Was duck hunting Friday morning in the Bay City area. Fired 2 shots. When I left I had at least a dozen empties in my bag! I don’t understand what’s so hard about picking your empty shells!
So who do you think is worse? Hunter or ice fishermen?
Really hacks me off that outdoors people aren’t taking care of the resources we enjoy!
My vote goes to some ice fishermen. I try to only leave a few holes as evidence I’ve been there. Some people treat the lake as if it’s a toilet at some crappy dive bar.
It’s pretty hard to find your own shells launched from a semi-auto if you are pheasant or grouse hunting. I usually don’t bother even looking for my own, I’ll never find them. What I do though is pick up any that I see and I think I almost always pick up more than I shoot in a season.
For both groups it’s totally unnecessary. Bring out what you bring in. It really makes a person wonder how these people were raised. Was it Mommy or Daddy that taught them to be slobs?
My vote would be for ice fishermen because they’re leaving their garbage on a large flat white area where it’s impossible not to see it when they leave. Both groups make it more difficult to stop groups that want to limit our access to public lands and water.
I generally fish 3 bodies of water: 2 in north Illinois and one west of Green Bay WI. I can honestly say guys who fish there are pretty good about picking up after themselves.
Definitely ice anglers. And I’ll be more specific to the ice anglers out there for long periods of time in a permanent house. The sheer amount of time spent out there including multiple nights is what causes it.
How would you know this? You don’t even ice fish
Just because I don’t ice fish doesn’t mean I’m not on the ice. I’m not blind to the trash, refuse, and crap people leave behind out there you know.
The trash on ice is really disgusting. My son and I always pick up trash we see. Ive taught him that since he was young. Its not just ice, open water brings ton of trash as well. River banks are always a mess.
We do a community clean up on chisago lakes. A bunch of us go out with wheelers and trailers and just clean.
Sadly we picked up 75 garbage bags worth last year. Super sad and disgusting
The trash on ice is really disgusting. My son and I always pick up trash we see. Ive taught him that since he was young. Its not just ice, open water brings ton of trash as well. River banks are always a mess.
We do a community clean up on chisago lakes. A bunch of us go out with wheelers and trailers and just clean.
Sadly we picked up 75 garbage bags worth last year. Super sad and disgusting
bearcat89, is this similar to the adopt a highway program?!!
I find it doesn’t matter why some folks are outdoors, but they destroy, mame, rape, pillage, and litter everything they touch. Shoot every road sign they see. Leave bags of waste, shells, propane bottles, beer debris….. You name it. PEOPLE are gross slobs, and if it wasn’t for lawyers, id say anyone I caught in the process would be beaten with the stuff the wrecked and left behind. And then forced to clean it up, and then publicly humiliated.
I find it doesn’t matter why some folks are outdoors, but they destroy, mame, rape, pillage, and litter everything they touch. Shoot every road sign they see. Leave bags of waste, shells, propane bottles, beer debris….. You name it. PEOPLE are gross slobs, and if it wasn’t for lawyers, id say anyone I caught in the process would be beaten with the stuff the wrecked and left behind. And then forced to clean it up, and then publicly humiliated.
I agree. It’s not only duck hunters or ice fisher people. I see it under deer stands, along trials grouse hunting. Doesn’t matter.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
The trash on ice is really disgusting. My son and I always pick up trash we see. Ive taught him that since he was young. Its not just ice, open water brings ton of trash as well. River banks are always a mess.
We do a community clean up on chisago lakes. A bunch of us go out with wheelers and trailers and just clean.
Sadly we picked up 75 garbage bags worth last year. Super sad and disgustingbearcat89, is this similar to the adopt a highway program?!!
Not real sure. We post a thing at the local bait shops hoping 1 or 2 people show up and last year must have been 50 locals with wheelers trailers and trash bags. Its nice to be apart of but its also disgusting
Its not just Hunters and Fisherman. Take a look at the sides of our roads and the amount of trash is just disgusting. Most of that is coming out the back end of pickup trucks or worse yet just chucked out the window. Need to have a punishment that calls for the guilty party to pick up trash every weekend for one year.
James you should’ve been alive in the 60’s if you want to see litter.
Any group can be guilty, but ice fishermen are the absolute worst. Shore anglers aren’t that much better. I agree about pheasant hunting, I usually can’t find my shells. But I always make an effort, and often the dog can sniff them, because she is always retrieving them for me 
That way I often get to see what other people are shooting. Thanks for anyone who picks up after others, I do it too.
James you should’ve been alive in the 60’s if you want to see litter.
Yep, even made a fake Indian cry.
Cows are the biggest slobs, you don’t want to step in what they leave behind
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
James you should’ve been alive in the 60’s if you want to see litter.Yep, even made a fake Indian cry.
True, but it was a very effective campaign. That and the clean water act seemed to turn things around.
Wasnt he Italian?
6yr olds. They are out of that cute see what they do and follow stage, and haven’t yet been fully trained and try to assert their independence through slobbery.
I dislike the premise of this post in that it asks which group is worse and assumes both are some level of bad. I prefer to call slobs slobs not fishermen, hunters, boaters etc. Slobs are individuals who don’t have any regard for the environment or their fellow sportsmen. They give us all a bad name. I applaud those who pick up after others and shame on the slobs that call themselves sportsmen.
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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Dutchboy wrote:</div>
James you should’ve been alive in the 60’s if you want to see litter.Yep, even made a fake Indian cry.
True, but it was a very effective campaign. That and the clean water act seemed to turn things around.
True. Even the Cuyahoga River cleaned up.
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<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
The trash on ice is really disgusting. My son and I always pick up trash we see. Ive taught him that since he was young. Its not just ice, open water brings ton of trash as well. River banks are always a mess.
We do a community clean up on chisago lakes. A bunch of us go out with wheelers and trailers and just clean.
Sadly we picked up 75 garbage bags worth last year. Super sad and disgustingbearcat89, is this similar to the adopt a highway program?!!
Not real sure. We post a thing at the local bait shops hoping 1 or 2 people show up and last year must have been 50 locals with wheelers trailers and trash bags. Its nice to be apart of but its also disgusting
thanks bearcat89, now that I’m retired it be something I could get into. Need to start looking around for things like that.
Shotshells are biodegradable, just like toilet paper. Or are you guys who are preaching to carry out what was brought in shjtting in buckets and carrying every trace of it along with what was used to wipe back with you?
One of the DNR’s theories pertaining to Mille Lacs being less fertile now compared to fifty years ago is how the septic systems in the area have been updated and there’s no longer significant amounts of raw human sewage going into the lake. From that standpoint it should be encouraged to defecate on the ice and leave it since it provides important nutrients that are valuable to the lake’s ecosystem.
I’ve spent a fair amount of time floating around looking at lake bottom with an Aqua-Vu and what amazes me is how little trash there is on the bottom. Decades of people sinking beer cans on a lake like Mille Lacs yet you can hardly find a one as a diver or looking with a camera. It’s almost like they biodegrade quickly and don’t harm anything? Weird.
What is natural? I think most people tend to believe things were natural prior to settlement yet what did natives do with their trash and refuse? Last I checked they didn’t have any sanitary services or landfills to properly dispose of their garbage. They often used fire to manipulate and manage the landscape. Was that natural?
Lots of cities out east dispose of old subway cars and the like by sinking them a few miles off their shores. Are they natural? Nope, but man are there more fish around after they flock to the new man-made reef they love.
One man’s garbage is another man’s creating fish habitat.
In the end I could deliberately leave every piece of trash I create when outdoors the rest of my life….
….and I still wouldn’t ever come close to harming the environment as much as one small 40 acre field rotated between growing corn and soy beans.
MN farmers dump so much chemicals, nitrogen, phosphorus, pig/cow shjt, and the like on the Southern half of the state that the lakes are emerald green and not suitable for swimming or fishing the latter half of each summer, not too mention MN farmers are attributed to causing one-third of the area that is the gulf’s dead zone, yet guys not picking up spent shotshells that are totally biodegradable are an issue that many of you find concerning?
How about I make you a deal since you’re professing to care so much about the environment….
….you get farmers to pollute less to the point I can swim on every Southern MN lake in late July and August without being green when I wade out of the water, and their impact to the deadzone is cut to half of what it is now, and I’ll gladly pick up my spent shotshells from there on out.
Big picture—MN is the worst offender when it comes to state’s that pollute, and choose to send industrial waste downstream to impact and negatively affect others that unlike us, don’t get any of the money made by the blatant disregard for the environment. This state has no sense of being good stewards of the land.
Agriculture is the only industry completely exempt from any and all EPA requirements. A farmer can literally spread tens of thousands of gallons of pig shjt across his field on a rainy day and have most of it run off into the adjacent creek and it’s totally legal….
….yet none of you guys ragging on sportsmen being polluters ever even mention it. It’s a bizarre omission.
So to answer your question—Farmers are the biggest slobs, and it ain’t even close.
All the polluting sportsmen have collectively done since the beginning of time wouldn’t even cause a small fraction of the several hundred square miles of gulf that can’t support life of any kind thanks to what MN farmers pollute every growing season.
If you actually care about leaving this world better than you found it then that’d be where you should start.
Look in the mirror.
https://krocnews.com/manure-spill-clean-up-underway-at-olmsted-county-farm/
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Definitely ice anglers. And I’ll be more specific to the ice anglers out there for long periods of time in a permanent house. The sheer amount of time spent out there including multiple nights is what causes it.
I think you are WAY off on this one.. I have a 10X20 Skid house that moves a total of 30′ from Ice up on MilleLacs, till the season closes. I spend about 26-30 days/nights in there during the season. You won’t find anything around my shack! I know a bunch of people, who own permanents too, that do the same thing and always have clean areas. “We” go back to our houses, in the same spot every weekend. Why would we leave it a mess?
Now the weekenders rolling around in their Wheel Houses….. 
I have a 10X20 Skid house that moves a total of 30′ from Ice up on MilleLacs, till the season closes. I spend about 26-30 days/nights in there during the season. You won’t find anything around my shack! I know a bunch of people, who own permanents too, that do the same thing and always have clean areas.
I didn’t want to paint all of you with a broad brush. I know that a lot of them are very good about cleaning up after themselves. Thank you for cleaning up when you’re done.
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