Wear a mask

This link to the New England Journal of medicine shows oral droplets formed by talking. Watch the video.
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2007800

Here’s another link to an article discussing viral shedding and transmissibility.
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0869-5

A lot of data and science speak but here is the short summary:
Timing of viral shedding & transmissibility: Reporting in Nature Medicine, researchers in China examined viral load data on some 90 COVID-19 patients, as well data on the timing of transmission among nearly 80 transmission pairs (that is, one person likely infected the other). Combining these data — and assuming an incubation period of 5.2 days — the researchers conclude that infectiousness began 2.3 days before symptom onset and peaked 0.7 days before symptoms began. They also estimate that presymptomatic transmission accounted for 44% of secondary cases among the transmission pairs.

The main take away is person A can infect a lot of other people before person A shows any symptoms.

Where a mask.

“WEAR A MASK”

Totally agree! Even a ‘fishing buff’ works, then toss it in the wash.
I worked most of my life wearing a mask. Not a big deal, just ‘do it!”

Oops. Wrong spot. Carry on.

Netguy wrote:

researchers in China

And we should believe what comes out of China?

I think a lot of people are embarrased to wear one when they should be embarrassed to not be wearing one.

Totally promotes a false sense of security and quite possibly speeds transmission of the disease.

Studies of the mask’s effectiveness all assume the same thing. That the mask itself does not become contaminated. Bad assumption.

I had to go to the grocery store today. Watched a guy whose homemade mask had fallen down readjust it by putting his two thumbs that had just been on his shopping cart, INSIDE the mask to pull it up. He then retied the mask, placed his had on the front of the mask to make final adjustments, then again touched his shopping cart handle.

Then I was out in the parking lot and I saw a guy hang his mask so that the inside of it was on top of his steering wheel while he unloaded his bags into the back seat. Think about that for a minute…

We just had a massive run on toilet paper because of an outbreak of a respiratory virus. So you masked bandits out there think America is, on average, smart enough to have a mask do more good than harm?

Grouse

And wear gloves so you can cross contaminate everything…
DT

You can wear mine for me. Total false securities.
Im still waiting to die from aids, sars, h1n1, zika, swine…ya know all the other overhyped illnesses.

We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

Ralph Wiggum wrote:

We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others.

But if they are touching the mask with their hands–especially the inside of the mask, and then touching surfaces that others will later touch, how are they preventing anything?

Grouse

deertracker wrote:

And wear gloves so you can cross contaminate everything…
DT

The gloves crack me up! People still touch there face after pushing cart??what are they thinking? Like the gloves are magical?

TheFamousGrouse wrote:

But if they are touching the mask with their hands–especially the inside of the mask, and then touching surfaces that others will later touch, how are they preventing anything?

Grouse, I can’t fix stupid. At least it contains the sneezes and coughs, though.

Amd the glove thing. At the grocery store. I stand in line, with my cart. I didn’t use gloves to pick out my product. I wiped my nose and eyes a few times shopping. The clerk wearing gloves checks my groceries out and I’m on my way. Next person in line, no glove change and no hand sanitizer wiped on gloves.

Ralph Wiggum wrote:

We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

+1

I do agree that gloves are stupid (unless used properly, which I have not seen).

If used properly these things should help. If not used properly its not the mask or gloves fault. Just like you don’t blame the car for an accident because the idiot behind the wheel was texting you dont call the idea of wearing gloves and a mask stupid because you see people self contaminating.

I go into grocery store with gloves on wipe down handle and gloves . Throw wipe in garbage. Go shopping go to checkout pay with card wipe card with wipe . Go to truck unload groceries wipe handles with a wipe throw in garbage . Remove glove,s throw in garbage . Get in truck wipe steering wheel, drive home unload groceries unload and wipe down all items. Wipe down door handles fridge , entry door , bathroom etc Wash hands again . To much ? Not in my book ! Don,t just handwashing alone , gloves provide another layer of protection. To each their own i’m not going to gamble with this ! Also a face mask .

What is the difference between gloves and skin? Couldn’t you use hand sanitizer and forgo the gloves. That is what we do. I have a bottle of hand sanitizer in all my vehicles. Wipe my hands down often.

riverruns, I probably wasn’t clear who wrote the short summary of the article. It wasn’t me but the journal itself, Nature Medicine, a monthly peer-reviewed medical journal.
The article supports what has been talked about from the US sources of covid info that presymptomatic people can infect others.

I wear a mask and gloves when out of the property and including my truck. Pull them off from the end of the sleeve and then the fingers with the other fingers and do the same with the other when entering the truck. Get home and it is hot soapy water for better than a minute and nothing but hot water full port.

It’s “wear” BTW and its gunna go down in produce tonight!

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eyeguy507 wrote:

It’s “wear” BTW and its gunna go down in produce tonight!

Did I say something wrong?

Denny O wrote:

I wear a mask and gloves when out of the property and including my truck. Pull them off from the end of the sleeve and then the fingers with the other fingers and do the same with the other when entering the truck. Get home and it is hot soapy water for better than a minute and nothing but hot water full port.

Opps, sorry I get it, my bad.

I’m blown away at how slow and inept the US has been to wear masks.

Ralph Wiggum wrote:

We’re talking cloth masks. Like surgical masks, the purpose is to prevent the wearer’s germs from contaminating others. This is different than a respirator (N95 or other) which protects the wearer (and the wearer should be trained and properly fitted).

So, next time you see someone wearing a mask, perhaps you should thank them for protecting you instead of being a pompous ass.

X3

Is it illegal to wear a mask while carrying concealed, or is that just for open carry?

jwellsy wrote:

Is it illegal to wear a mask while carrying concealed, or is that just for open carry?

Im thinking right now it doesnt matter. Even at the bank.
Im still waiting for availability of said critical masks.

riverruns wrote:

What is the difference between gloves and skin? Couldn’t you use hand sanitizer and forgo the gloves. That is what we do. I have a bottle of hand sanitizer in all my vehicles. Wipe my hands down often.

Wise choice! What we need to be careful with is what we touch between the times we wipe our hands. If used properly gloves are better then skin for both you and others. The area around and under fingernails is very hard to sanitize. With gloves on sanitizing is a breeze.

sji wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>riverruns wrote:</div>
What is the difference between gloves and skin? Couldn’t you use hand sanitizer and forgo the gloves. That is what we do. I have a bottle of hand sanitizer in all my vehicles. Wipe my hands down often.

Wise choice! What we need to be careful with is what we touch between the times we wipe our hands. If used properly gloves are better then skin for both you and others. The area around and under fingernails is very hard to sanitize. With gloves on sanitizing is a breeze.

Protection is better than no protection. Protection used correctly is better than protection not used correctly. When taking off gloves, don’t touch the outside of the gloves. After you take the gloves off, wash or sanitize your hands. Masks are mostly to protect others

Maybe thank the persons who are “NOT IN THE STORES”. And your welcome.

Home Depot has 68 different types of masks – All Sold Out.
Where do you get a mask?
I tried to order Gaiters for my guy’s but they are out 2 months

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My Embroiderer just called his supplier for Gaiters and the guy laughed at him.

Epg found these work great, keep the crowd back also.

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