When / why did personal opinion die?

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason

The world is changed by your example, not your opinion.

Personal opinion is alive and well…to the point that people think it matters most.

It’s the example part that is dead/dying.

biggill wrote:

Therein lies the problem. I really don’t care about people’s opinions, it’s the the fact that so many are incapable of expressing an opinion without intentionally insulting anyone who disagrees with them.

If you don’t care about other people’s opinion, why would or should anyone care about yours?

-J.

I’m frequently accused of being a “climate denier”, which is puzzling since I’ve never denied the existence of climate. In fact, I relish our climate. Conversely, I also don’t understand how something as critical to our survival as CO2 can be labeled a threat to our existence. No CO2 = no photo synthesis = no food = no life on earth. So how can some kook former VP without and scientific background make a pronouncement that CO2 is a poison. And worse yet, why do so many allegedly educated people believe him? My bet is that if he had an R behind his name, they wouldn’t.
Now, how’s that for a guarantee that this thread gets cancelled?

Is that ^^ your opinion or your example?

Jon Jordan wrote:

If you don’t care about other people’s opinion, why would or should anyone care about yours?

-J.

You’re asking the wrong person. Ask yourself why you care.

My opinion is that most people opinions are based on other people’s opinions that are not based on facts.

dirtywater wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Deuces wrote:</div>
Once one separates themselves from the computers and tvs that feed you the .5% of the population that does the biatching you come to find the mass of the population are pretty cool people. Everyone is just trying to get along, make a living, raise their kids and have a good time.

People getting butthurt over people getting butthurt makes for a lot of extra butts that don’t need to be hurt.

Totally agree.

Stop looking for reasons to be ticked off, I promise you your life will become happier as a result.

1000% agree.
A couple years ago I quit watching all 24 hours news channels (they should change that to “24 hour opinion channels”)
I feel great.
and I tell people that if you can’t find fault on both sides of the isle YOU are the problem.

duh queen wrote:

So how can some kook former VP without and scientific background make a pronouncement that CO2 is a poison. And worse yet, why do so many allegedly educated people believe him?

The same reason so many people believe Gates on the whole Covid thing. There are a lot of damn sheep out there. Gates is an evil evil person. He also has one of the largest Carbon footprints on the planet yet preaches how we are ruining the planet all the while flying his private jet. Oh the hypocrisy.

CaptainMusky wrote:

Gates is an evil evil person.

I agree with some of what you said but hard to turn a blind eye to the fact that his foundation has given over $60 Billion in philanthropy donations over the years. That’s billion with a B. I can’t, with a straight face, say anyone that has given that much to charity over the years is anything close to evil.

Freedom is often a word misused for liberty. We have liberty to many choices. We all seem to think that we have no responsibilities in those choices.

There are many things wrong in our world today; it’s hard to cover such a broad scope in just one, simple conversation. We demand respect but aren’t willing to give it. We demand social harmony based on individual benefit and definition. Subjective truth has gained traction over objective truth. And mostly, no one is willing to adhere to the lessons history has for us.

I tell you, there is nothing going on today that hasn’t been tried or challenged before, regarding the human condition, and we’re cycling the same as we always have. So long as there is more than one person in this world, there will be moments of discord and difference. Can’t change that fact, only what the issue is. The solution starts with ourselves, but again, we are not good at disciplining ourselves. Best example? Driving. We always get mad at someone for driving just like us, whether that’s too fast or too slow, or too inattentive.

Hypocrisy is alive and well. Confirm by denial! lol

With opinions, no one extrapolates anymore. Everything is so literal. And seldom do we ever seem to counter any point of view with this simple question: “How did you come to that conclusion?”

We can also ask, “Based on what?” There’s nothing wrong with digging, unless you, or they, have something to keep hidden. People are afraid of finding out they really don’t know about something, or to look foolish. Pride is also alive and well.

I would encourage folks to deeply consider the benefits of humility. We don’t always have to be first, or right, or brilliant, or popular, etc., etc… We can be real, but that doesn’t mean we have to be a jerk about it.

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

we have two ears and one mouth for a reason

but we have 10 fingers for typing replies online

I generally avoid sharing my opinion on topics such as politics and religion mostly because Im not out to change someone’s opinion and they wont change mine

Topics about fishing though, I will share my opinions but they are based on my personal experiences

Reef……i still only use 2.

but we have 10 fingers for typing replies online
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I only use 1. The same one I wave at people with

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>CaptainMusky wrote:</div>
Gates is an evil evil person.

I agree with some of what you said but hard to turn a blind eye to the fact that his foundation has given over $60 Billion in philanthropy donations over the years. That’s billion with a B. I can’t, with a straight face, say anyone that has given that much to charity over the years is anything close to evil.

You’re not wrong but that’s what these elites do to cover up for all their warts. Yeah it’s great he’s doing those things but the other things he’s done are just terrible.

Busch Light had quite a following here, along with the dozens of Anheuser Busch products they brew. Are we dumping them out and switching or what’s the deal?

That poor “You Betcha” guy is supporting more than he ever knew!

Come on over to the Miller Lite side. Light Beer tastes like beer, and our men are born men.

How can anyone get mad at Busch Light since they have the walleye cans?

biggill wrote:

Hell yeah Dutchboy, let end this cancel culture bs. Totally agree.

Beer corporations should be free to support whomever they want without fear of being cancelled.

You clearly don’t know what cancelling is. No one is trying to cancel Budweiser for their dumb marketing move. They are making fun of the dumbness and some are saying they will no longer purchase their product. That was going on long be the Al gore invented the internet and before ‘cancel culture’ was a thing.

Cancelling goes to far more extreme measures to destroy a person or company than that. If Budweiser had done or said something anti trans, gay etc. you get to see what canceling looks like from one particular political party and their media machine.

Dutchboy wrote:

Nobody should tell you what you like or dislike.

I think the bigger problem is now many expect and demand you to agree and embrace their opinions and beliefs. They shove it in your face and if you don’t agree and accept with open arms now you’re the bassturd. We’ve went from acceptance to compliance and I’m not sure how that happened.

I say live and let live. Do your thing but please don’t push it on me.

FinnyDinDin wrote:

You clearly don’t know what cancelling is. No one is trying to cancel Budweiser for their dumb marketing move. They are making fun of the dumbness and some are saying they will no longer purchase their product. That was going on long be the Al gore invented the internet and before ‘cancel culture’ was a thing.

Cancelling goes to far more extreme measures to destroy a person or company than that. If Budweiser had done or said something anti trans, gay etc. you get to see what canceling looks like from one particular political party and their media machine.

So it’s only cancelling when it favors democrats. Silly me.

biggill wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>FinnyDinDin wrote:</div>
You clearly don’t know what cancelling is. No one is trying to cancel Budweiser for their dumb marketing move. They are making fun of the dumbness and some are saying they will no longer purchase their product. That was going on long be the Al gore invented the internet and before ‘cancel culture’ was a thing.

Cancelling goes to far more extreme measures to destroy a person or company than that. If Budweiser had done or said something anti trans, gay etc. you get to see what canceling looks like from one particular political party and their media machine.

So it’s only cancelling when it favors democrats. Silly me.

Nah canceling would be digging up executives personal life and blasting over all media outlets, demanding distributors and retailers discontinue their products or else…, etc etc.

For example, libs could have stopped supporting anything Joe rogan made money on and shared their opinions on how they think of him and left it at that. Kind of like people are doing with Budweiser. Instead they took it way further and attacked at every angle in an attempt to cancel him. I’m glad they did not succeed. There are tons of other examples.

Like I said you clearly don’t know the difference. Can’t say I’m surprised.

You’re confusing cancelling with doxing.

Can’t wait for Anheuser Busch’s next quarterly earnings release to see the impact of all these haters who are making a huge statement by never drinking their products again. I don’t know how they’ll ever financially recover.

Lol at kid rock. Sure are sticking it to the man by destroying a bunch of product you already paid for.

biggill wrote:

You’re confusing cancelling with doxing.

Demanding those that support a businesses livelihood ie. going after Spotify to end their contract, ie calling someone a racist and cherry-picking short clips to support it. That’s not doxing that is canceling.

You are confusing boycotting and making humor of a marketing faceplant with canceling.

buckybadger wrote:

Come on over to the Miller Lite side. Light Beer tastes like beer, and our men are born men.

LOL. One quick google search and it’s pretty evident Miller Lite is just as much, if not more in support of the lgbt community as bud light is. Coors light as well.

Not sure how any of you guys are going to survive

Gitchi Gummi wrote:

Can’t wait for Anheuser Busch’s next quarterly earnings release to see the impact of all these haters who are making a huge statement by never drinking their products again. I don’t know how they’ll ever financially recover.

Lol at kid rock. Sure are sticking it to the man by destroying a bunch of product you already paid for.

Good point about kid rock. Lol

If you don’t think this will hurt their bottom line you have your head in the sand. No one in their marketing or management department can be exited about the publics reaction.

I never understand why companies go woke and/or political, no matter their party affiliation. Too risky. It backfires all too often.

Finny, just about every one of the major beer companies are “woke” and supporting the lgbt community. So you’re telling me they’re all going to go broke now because of it? One thing I know about Americans is they like their beer and that isn’t changing.

I’ll report back in a couple months when Anheuser Busch’s earnings are released.

Gitchi, please point out where I said they’d go broke. If you don’t think this will hurt their bottom line aka sales, you are mistaken in my opinion. They lost more customers than they gained due to a marketing effort. That is a blunder for any company.

Big breweries have lost a ton of market share due to the craft brewery explosion in the last couple decades. They last thing they need is to turn off a bunch of their core client base with a marketing ad targeted at such a small target audience. Marketing 101

To think that people care more about a companies views than the product is plain insanity. Remember how everybody was going to get even with the NFL by boycotting football. Biggest joke ever. It hurt the NFL so bad they are only able to sign guys to multi million dollar contracts. Talk is cheap and it seldom if ever effects a bottom line.