Wear a mask

  • Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10338
    #1934708

    Ha, I already have a few of those. They do work great at the 6′ SD.

    I found a place that has Tubular bandanas. I picked up 12 dozen for the crews.

    I was seriously looking at women’s Tube tops.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10338
    #1934747

    Thanks Jwell,
    I have been finding out at checkout when the actual ship dates are, and they are approximate. So at this time I’m not going to gamble and find out they will actually ship in 6+ months. Especially N95’s

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1934906

    We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

    So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

    You may not want to read this.
    https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764367/effectiveness-surgical-cotton-masks-blocking-sars-cov-2-controlled-comparison

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10338
    #1934934

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>eelpoutguy wrote:</div>
    I was seriously looking at women’s Tube tops.

    For masks, or to actually wear?

    For mask’s, I have a buddy in AZ and when they take the Razors out in the desert he says that what they use.

    jwellsy
    Posts: 1545
    #1934976

    They also have a camo version.

    The problem I’ve had with a lot of neck gators are that they run way way way too small for adult sized humans.

    Netguy
    Minnetonka
    Posts: 3155
    #1934988

    Wear, wear, wear. I finally got it that I misspelled it not once, but twice and I’m college edumicated!! Hah whistling

    Anonymous
    Inactive
    Posts: 0
    #1935043

    Where a mask?? Of coarse!! You can’t be two safe now a daze. It’s also a good idea two keep one or too masks is you’re car or truck. Ya no, one hear and one their. Also don’t be afraid too say know if someone wants you two shake there hand.

    Ain’t this English a fun language?? jester

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10338
    #1935061

    Just got a revised ship date. They were to be shipped in 3 days, now the planned delivery date is May 20th – 26th. mad

    Reef W
    Posts: 2684
    #1935069

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ralph Wiggum wrote:</div>
    We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

    So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

    You may not want to read this.
    https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764367/effectiveness-surgical-cotton-masks-blocking-sars-cov-2-controlled-comparison

    https://www.jwatch.org/na51322/2020/04/13/surgical-masks-provide-source-control-respiratory-viruses

    “The work by Leung raises the theoretical concern of viral transmission through aerosols as well as respiratory droplets although, as the authors note, there was no attempt to grow either coronavirus or rhinovirus from the RT-PCR respiratory samples to confirm the presence of viable virus. Still, this novel study provides strong evidence that the use of surgical masks can provide source control for both human coronavirus and influenza virus infections when individuals are sitting for 30 minutes. In contrast, the very small study by Bae shows that neither surgical nor cotton face masks will prevent the spread of virus from a coughing individual — at least at a distance of only 20 cm. While both studies have clear limitations, together they suggest that the use of a surgical face mask can provide some source control in individuals infected with coronavirus or influenza, although the efficacy is likely diminished in coughing individuals (and we can’t extrapolate the findings to other types of masks). Still, in my mind these limited data do support the broad use of face masks until this pandemic is brought under control.”

    jwellsy
    Posts: 1545
    #1935099

    … until this pandemic is brought under control.”

    What does that mean or look like? Is it under control if the death rate approaches that of Sweden?

    #1935105

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Reef Whooligan wrote:</div>
    … until this pandemic is brought under control.”

    What does that mean or look like? Is it under control if the death rate approaches that of Sweden?

    Us obesity rate: 40%
    Sweden: 16%

    Us diabetes rate:10.5%
    Sweden:4.8%

    These are just two examples of why the US is much more susceptible to an outbreak than a country like Sweden. We may find out that their less restrictive approach is correct but comparing the two countries response is difficult at best. They are healthier, fitter, and the whole country has access to healthcare.

    Bass Thumb
    Royalton, MN
    Posts: 1200
    #1935122

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bass Thumb wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ralph Wiggum wrote:</div>
    We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

    So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

    You may not want to read this.
    https://annals.org/aim/fullarticle/2764367/effectiveness-surgical-cotton-masks-blocking-sars-cov-2-controlled-comparison

    https://www.jwatch.org/na51322/2020/04/13/surgical-masks-provide-source-control-respiratory-viruses

    “The work by Leung raises the theoretical concern of viral transmission through aerosols as well as respiratory droplets although, as the authors note, there was no attempt to grow either coronavirus or rhinovirus from the RT-PCR respiratory samples to confirm the presence of viable virus. Still, this novel study provides strong evidence that the use of surgical masks can provide source control for both human coronavirus and influenza virus infections when individuals are sitting for 30 minutes. In contrast, the very small study by Bae shows that neither surgical nor cotton face masks will prevent the spread of virus from a coughing individual — at least at a distance of only 20 cm. While both studies have clear limitations, together they suggest that the use of a surgical face mask can provide some source control in individuals infected with coronavirus or influenza, although the efficacy is likely diminished in coughing individuals (and we can’t extrapolate the findings to other types of masks). Still, in my mind these limited data do support the broad use of face masks until this pandemic is brought under control.”

    Oh, interesting!

    I hadn’t see the April 13th study, just the April 6th one that I linked.

    jwellsy
    Posts: 1545
    #1935130

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>jwellsy wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Reef Whooligan wrote:</div>
    … until this pandemic is brought under control.”

    What does that mean or look like? Is it under control if the death rate approaches that of Sweden?

    Us obesity rate: 40%
    Sweden: 16%

    Us diabetes rate:10.5%
    Sweden:4.8%

    These are just two examples of why the US is much more susceptible to an outbreak than a country like Sweden. We may find out that their less restrictive approach is correct but comparing the two countries response is difficult at best. They are healthier, fitter, and the whole country has access to healthcare.

    Sweden also has less 5G radiation.
    https://telecoms.com/500957/sweden-decides-to-delay-5g-spectrum-allocation/

    But, none of that indicates what it means to have a handle on the pandemic. Many are advocating waiting for forced vaccinations and Certificates Of Vaccination ID’s/passports/tattoos.

    sji
    Posts: 421
    #1935142

    so does this make all of our drivers lic pix outdated???
    chuckle!!
    so now we have shots for the mug book with a mask on?

    Nah….just draw a smiley face on the mask.

    #1935143

    “Many are”. All I have heard walz say is that he wants certain levels of testing and a plan for test/trace/isolate. Stay off of breitbart

    Ike Thaler
    Posts: 1
    #1944490

    I think masks arent a perfect solution to keep us safe, but they do help enough to make sense for them to be used. I think people are going to be making a fashion statement about them! I actually just printed a bunch of them for my business…i used http://www.customfacemaskprinting.com but there’s many places to buy them

    I can’t wait to not have to wear them anymore!

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1944513

    Splain this to me Lucy.

    A fart passes through 2 butt cheeks, underwear and a pair of jeans. Virus?

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17110
    #1944521

    We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

    So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

    Yes, thank you. This is exactly true. I saw a guy on the news say “well if someone coughs into my eyes the mask doesn’t do any good.”

    While this may be true, he’s completely missed the point. Masks protect others, not you moron.

    Initially the whole mask thing was all over the place. We wondered why all the asian countries were wearing them. Well then the CDC said we could wear them…but not to use the ones medical workers need. I think it’s fairly easy to put at least something over your nose and mouth in an indoor public setting. I would say the grocery store shoppers were 90% compliant about this today so it’s improving.

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5199
    #1944525

    Splain this to me Lucy.

    A fart passes through 2 butt cheeks, underwear and a pair of jeans. Virus?

    Dave, valid point but we need a trial run to see if the N95’s stop the farts from going through the mask….we need one of those influencers to do a test on youtube.

    iowa_josh
    Posts: 427
    #1944528

    I am going to shop at stores that provide them for employees. If they don’t care about the costumers or the employees, I am out of there.

    DTW
    Posts: 298
    #1944530

    I’m blown away at how slow and inept the US has been to wear masks.

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ralph Wiggum wrote:</div>
    We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

    So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

    X3

    Masks do not work. Period. They are a fomite. Just like the clothes you wear. A fomite is a material or surface that would carry a infective organism. You walk around a store, touching everything. Grab your mask, go home take off your clothes, get your mail, take off your shoes. You cannot be sterile. This is so BS.
    I have been in the health care industry for 30 years. Been in the OR for my job. Nurses glove the surgeon after he scrubs. They Use gloves, gowns, glasses, etc ONCE then thrown away. Instruments are autoclaved to be used again.

    I guess you all don’t have a sterile room were you take off all you clothes, Leave your mail and deliveries for days until the virus dies on the fomite and then do it all over again the next time you go to fleet farm.

    Flame me all you want but masks do nothing and gloves are even worse.

    Quarantine is for sick people not healthy people. We are in House arrest.

    Weekender
    Southcentral MN
    Posts: 434
    #1944531

    And what about hand sanitizers? Isopropyl alcohol >70%, washing hands for more than 20 seconds? Are these proper procedures for disinfecting, or misinformation? Just curious.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17110
    #1944534

    I wish it was required.

    Some places do require it. Costco and Menards come to mind, but ya most don’t. Wouldn’t bother me if it was required either. The primary source of transmission is respiratory droplets from your mouth so a mask DOES help. Surface transmission is now listed as a very unlikely source of transmission according to the CDC now.

    Fish To Escape
    Posts: 333
    #1944535

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>lindyrig79 wrote:</div>
    I’m blown away at how slow and inept the US has been to wear masks.

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Ralph Wiggum wrote:</div>
    We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

    So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

    X3

    Masks do not work. Period. They are a fomite. Just like the clothes you wear. A fomite is a material or surface that would carry a infective organism. You walk around a store, touching everything. Grab your mask, go home take off your clothes, get your mail, take off your shoes. You cannot be sterile. This is so BS.
    I have been in the health care industry for 30 years. Been in the OR for my job. Nurses glove the surgeon after he scrubs. They Use gloves, gowns, glasses, etc ONCE then thrown away. Instruments are autoclaved to be used again.

    I guess you all don’t have a sterile room were you take off all you clothes, Leave your mail and deliveries for days until the virus dies on the fomite and then do it all over again the next time you go to fleet farm.

    Flame me all you want but masks do nothing and gloves are even worse.

    Quarantine is for sick people not healthy people. We are in House arrest.

    The whole idea behind the cloth masks is to limit how far and wide your respiratory droplets are spread, that is all. If everyone wears masks, we slow the spread. Wearing a cloth mask is not meant to protect an individual, rather they are an overall public health measure to slow the spread of the virus. There is definitely a right/wrong way to do it (avoid touching it, wash after using etc). The more they learn about this specific virus the more they are finding out it is largely spread through droplets in the air. I will never understand how this became such a divisive issue.

    Fish To Escape
    Posts: 333
    #1944536

    Oh and FYI quarantine is not for sick people, it is for people that have been exposed to something. Isolation is the word used for separating a sick person.

    eyeguy507
    SE MN
    Posts: 5199
    #1944539

    masks = window dressing. no socializing…..go in to get what you need and leave. as far as the front line workers go, I would want some protection in case some clown wants to tell you their life story or hack in your direction. I just can’t see how wearing a cloth covering that absorbs will protect you from an airborn virus…..maybe for a person coughing that may have covid to reduce transmission but if you are, then stay the F out of the stores.

    thanks for dropping some knowledge on the subject DTW. the mainstream media makes it seem like it is a political thing but it couldn’t be further from the truth.

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