WI 2014 gun deer hunt success

  • Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1478674

    WI 2014 gun deer hunt success
    It would appear a new tradition has started on my farm, of which I am not opposed to by any means. The last couple years has greeted us with some nasty conditions on opening weekend, and this year was no different. The star filled sky the night before gave way to a warming drizzle that blanketed the hills and valleys with dense fog. This left visibility at a minimal and had maybe 30 to 100 yrds for the entire day.
    Nestled into our over-the-top “Wieland’s Tower” was Olivia, Lindsey, and myself. Day 1, the girls are designated shooters and I just get to kick back and take in what deer hunting is to me. Nearly everyone goes to their stand on opening morning anticipating that this could be the day they take that buck of a lifetime, their kid gets their first deer, or even having a simpler goal of harvesting a doe. For me, it’s the reunion of my oldest daughter back from college, my youngest having a break from high school sports, and me – just kicked back and enjoying the time I get with them. Reality is settling in for me and I know these precious days are numbered. So with no serious thought of myself taking a buck, I work 6am to almost 5pm as the designated spotter.
    The entire opening day in the fog was nearly indescribable of the partial sentences, “hey’s”, and “Oh,…..crap, I can’t see it”. Countless times the fog lifted back just enough that Mother Nature would give us a glimpse of deer passing by. A glimpse, might even be an over-statement. Too often, as quickly as you could identify the blurry/black images as a deer, it faded back into a wall of fog. Day one would end with a very small buck walking out of the fog directly at us. Possibly a 2.5 yr old and not what we have seen on our trail cams as deer we wanted.
    Day 2 greeted us with rain, more rain, and a stiff south wind. For many, this amounted to absolute horrid conditions and we didn’t see any of the neighbors hunting their land across the valleys. Perfect in my eyes, as I had the stand to enable us to sit all day in comfort. But most importantly, the lack of pressure allowed the deer to continue with their natural movements – something I very seldom get to experience after 6:45am on opening day.
    The action for us started fast. We had deer moving before shooting time into an area we call the sanctuary. In the dark, flickers of white of tails twitching is always a rush and letting us know they are close by. As legal shooting time passes, we have a few does and a couple small bucks pass through our field. The like clock-work, the heavy beam 8pt I had patterned on the trail cams came down his standard trail across my field and along a line of saplings. Instead of his usually walk, and clearing of scrapes, he trots and wonders on/off of his trail. Clearly he is in hot pursuit of a doe that is 50+ yrds ahead of him. First sight of him was at a conservative 275 yrds. It didn’t take long for him to clear the distance to the far end of my field, and stand butt-end to me. At nearly 430 yrds away, I knelt down with Sparky (my 270WSM) and bumped up my new Burris Veracity 5x25x50 scope to about 16X and evaluated the possible shot.
    Range finder put him at 422 and 428. Another check of the wind and I was confident we had a steady 12 to 16mph wind quartered to my face. Another quick run through of calculations and I knew I would hit at 425yrds 1” above my first mil-dot and would have 7” of drift to the right. If there was ever a moment to have extreme confidence in optics, this was it. Wind, rain, and a brown on brown target. I settled in and continued to watch this buck standing rear end to me. After what seemed like eternity, the doe finally stood up and began walking towards the woods. He turned his head towards her and took 1 lethal step and stood still again – now presenting a perfect quartered away shot. 1 deep breath, slight hold, steady release of air and a gentle touch of the trigger and my vision was GONE. The muzzle flash was so bright I lost sight of my target for about a ½ second. As I regained my vision, I watched him do a half circle in some tall dark brush and vanish.
    Immediately I made the walk out and locate the exact spot where I anticipated the impact. Exactly as expected brown hair in the grass and a few drops of blood leading to the red river. About 35 yrds away laid the buck – DOA. A quick glance at the carcass revealed a perfectly placed entry hole about 6 inched behind the shoulder. – Tag #1 filled
    Because of registering a doe last year, I had a carry-over bonus buck tag in addition to our ability to legally group hunt here in WI. With a tagged deer on the ground, I returned to our stand to continue to hunt. Well, in reality it was to brag a little with getting to make a very well disciplined shot with both my daughters standing next to me.
    By 11:30am things came to halt. So we opted to get the buck out of the field and go have lunch – knowing a much larger buck was making a daily trip between 1:30pm and 3:10pm along a different trail through dense brush. Unfortunately, Olivia had obligations and would have to leave for the day.
    Lindsey and I returned to our stand by 1pm. Sandwiches in hand, we attempted to enjoy our lunches and still catch up on the daily activities she has with college life. That was quickly interrupted at about 1:15pm. First few looks of the landscape had painted a picture of dark brown brush, trees, and shrubs. But with just a glance of the trail I anticipated this buck to be on, I spotted very bright white limbs amongst the shrubs. Knowing that wasn’t there a moment ago, I took a closer look with the binos.
    About as easy as one could possibly ask for. Standing at 235yrds along side a doe, was buck #2 on the list. I was in the best position (of Lindsey and I) to take the shot and this buck was giving us little to no time before stepping into a wall of trees. I immediately drew up and placed the crosshairs on the darkest hair above his brisket. A final check that I was perfectly centered and a gentle lift to the void of bone above the brisket and below the neck. A touch of the trigger produced a result I wasn’t anticipating. The impact of the Barnes TSX 140gr bullet flipped this buck over like a prairie dog. I’ve seen deer knocked sideways, pushed back, knocked on their butts….but never do this.
    We took care of this buck, and fell victims to the rain. Both soaked to the core, we elected to call it a day. For Lindsey, it was the season as she had to return to school for classes on Monday morning.
    With no intent of taking another deer, I continued to sit out throughout the week armed with a camera. I saw a number of does/fawns come and go from my sanctuary area along with a few small bucks. It wasn’t until Saturday of the last weekend that I found out a neighbor had taken a really nice 10pt that we had identified as buck #3 of the 3 bucks that we were hunting for.
    In a final note, I need to shout out a thanks to a few. First and foremost are my daughters. They make my life everything that it has become. Burris – The constant improvements and allowing me to use some of the finest of optics out there. Barnes Bullets – They consistently deliver the ultimate punch at longer distances with perfect expansion and weight retention. The damages to the vitals are always devastating, yet minimal meat loss. These tools have greatly increased my effective range and I appreciate the quality control they bring to market.
    Equipment:
    Tikka 270WSM
    Burris XTR 6×24
    Barnes TSX 140gr over Magpro (hand loads)

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    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1478682

    few other pics

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    cougareye
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 4145
    #1478690

    Some nice deer Randy!!

    I totally understand the pics. Snow one day, gone the next, back again the following day. Throw in some fog to boot. Crazy weather pattern we had.

    Gary Sanders
    Lake Wisconsin
    Posts: 434
    #1478714

    Nice deer Randy and that was some good shootin’. 430 yards – wow!

    youngfry
    Northeast Iowa
    Posts: 629
    #1478875

    Nice going Randy! I’m sure glad I’m not a buck on your list… sounds like a bad place to be! Great write up too.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1478892

    Ok, I got enough pm’s about shooting 400 yrds at an animal. I appreciate the concerns and you need to make the call on the shot based on your skill and ability for yourself. I practice and shoot out past 700 on a regular basis to know for fact where my point of impact will be. No luck, hail mary, or slinging copper. This is specifically a shot I set this rifle up for and stand on my decision. Hard to argue with a heart blown in half.

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    mbenson
    Minocqua, WI
    Posts: 1709
    #1478896

    WTG Bud!!!

    Mark

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #1478906

    Good read and some excellent shooting. Like you I also shoot a 270 WSM. I’ve struggled to find a factory round that I am happy with so far. This year I shot Federal Trophy Bonded in 140 gr. As with other loads I have shot they got the job done. Neither buck fell at point of impact and both Bleed rather poor from impact to where recovered. In all fairness my shot placement was not as good as it should have been on either deer. I hit both slightly back and slightly high. Maybe 2 ” or so both ways on a direct broadside shot. I guess I am use to my old Cannon ( 375 Winchester ) almost every deer taken with that gun dropped in its tracks and those that did not left a blood trail a blind man could follow. What do you think the closest factory ammo would be to what round you are shooting ( if there is any that is at all close )

    eyecatchum
    Milwaukee WI
    Posts: 270
    #1478933

    Nice write up and deer Randy! I can honestly say I don’t have a single stand where I can even see 400+ yards. So, the fact that you practice and have confidence out to that range is pretty mindblowing to me. Can’t imagine dropping the hammer on something I could barely see with my naked eyes, but I gotta admit, sounds pretty awesome! Again, great shooting and awesome deer!

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1478936

    @fishthumper the Barnes factory ammo don’t produce as well in my gun. In my opinion, the depth to the lands is drilled slightly different in every rifle. Seating depth, even though one part of the equation, makes a huge difference. Also hard to give recommendations when I know some ammo is crazy expensive

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #1478970

    I guess that someday soon I will need to get into the whole handloading process if I want to keep shooting the 2 rifles I current choose to shoot. The 270 WSM is just not getting the results I’d like on either accuracy or knockdown and the 375 Winchester is way hard to find and when I do the cost is extrealy expensive. I almost hate taking 1 or 2 shots each season to make sure it is still sighted in. I did put it back into use this last season and it still does the job. 1 shot and deer dead in its tracks. May have to use it till out of ammo and then retire it from service. I want to keep it around for if I go back to bear hunting.

    skinnywater
    Posts: 118
    #1478973

    Thanks for sharing.

    Can I ask how much land you are managing these deer on?

    fishthumper
    Sartell, MN.
    Posts: 11923
    #1478978

    Ok, I got enough pm’s about shooting 400 yrds at an animal. I appreciate the concerns and you need to make the call on the shot based on your skill and ability for yourself. I practice and shoot out past 700 on a regular basis to know for fact where my point of impact will be. No luck, hail mary, or slinging copper. This is specifically a shot I set this rifle up for and stand on my decision. Hard to argue with a heart blown in half.

    Like other here where I hunt there are not many if any chance of getting a 400+ yard shot. If you location presents those situations and you are confident and set up for a shot at that distance I’d say good for you. I’d not worry about anything else anyone has to say. From what I’ve seen from your past post you are more that proficient at getting the job done at those ranges. My guess is that those who are ? your choice have missed or lost far more animals than you at far closer ranges. Like you said, to each their own choice.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1479042

    Thanks for sharing.

    Can I ask how much land you are managing these deer on?

    Hard to put an exact # to that question. I have over 100 acres, immediate neighbors have parcels of 236, 19, and 11. In addition, these deer move across other farms and cover about another 400 acres.

    For me, the difference is how I set up my land. I have very little woods in the grand scheme of things. About 15 acres has been a sanctuary for over 20 years. After logging, I specifically stacked tree tops and brush piles for bedding areas. NO ONE IS ALLOWED TO WALK THROUGH THERE!. This has given us an area that does live in. A conservative number would be about 5 to 6 does plus yearlings that take residence to that sanctuary area. I have the adjoining 19 acres leased out to a neighbor and we rotate corn, oats, alfalfa,…. That way they have food source next to their bed room.

    If you caught any of the forestry project work I have done on here in the past, it will enhance a lot over time. Finally, I added food plots and a strict NO DOE KILL for my land.
    My philosophy for the last number of years has been ” How could a buck refuse to frequent my land”
    No doubt, the neighbors have shot bucks that I am after. Had to shoot a lessor buck for having some meat some years. But we have been pretty consistent at 3 to 4 nice bucks a year for the total area – plus the ones that venture in from other areas

    skinnywater
    Posts: 118
    #1479075

    Thanks for that.

    Not to derail your thread, but I bought a small parcel of land (10 acres, almost all woods) that adjoins some large chunks of public land. I am slowly going through the process of making this a “sanctuary” like you mentioned. I know I can’t control the herd by any means, but I figure anything I can do to make a safe zone will help my chances at better deer in the upcoming years so I appreciate the tips you shared.

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1479128

    @skinnywater – Shoot me an email at [email protected] as a reminder. I’ll send you some info on how I broke down the area I made into a sanctuary

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    TheFamousGrouse
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 11628
    #1480466

    That’s a really nice buck, but let’s hear it for that totally awesome looking rifle, all pimped out in that thumbhole stock. Sweeeeeeet.

    Grouse

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1480793

    Thanks grouse. I’m getting a lot of rounds down the tube, but it really does perform well. This one is set up specifically for sitting in a stand. Between the laminate stock and glass, it is a lot of weight to carry. But that extra weight helps a lot with recoil. The 270wsm is a mule. It’s at the higher end of power for a whitetail, but suits my needs for nearly every situation I hunt.

    flatfish
    Rochester, MN
    Posts: 2105
    #1480991

    Congrats Randy! I know I’m chiming in here late, (been slightly busy), but that was a great story of your hunt and and a totally awesome shot! Doing one’s own reloading, knowing the ballistics, the weather including the wind, makes it all happen….Your like ‘the Sniper deer hunter’… )
    I miss my old days when I had the places and opportunities to shoot 300 meters and beyond.It’s such a rush as confidence grows. hell, even basic traing with the 5.56mm at 300m was fun!
    WTG….

    joe_the_fisher
    Wisconsin Dells WI
    Posts: 908
    #1481060

    Wow Randy amazing shot!! Great job!! Nice pics! waytogo

    Randy Wieland
    Lebanon. WI
    Posts: 13475
    #1481072

    Thanks for the compliments everyone on the shot. Like I gave kudos to, having such awesome Burris glass to look through does make this so much easier. I have a few spots I sit that offers very extended areas to over-look. So not that I take shooting longer distances for granted, I just have the places for doing so. Many have commented on only being able to see but 50 to 75 yrds and never shoot a deer over 100. So, I thought it would be interesting for all to see how that shot played out. In the pic, I marked the trail, where first spotted, and where I shot. Other image is of 6 deer from last year on that same trail. If you can open the pic and zoom in, you can see the deer along the saplings just before getting behind the elm tree

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    rainman2
    metro area
    Posts: 151
    #1482481

    Nicely done Randy!!!!! Awesome deer!!

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #1482488

    I really enjoyed the read, well written. Great deer but family time, and making that shot with your girls present. They’ll tell their kids about that one, it might even be a little longer by then… waytogo

    river rat randy
    Hager City WI
    Posts: 1736
    #1482525

    I really enjoyed the read, well written. Great deer but family time, and making that shot with your girls present. They’ll tell their kids about that one, it might even be a little longer by then… waytogo

    ..I heard that shot really was at least 500yrds if not more.? …rrr

    abster71
    crawford county WI
    Posts: 817
    #1482543

    way to go Randy!!!!!!!!!!!1

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3782
    #1483829

    Nice deer and an awesome shot Randy. As far as how far a person should shoot that is a question only the shooter can decide. Some guys don’t pull their gun out of storage till the Fri. before opening day. They shouldn’t shoot at anything.

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