Who puts up public land signage ?

Just hiked back to a stand on the far side of the farm near state land, but I’m about 85 yards from public border. To my surprise there is a brand new public land border sign 10 ft from my tree. According to land surveyor and onx and other land maps this sign is 80 plus yards in to private . Who posts these signs ?
I won’t be leaving my stand here any more which is lame. This is a permanent hung for the season platform.
I also have a camera on the trail and never caught any one back here. They must have came in through the thicket of swamp and buckthorne.

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It looks legit and has a fresh survey stake next to it.

I’d talk with the landowner and see if they’re aware. That’s a huge shift.

On a forty acre parcel they’re losing 7+ acres of land…an 80 acre parcel 15+…etc

At minimum I’d ask for 100 years of property taxes back lol

B-man wrote:

It looks legit and has a fresh survey stake next to it.

I’d talk with the landowner and see if they’re aware.

On a forty acre parcel they’re losing 7+ acres of land…

It basically eliminates a entire corner of this land which is lame. I’ll be calling farmer tonight I’m sure he doesn’t know. He didn’t say anything to me and we were talking a hour ago.

Bearcat89 wrote:

Who posts these signs ?

https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/wmas/index.html

Bearcat89 wrote:

According to land surveyor and onx and other land maps this sign is 80 plus yards in to private .

Most electronic and printed maps are not 100% accurate, That is one reason the state and other property owners will put up signage to physically mark the boundary. Even the official WMA maps put out by the DNR come with this disclaimer;
Boundary is approximate, please respect private property and obey boundary signs.

If you feel a mistake has been made, you may wish to file a report with the DNR.

Speaking of DNR signs, I drive by this one frequently and it makes me chuckle every time. Never realized suburban neighborhoods were considered game refuges.

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Yes file with dnr as a mistake ASAP had this issue on uncles property uncle knew where 3 land stake were from when it was passed to him and his brother from father. Had there surveyors back out allowed the to cross his land showed surveyors approx location of known pins and when was all said and done signs were fixed to within mere feet of what they always thought property line was

Will be interesting to hear what happens.

As I’ve said in other threads, you’d be amazed at the inaccuracy of various boundaries that we would assume at this point would be correct.

And when it comes to land ownership and property lines, funny business is always going on. My last farming uncle had a field where the boundary between his land and the neighbor’s had no fence or fenceline. They just farmed up to a fence post and he just assumed that must have been the survey marker from long ago. He finally had to get a survey for some reason and it turns out the neighbor had been farming about 20 acres of my uncle’s land for about 30 years. That fence post had either been moved or was never in the right place to begin with.

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

Will be interesting to hear what happens.

As I’ve said in other threads, you’d be amazed at the inaccuracy of various boundaries that we would assume at this point would be correct.

And when it comes to land ownership and property lines, funny business is always going on. My last farming uncle had a field where the boundary between his land and the neighbor’s had no fence or fenceline. They just farmed up to a fence post and he just assumed that must have been the survey marker from long ago. He finally had to get a survey for some reason and it turns out the neighbor had been farming about 20 acres of my uncle’s land for about 30 years. That fence post had either been moved or was never in the right place to begin with.

Sadly after discussing this with the farmer last night the markings are correct. His property is 120 acres, but 10 years ago he donated 40 to the local church and get a written deal that they would allow us to continue using it. It’s completely land locked between his farm and the back bordering public land. Well the church i guess must have just sold it to the state, because on my walk out I noticed his enclosed stand is now signed off as well as the entire church 40 acres.
So sadly this was correct and I have to pull a couple platforms down before they go missing.

The old farmer isn’t to happy that what he gave the church for free they just sold for a profit, but that part of it all has nothing to do with me. I have no skin in any game, just a bummed hunter knowing 2 of my go to spots will now be over run with people who have no concern for what’s beyond what they are shooting at.
The farm is currently on the market for sale so this won’t be much of a issue for me past this season. Now it’s going to be back to the grind and trying to acquire a new permission place to hunt. Which stinks, I’ve put in many many hours of farm work to be able to hunt this spot.

Side note, if any one has land they would allow a dad and his kid to bow hunt we are willing to do all sorts of labor in trade. ( long shot, i know.)

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i do know if i was that farmer..i’d be having a discussion with that church board.

I have to wonder what he actually thought the church was going to do with the land. Of course they would sell it at some point the church isn’t in the land business. Sucks for you BC.

CaptainMusky wrote:

I have to wonder what he actually thought the church was going to do with the land. Of course they would sell it at some point the church isn’t in the land business. Sucks for you BC.

nope they arent……there in the business of telling you money is the route of all evil.,……then next week telling you to donate more!!!!!!

No disagreement there Glenn!

That’s a bad break BC. A lot of effort and good will with the farmer and now it might be lost. Depending on who buys the property you might still get permission to hunt.

So true glenn.
Just trying to make people BUY their way into heaven or the will get ya.

I have lost or lost access to plenty of good hunting land over the years. Grouse, deer, pheasant, and waterfowl properties all included. Even lost some public land due to habitat change (flooding, forest fires, and even a tornado).

Private land changes ownership… sometimes even when passed down a generation the relationship and access can change dramatically. Enjoy what you have when you have it.

That sucks BC

There’s a saying with hunting land that holds true, and just like you I’ve found out myself.

“If you don’t own it, eventually you’ll lose it”

I try not to fall in love with any land I get permission to hunt. At any time ownership could change, a new family member might start hunting and boot you off, etc, etc.

Brittman wrote:

I have lost or lost access to plenty of good hunting land over the years. Grouse, deer, pheasant, and waterfowl properties all included. Even lost some public land due to habitat change (flooding, forest fires, and even a tornado).

Private land changes ownership… sometimes even when passed down a generation the relationship and access can change dramatically. Enjoy what you have when you have it.

Same. Happens somewhat frequently too. Total buzz kill when the land changes ownership and you lose a spot.

It’s especially difficult getting permission to deer hunt on private land during firearms season. That is one tough nut to crack. It’s much easier for me to obtain permission to turkey or pheasant hunt.

My prime spots for turkey hunting up in BC’s “backyard” are all gone now because of encroachment and land ownership changes. Includes ( not limited to) when the owner’s son built a home and horse barn along a wooded ridge line that was phenomenal turkey land.

Even those that own land and manage it for wildlife can have the land change dramatically because of weather, wolves, neighbors, etc……

That sucks BC. You seem like a stand up guy who many landowners would gain substantially from in exchange for letting you have permission to hunt.

I can say that I’ve yet to come across one single person who regretted buying land for their own personal use/future investment…including both wooded acreage and tillable ground. If you make that jump, you could be set up for life.

buckybadger wrote:

That sucks BC. You seem like a stand up guy who many landowners would gain substantially from in exchange for letting you have permission to hunt.

I can say that I’ve yet to come across one single person who regretted buying land for their own personal use/future investment…including both wooded acreage and tillable ground. If you make that jump, you could be set up for life.

Thanks buddy. We are going to start shopping land near the area, being able to hunt a few blocks from home has been sweet. But I put in alot of time on public all over and will keep doing so. But it was nice to have 10 platforms out on this land and be in one 5 minutes after I left the driveway.
Let alone farmer let us have a free for all on the land, shooting trap, riding wheelers and it was always a sweet hang out.
Oh well, that’s life.

BC89: sent you a PM that you may find quite interesting

Brittman wrote:

BC89: sent you a PM that you may find quite interesting

Thank you, I appreciate the article.

hey stop posting my favorite spot

we have sailed a few geese over into them yards tho

Bearcat89 wrote:

The old farmer isn’t to happy that what he gave the church for free they just sold for a profit,

A church is a business. How do people not realize this

Jake D wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
The old farmer isn’t to happy that what he gave the church for free they just sold for a profit,

A church is a business. How do people not realize this

It was landlocked. What was the church expected to do with it?

keppenhiemer wrote:

hey stop posting my favorite spot

we have sailed a few geese over into them yards tho

Is that you in those goose pits in the middle of the bean field?

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It was landlocked. What was the church expected to do with it?
[/quote]let people use it since there almighty!!!!

Bearcat89 wrote:

Sadly after discussing this with the farmer last night the markings are correct.

I doubt those new signs will change anything as far as the general public accessing it. I’d remove my stands, but keep hunting it, sounds like technically it’s been public, at least for a little while. Have you inquired to the DNR if they are interested in buying the farm? Not sure who you’d ask, but might be worthwhile. Seems like a good opportunity to grow some public land in your backyard.

Can completely relate to losing private ground. It is always a heart breaker and having a hunting age kid makes it worse…..
SO much more difficult to obtain permission now too.

B-man’s saying holds very true.

BigWerm wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
Sadly after discussing this with the farmer last night the markings are correct.

I doubt those new signs will change anything as far as the general public accessing it. I’d remove my stands, but keep hunting it, sounds like technically it’s been public, at least for a little while. Have you inquired to the DNR if they are interested in buying the farm? Not sure who you’d ask, but might be worthwhile. Seems like a good opportunity to grow some public land in your backyard.

Not knowing the area this may not work.. but if its plowed fields, I’d reach out to your local pheasants forever chapter. The good chapters have the financial resources to buy land, restore it back to prairie and then turn it over the DNR etc. Typically they are focused on areas they can create big hunting complexes though, but not always if it already boarders public land.