a 13 MX 2025 with a 300 offshore and a kicker and went to the Mercury Bravo 1 FS in a 20 pitch. I run that prop with 4 people loaded at 3600 ft elva. and it has a great hole shot runs with one person full fuel tank at 56 gps and holds great in the turns. I have run a tempest plus 21 same conditions long hole shot with 4 people, speed at 57 gps with one person but it doesn’t hold as well in the turns and wants to porpoise sooner when going slow. I tried the Salt series 2 but did not work for me. I also tried the Yamaha pro series (M) in a 21 but that prop would slip at higher revs and stop biting.
    just my experience.
    I need to pay atten. to GPHs on both set ups as we will run 75mi a day at times
    don’t get me started on 500 ft elva. I need a new prop for AR. (much to my wife’ furry) used my bravo boat jumped out of the hole but way slow on top end.
    anybody have any suggestions for that elva. tried my pro series but again it stopped biting way too early. I have a tempest plus 23 on a bass boat I am going to try next time I go down

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1612689

    I have the 15 1/4 x 19 pitch saltwater series 2 ss 3 blade that came with my 2016 model WX2060. The hole shot with the Vmax 250 is by far the best I have ever experienced. Top end is 53 MPH (5800 rpms) fully loaded with 2 people and live wells full. The prop does blow out quite easily on the turns.

    I am interested to find out what other props have been tried with this boat. I am sure there is room for improvement.

    Dean Marshall
    Chippewa Falls WI /Ramsey MN
    Posts: 5854
    #1612890

    I have the 15 1/4 x 19 pitch saltwater series 2 ss 3 blade that came with my 2016 model WX2060. The hole shot with the Vmax 250 is by far the best I have ever experienced. Top end is 53 MPH (5800 rpms) fully loaded with 2 people and live wells full. The prop does blow out quite easily on the turns.

    I am interested to find out what other props have been tried with this boat. I am sure there is room for improvement.

    I would highly recommend dropping the motor one hole, before doing too much with props. Just a suggestion, if you are losing bite.

    skeeter20
    Winnie/Grand Rapids,MN
    Posts: 902
    #1615236

    The Saltwater is a great prop for rough water conditions. Dropping the motor down a hole will really help you out as well.

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1619470

    I’ve been making progress on improving prop performance on my 2016 WX2060. My local prop shop suggested that the Yamaha prop (Saltwater Series II 15.25 X 19) could perform better if some cupping was added to the tip of the blades. The cupping on the factory fresh prop does not go all the way around the tip of the blades. The design of the Yamaha prop relieves most of the cupping at the tip of the blades. My prop shop added some cupping at the tips of the blades and the performance is dramatically improved. I was previously blowing out on the turns quite easily. My boat now corners like it is on rails. I saw a very slight decrease in RPMs with the added cupping, so I am having the blades sharpened and thinned on the leading edges to gain back my lost RPMs. Speed remained the same, so after the blades are sharpened I should gain a little speed. We will see.
    I should add that, at least in my case, having my prop worked on by a reputable prop shop was much less expensive than buying a new prop. Total cost of adding cupping sharpening and thinning of the leading edge of the blades and refinishing will be $180 vs $700+++ for a new prop.

    #1619530

    What kind of RPM and WOT numbers are you seeing with the reworked 19P saltwater?

    After trying a half dozen different props I finally settled on a 22P Bravo I FS for mine but I’m curious to see what the difference in a re worked 19P Saltwater was.

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1619551

    I am currently seeing 5800 RPMs and 54 mph (gps). Every once in a while I see the tach hit 5900 so I am probably running just under 5900. These numbers are before sharpening and thinning the leading edge. My prop guy says I should see about a 150 rpm increase when he has completed the sharpening. This should put me at a little over 6000rpms. I should also see about 1 or 2 mph gain with the additional rpms. All of my prop testing has been done with only me in the boat with the live wells empty. I should also add that my hole shot is epic! I was also able to raise my motor (SHO 250) to the third hole.

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1619552

    Justin –
    What are your performance numbers with the Bravo 22P and how does it hold the turns?

    #1619585

    I’m seeing 5800-5900 RPMs with the 22P Bravo 1 depending on where I have the Jack plate. 2 guys tournament loaded and livewell full I’m right around 58mph.

    I found the Bravo 1 had just as good if not a little better hole shot than the 18P saltwater my boat came with. It also holds really well on turns. Overall, I found that with the increase in stern lift, this prop also gave the boat a much smoother ride.

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1619589

    That’s great performance! Is your motor the 250 SHO or the 250 Offshore model?

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1619689

    Brian-
    I am very impressed with your performance numbers. Running your prop slip numbers through the calculator you are getting over 16 percent slippage. I’ve never had a jack plate so I am curious if you are raising your motor to the point where your prop is breaking the surface causing the high slippage? With my limited knowledge of props, I would have expected a very low slip percentage with your 4 blade prop and I would have also expected a lot less pitch with a 4 blade. Can you please explain what you think is happening to get your great performance? I would be ecstatic to get similar performance with my rig.

    #1619728

    The Bravo 1 props have a very progressive pitch to them so although it’s a 22 Pitch, it certainly doesn’t turn like a normal 22P.

    For instance, I turn a 22P Bravo 1 the exact same RPMs as a 19P Rev 4 which is a more standard 4 blade prop.

    The nice thing about a jack plate is you can make precise adjustments to find that sweet spot for a wide array of different props and water conditions. After running one for 3 years now, I’d never own another boat without one.

    Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1622635

    Hey guys, got the new boat and have been playing with it all week. Something I have noticed, is that this boat does not like a lot of trim. I have noticed that it wants to porpoise when given even a small amount of trim. This is based on what I think is a small amount of trim as my trim gauge is not working and I am awaiting the new gauge. I have run 3′ waves this week, to flat water. The porpoising is obviously less noticeable in the rough stuff, but more than a little bothersome on flat water. My set up is 8″ set back, 2nd hole down from the top, 19″ saltwater 2, 10 hours on the engine, and kicker motor. The boat seemed to do a little better with full livewell. I trim it all the way down, get the boat on plan, and just touch the trim switch up for a split second. Maybe I am over triming and don’t know it? Is it me? Any suggestions?

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1622888

    I get the same porpoising problem unless I am WOT or trimmed way down. I have a Bravo I FS in a 21 pitch ordered. i don’t have a jack plate like Brian so I can’t expect the same results. I will post my results once I have bolted on the new prop.

    Ryan
    Posts: 135
    #1623047

    Sorry Phil cant help you out much but will tell you that 2015 WX 2060 with a yammy 250 offshore with a 19 saltwater 2 prop, she loves to breathe. When it is clam out I trim it out a lot, almost to where the second speed trim kicks in gear. When running in 3 footers I am close to 80-90% trimmed all the way down. Top speed 2 guys full load of gear and full tank of fuel 54 mph.

    Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1623116

    It might have been me. We had calm water, but big gentle swells that really caused her to porpoise, with anything more than trimmed all the down. Later that same day, the swells had subsided and I was able to use more trim. Still feels awfully trim sensitive though. I only have about 12 hours run time on her right now, so may still be my learning curve, but I do feel that a prop with more stern lift may be necessary. Ran her Sunday into a 25 mph head win in a protected area close to shore so no waves to speak of, and fully loaded with 2 of she hit 54.5 mph. Overall, extremely happy with the boat, and she is dry. I have an HDS-9 chart plotter to get mounted, a couple of Cisco short tracks to mount for the rod cradles, and a Cisco tm stabilizer, then I will get some pictures posted. I appreciate everyone’s comments and help on here.

    Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1631560

    Hey guys, getting the boat diald in. But, I had a situation this week wtih boat loaded heavy. I had all my gear on board, 4 guys probably weighing 1000 lbs plus, full livewell with fish. When coming out of the hole, the bow came up to the point I could not see over it for a short time(does not happen with 2-3 people on board). The boat also really porpoised bad from 20mph to 45mph, with no trim, adding trim only made it worse. We had flat water the first day, so i was able to get it up to speed. Once I was able to get it to 45mph the porpusing subsided, and I was able to start to add some trim. We did hit 55mph on the GPS. I had one of the guys look to see where prop was running, and was told that the red stripe was at the surface of the water. Even with 2 people in the boat the boat feels a little stern heavy, with the 3 big guys I had with me, it really felt heavy. Should I drop the motor a hole? Does lowering the prop in the water help stern lift? Or go the sexy route and try a different prop? Guys as usual I appreciate all the advice and opinons.

    Joejk81
    Posts: 27
    #1631616

    What is your top speed with a lighter load where your set up now Phil?? I’m picking mine up Tuesday I think I’m going to get a Bravo 1 eventually but I’d also like to know what everyone thinks is the best Yamaha prop for this boat for top speed.

    Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1631645

    I have seen a fuzz over 56mph on the GPS. That was with all my gear, full tank of fuel, my wife and I. My boat is basically a big rolling tackle box. So really the only that changes is the amount of fuel I have on board, and the number of guys on board. I run Erie mostly, so kinda tough to get a lot of flat days to really stretch her legs.

    #1631679

    Best Yamaha prop I’ve found so far for speed has been a 21P ProSeries. Great hole shot and control with this prop as well. Still working on getting some final numbers for speed but from what I’ve seen so far, this prop should have no problem running 58mph with a full load under good conditions.

    Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1631806

    Again, I am not really that interested in top end speed. Justin, you seemed to be really into that Bravo 1 22p 4 blade that Mercury builds. Do you know how that compares to Yamaha Offshore 1 4 blade props. I am trying to stay with a Yamaha prop, because I can try them with out having to buy them. Just looking for some help. Sod Farmer how did the switch to the Bravo 1 21p go for you?

    sod_farmer
    Sioux City, Iowa
    Posts: 33
    #1631927

    The 21P Bravo I FS does not work well for me. Speed was unchanged but top RPMs were only 5400. Hole shot was good and didn’t blow out on the turns. No porpoising. If I could get RPMs up this would be my prop. Justin has a Jack plate on his rig so that may be the answer with this prop.

    #1631979

    I’ve got one sitting in my garage that I’m still waiting to try so I’ll report back my findings once I get a chance to run it.

    That’s odd you only saw 5400 RPMs out of the 21 Bravo? I saw 5600-5700 with the 22P Bravo.

    Phil Ames
    Posts: 91
    #1632002

    The 21P Bravo I FS does not work well for me. Speed was unchanged but top RPMs were only 5400. Hole shot was good and didn’t blow out on the turns. No porpoising. If I could get RPMs up this would be my prop. Justin has a Jack plate on his rig so that may be the answer with this prop.

    So what is the next step? Tweaking the Bravo 1? Did you ever try dropping the motor down a hole? I am curious if that helped, as that is on my list of things to try. You definetly have some rpm’s there. please keep us posted, I have not ruled out the Bravo 1 for mine. I talked to my marinia this morning and we are getting a yamaha prop demo set up, so I can test a number of different props under the same conditions. Any suggestions on props to try? I think the Pro Series and Offshore 1, anything else? I will post results.

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