Wolf hunt

Tribes declared 50% in the ceded territory. Statewide quota is now 119. Pics are starting to trickle out on Facebook. I’m betting it’s another short season.

Hopefully someone posts a photo of a successful hunt on there. I would like to see a Wolf Slayer

Guys are really putting a dent in the quota. One group got 3 yesterday and two others 4. Just a few of the groups I know about.

Bob Schultz wrote:

Tribes declared 50% in the ceded territory. Statewide quota is now 119. Pics are starting to trickle out on Facebook. I’m betting it’s another short season.

I thought I read 4000 licenses were sold. Does that sound correct? A public harvest of 119 would be 3%. Strikes me as a pretty low number from a hunting perspective.

tegg wrote:

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Tribes declared 50% in the ceded territory. Statewide quota is now 119. Pics are starting to trickle out on Facebook. I’m betting it’s another short season.

I thought I read 4000 licenses were sold. Does that sound correct? A public harvest of 119 would be 3%. Strikes me as a pretty low number from a hunting perspective.

I think this factors into the predicted success rate and the fact that they do not want the season to run for long. The quota will be hit pretty quick due to the sheer number of tags rather than the success rate of everyone involved. I have a friend who has a cabin in Northern WI who filled a tag. He admitted it was blatant luck that he happened to see one while out walking his property. They have had some tracks and a few sparse pictures over the years, but not regular close proximity sightings.

tegg wrote:

I thought I read 4000 licenses were sold. Does that sound correct? A public harvest of 119 would be 3%. Strikes me as a pretty low number from a hunting perspective.

When MN had its hunt years ago, the success rate for hunting one was under 5%. Trapping has a higher success rate, but even that isn’t very good either. Grouse had a post about this in another thread that was pretty good based on his own personal experience.

There were 4000 successful applicants. Some of those were most likely anti-hunters that had no intention of buying the actual permit. Most likely a pretty small number. The DNR wanted 2000 but the Natural Recourse Board set it at 4000, to try to make sure the quota was hit with the short season. As on noon yesterday 1620 permits had been purchased.

I do recognize from a State management perspective these hunts tend to reach their goal. As mentioned earlier in the post I have family property within the wolf range in MN. From an individual hunting perspective I can attest to the prospect of being in the right place at the right time for a short duration season.

What one needs is something like these Texas hog shoots from helicopter. Might be on the expensive side.

Looks like all the WI zones will close tomorrow. I assume this is because hunters are approaching the state-wide full quota of 119 wolves.

Grouse

Bob Schultz wrote:

There were 4000 successful applicants. Some of those were most likely anti-hunters that had no intention of buying the actual permit. Most likely a pretty small number. The DNR wanted 2000 but the Natural Recourse Board set it at 4000, to try to make sure the quota was hit with the short season. As on noon yesterday 1620 permits had been purchased.

you can get your sweet biffy the anti’s got there hands on permits.

I seen a post from Northern WI.

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=5782537738438346&id=117449524947224

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North of Virginia the wolf population is completely out of hand. hunting season and trapping will have little effect the numbers the only way they will start dropping in number is when the moose and deer get whittled down to nothing. I am not sure how far off that is..

gimruis wrote:

When MN had its hunt years ago, the success rate for hunting one was under 5%.

I think that would only be a fair percentage number if the season were to play out instead of being closed to a quota. Imagine deer hunting only until 100 bucks were shot in your area. That could happen in the first hour. Hard to call it a success rate when your potential 14 day season only lasted 3 days.
I can speak from personal experience. I had a tag, didn’t see any wolves in the first couple days of the season. Or areas quota was reached and the season closed. I ended up seeing 3 wolves while on stand deer hunting, during the legal wolf hunting dates, but our area was closed.

Pailofperch wrote:

I think that would only be a fair percentage number if the season were to play out instead of being closed to a quota.

Minnesota’s hunts were also not in February either. There was one during deer season and another one in December. I am not sure if that is playing a role. Perhaps they are easier to spot in February with persistent snow on the ground or they are on the move more now with mating season going.

IMO This token hunt isn’t saving any deer or dogs. It seems more in line with pure sport hunting which pisses the wrong people off. If they are going to do it, do it right.

Feathers wrote:

Wisconsin allows you to run dogs. If you have a group of well trained dogs you will have a much higher success rate than trapping or hunting over bait. The group I know of with dogs filled both their tags on the first day.

I was unaware that they used dogs to hunt wolves. I know there are hounds bred for bear hunting but is there a completely different breed intended to specifically hunt wolves? That has to be one tough friggn’ dog to potentially take on a wolf. Black bears simply go up a tree but I feel like a pack of wolves would fight back.

Same dogs. Guys are putting down on singles or pairs. When jumped they usually line right out and go. A lot different when they are the ones getting chased.

Wow what a hunt. After reading some comments on here I was wondering if they would get the quota. I didn’t apply but sounded like fun. Will the next time. Do they list how they were shot? Bait or dogs or trapping.

Last I saw the harvest was well over 200. Wow! You’ll hear some screaming now from the antics and wolf protection groups.

216 total. 54% males. 46% female. 86% by use of hounds. 5% trappers. 9% other methods.

In the DNR’s press conference today, they said the 200 quota was set so as to not adversely affect the population. Per the DNR’s numbers Wisconsin was 750 minimum over their population goal of 350. So why not set the quota to lower the population to get closer to the 350. The Natural Resources Board chairman said he wants this falls quota high enough to get it down near that number.

mxskeeter wrote:

Last I saw the harvest was well over 200. Wow! You’ll hear some screaming now from the antics and wolf protection groups.

Yup, the media is already eating the “overages”.

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Sad part there was a group of do gooder’s calling themselves the “wolf Patrol” harassing both bear and wolf hunters, they buy tags and burn them thinking their saving a bear or wolf. they do just enough harassment that they don’t get arrested, if you see any of their videos they play that they are the victim card.

Bob Schultz wrote:

216 total. 54% males. 46% female. 86% by use of hounds. 5% trappers. 9% other methods.

Thanks for posting those stats. Obviously using dogs is by far the most effective method.

If MN has a season in the fall/winter, hounds will not be permitted. If they have a season that coincides with deer firearms season though, the sheer number of hunters out there might be able to make a dent.

Dogs can be very effective. But conditions were about perfect for them. Fresh snow the night before and then again the next night. Which is hard on trappers. If the season opens November 1st like it’s supposed to, the trappers will no doubt do well.

My buddy shot his using dogs. He too agrees that it is the most likely way to have success. They were able to visibly see 2 different wolves and get them on the move. He took the first shot he had and nabbed one.

Yes, the wolves get on the run and aren’t as likely to fight back as some may think…but it does happen. There were 2 dogs killed years back during the hunt in WI that gained publicity as to why wolves should be hunted. I’m not saying there shouldn’t be a wolf season and am fine with it, but if you run them with dogs and your dog gets killed – that’s on you.

Feathers wrote:

I know guys who run dogs on bobcat and bear. They lose dogs to wolves. A pack can take out a dog and have it shredded before you can get to it. Pretty expensive when some of the dogs run $5k.

This is exactly what my thought was. Chasing a bear or bobcat up a tree is one thing but I feel like a wolf or pack of wolves is a completely different ball game. The size, stamina, and ability of a wolf or pack of wolves to fight back could take out a dog in minutes. Risky business for sure.

What about an Irish Wolfhound? Now that’s a souped up hunting dog.

Any of them run their dogs with this?

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