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I think we will soon see a fair amount of business make getting the shot a condition of Employment. I’m not a big fan of that, but its the world we are now living in. I believe I saw on the news last night that the government has told businesses its within their rights to not only mandate the shot as a condition of employment, but to terminate those who do not. I believe it went on to say those terminated or who quite a job will not be eligible for unemployment benefits. These are the things that happen when some people don’t think the big picture when it comes time to vote. Then simply make their choice on some small single issue. This is just the start of more and more government control. If they were truly worried about the well being of american’s they would ban smoking. This would save far more lives each year than this silly shot. Oh that’s right. Tobacco companies are one of the largest contributors to political campaigns !!! along with large pharma companies like Pfizer and Johnson and Johnson !!!

I look at the vaccine as a seat belt or a life jacket. I can still get killed while wearing a seat belt or life jacket, but my chances of survival are better.

Mnice, it is from what we know now. Unfortunately, the vaccines do not stop transmission like the ones we are all familiar with. And apparently they become less effective with time. Like everyone, I want this to be over and it just isn’t going to go away. And the media is fear mongering us every day. It is their currency.

Bless you guys. Stay healthy and happy.

fishthumper wrote:

I believe I saw on the news last night that the government has told businesses its within their rights to not only mandate the shot as a condition of employment, but to terminate those who do not.

fishthumper wrote:

These are the things that happen when some people don’t think the big picture when it comes time to vote.

I think this is the district court ruling in Texas that set this precedence.

Here is a link to the ruling:

https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2021/06/Bridges-v.-Houston-Methodist.pdf

Item 3 explains the denial of most of the plaintiffs’ arguments.

The presiding judge is Lynn N. Hughes. He is listed as bipartisan from what I could find but was nominated to this position by Ronald Reagan in 1985.

Netguy wrote: “I think this is the district court ruling in Texas that set this precedence.

Here is a link to the ruling:

https://www.lawandtheworkplace.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/29/2021/06/Bridges-v.-Houston-Methodist.pdf

Item 3 explains the denial of most of the plaintiffs’ arguments.

The presiding judge is Lynn N. Hughes. He is listed as bipartisan from what I could find but was nominated to this position by Ronald Reagan in 1985.

The non-partisan approach of the majority of federal judges is fascinating. While there are exceptions, most judges, from the district courts up through the Supreme Court, decide on the basis of the law rather than political considerations. Appointees tend to reflect the philosophy of the President who nominated them but not that President’s political positions.

Basic vaccine information to think about. Vaccines don’t prevent one from getting the disease they are designed to protect against, they allow your immune system to kick said disease’s ass. They are not a “force field”. They give your immune system super powers.

So yes you can catch a disease after being vaccinated, but you will not be spreading it as long or in as much quantity as someone who is unvaccinated. Think a brief drizzle vs. a prolonged hurricane.

Mike wrote:

Just… wow. If it was up to you folks we’d still be dealing with Polio, Measles and Smallpox on a regular basis.

Just wow…so your saying if you are vaccinated against Polio, Measles and Smallpox… and you are vaccinated against Covid and can still get it, they are garnering the same reaction ? If you ride a motorcycle and wear a helmet, do you demand that your neighbor wear one too, for your safety ? Not even comparable. I hope there are no long term effects, but have been reading a lot about it affecting peoples blood… to the point where when you donate blood, it quietly matters if you are donating with the experimental vaccine.

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No wonder!! Kirk’s been brainwashed his whole life.

https://mobile.twitter.com/rzstprogramming/status/1423348896978374659?s=10

Same as it’s been since 1960. They don’t have one

big_g wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Mike wrote:</div>
Just… wow. If it was up to you folks we’d still be dealing with Polio, Measles and Smallpox on a regular basis.

Just wow…so your saying if you are vaccinated against Polio, Measles and Smallpox… and you are vaccinated against Covid and can still get it, they are the same ? If you ride a motorcycle, do you demand that your neighbor wear one too, for your safety ? Not even comparable. I hope there are no long term effects, but have been reading a lot about it affecting peoples blood.. to the point where when you donate blood, it quietly matters if you are donating with the experimental vaccine.

That literally hurt my brain trying to read.

I never wore a motorcycle. Too heavy

Brad Dimond wrote:

The non-partisan approach of the majority of federal judges is fascinating. While there are exceptions, most judges, from the district courts up through the Supreme Court, decide on the basis of the law rather than political considerations. Appointees tend to reflect the philosophy of the President who nominated them but not that President’s political positions.

I agree. Like you said, appointees will likely have a conservative or liberal lean to them (that’s why the president picks them) but they tend to stick to the rule of law and as close to the constitution (and modern-day applications) as possible. And for those that aren’t necessarily left- or right-leaning, who just want the laws and constitution applied accurately to create a simple life as a nation of laws and law and order, it’s refreshing.

I admire Kirk for taking a stand and sticking to his convictions regardless of the mainstream media and its shame tactics. Just like a woman has a choice in regards to her personal health and the right to remove an unborn child from her womb based on the the left’s moral compass, I too along with Kirk have a right to not get vaccinated. If this cost me my job as a result- so be it. They cant find anyone to work at my facility anyways so my tool box has wheels and my card is stamped journeyman. Bring it on!

YES!
It made it to Friday.

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bigpike wrote:

I admire Kirk for taking a stand and sticking to his convictions regardless of the mainstream media and its shame tactics. Just like a woman has a choice in regards to her personal health and the right to remove an unborn child from her womb based on the the left’s moral compass, I too along with Kirk have a right to not get vaccinated. If this cost me my job as a result- so be it. They cant find anyone to work at my facility anyways so my tool box has wheels and my card is stamped journeyman. Bring it on!

Agreed 100 percent. Kinda scary how many are on board to force their beliefs down others throats. Or judge them when they won’t abide.

I also applaud Cousins.

To me the only benefit to getting the shot would be so I wouldn’t have to wear a mask….

But now more and more places are telling vaccinated people that they still have to wear one??

If the vaccine works, what the hell sense does that make?

Asking for a friend

Also worth noting is they want all children vaccinated by late fall/winter.

There is little doubt schools will FORCE your child(ren) to take a shot that they don’t need to attend school.

Thankfully there is a way around it.

If your conscientiously held beliefs keep you from vaccinating your child(ren), they’re legally exempt and will be allowed in school IF you follow the proper protocol below.

Spread the word faster than Covid before the health department website magically has a 404error to this page later in the year.

https://www.health.state.mn.us/people/immunize/basics/notary.html

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Just don’t wear a mask. Its pretty simple. They still have no idea if it helps or not.

Well the singling out has begun at my work place. As unvaccinated will be forced to wear masks. I’ll wear it begrudgingly but once again if I feel it has a bearing on my review or pay scale the wheels on my tool box will go round and round and my journeyman card will travel. They are so hard up for skilled labor or any labor in general I I dought it will come to this but you never know…

Our hospitals just gave us the heads up that we all have to be vaccinated by Oct 31. It’s a condition of our employment. Oh and they decided to throw the flu shot on it for good measure as well.

I am vaccinated but taking away peoples’ careers and livelihood is a really scary thing. Especially when two days after the decision the CDC finally decided to set the record straight on the vaccine not being able to stop transmission (which was a fact from day one).

We have approximately 40% of staff that aren’t vaccinated and we are going to lose a ton of staff due to this. We are already turning away patients because we have no staff. It’s going to get ugly really fast this fall.

Bearcat89 wrote:

Just don’t wear a mask. Its pretty simple. They still have no idea if it helps or not.

I don’t. The only place I ever did wear one was in Menards if I had to go there or in the Nazi gas stations on the north shore lol

I’ve probably worn a mask for 8 hours total in the last year

mahtofire14 wrote:

Our hospitals just gave us the heads up that we all have to be vaccinated by Oct 31. It’s a condition of our employment. Oh and they decided to throw the flu shot on it for good measure as well.

I am vaccinated but taking away peoples’ careers and livelihood is a really scary thing. Especially when two days after the decision the CDC finally decided to set the record straight on the vaccine not being able to stop transmission (which was a fact from day one).

We have approximately 40% of staff that aren’t vaccinated and we are going to lose a ton of staff due to this. We are already turning away patients because we have no staff. It’s going to get ugly really fast this fall.

It’s quite scary that it’s going this route and people just go with the flow.
It’s actually unreal

B-man wrote:

I’ve probably worn a mask for 8 hours total in the last year

You mean you didnt wear a mask while driving alone in your car? The horrors!

mahtofire14 wrote:

Our hospitals just gave us the heads up that we all have to be vaccinated by Oct 31. It’s a condition of our employment. Oh and they decided to throw the flu shot on it for good measure as well.

I am vaccinated but taking away peoples’ careers and livelihood is a really scary thing. Especially when two days after the decision the CDC finally decided to set the record straight on the vaccine not being able to stop transmission (which was a fact from day one).

We have approximately 40% of staff that aren’t vaccinated and we are going to lose a ton of staff due to this. We are already turning away patients because we have no staff. It’s going to get ugly really fast this fall.

Yep that’s pretty f-up

Six months ago Healthcare workers were called HEROS for working through the pandemic with little to no protection.

Now they WILL BE TERMINATED for doing the same.

Absolutely unbelievable….

Since masks work (right?) there is zero reason to threaten their jobs and livelihood if they choose to not have the vaccine.

B-man wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mahtofire14 wrote:</div>
Our hospitals just gave us the heads up that we all have to be vaccinated by Oct 31. It’s a condition of our employment. Oh and they decided to throw the flu shot on it for good measure as well.

I am vaccinated but taking away peoples’ careers and livelihood is a really scary thing. Especially when two days after the decision the CDC finally decided to set the record straight on the vaccine not being able to stop transmission (which was a fact from day one).

We have approximately 40% of staff that aren’t vaccinated and we are going to lose a ton of staff due to this. We are already turning away patients because we have no staff. It’s going to get ugly really fast this fall.

Yep that’s pretty f-up

Six months ago Healthcare workers were called HEROS for working through the pandemic with little to no protection.

Now they WILL BE TERMINATED for doing the same.

Absolutely unbelievable….

Since masks work (right?) there is zero reason to threaten their jobs and livelihood if they choose to not have the vaccine.

My wife will be one of the people losing her job.

The thanks she gets for taking care of many extremely sick covid patients during the surge.

big_g wrote:

Just wow…so your saying if you are vaccinated against Polio, Measles and Smallpox… and you are vaccinated against Covid and can still get it, they are the same ?

Yes

Do you think you can’t get polio, measles, or smallpox when you are vaccinated? They aren’t 100% effective either.

Reef W wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>big_g wrote:</div>
Just wow…so your saying if you are vaccinated against Polio, Measles and Smallpox… and you are vaccinated against Covid and can still get it, they are the same ?

Yes

Do you think you can’t get polio, measles, or smallpox when you are vaccinated? They aren’t 100% effective either.

That’s the point.. Polio, Measles, Small Pox, do you hear people screaming that everybody needs these vaccinations ? Nope, just the Covid… because Fauci and his media said so.

I guess the part about Cousins that I am bothered by is that his actions most certainly will affect his team. The NFL has very specific rules and protocol on this and he’s agreed to follow them because of his high risk status now. What’s gonna happen in week 18 if this very same incident occurs and he’s out with a playoff berth on the line? If I was one of his teammates I’d be pretty upset about that. I could see this costing Mike Zimmer his job. This past week has caused a big distraction from what they should really be focusing on, which is training camp and preparing for the upcoming season.

To clarify, I’m not upset because he or anyone has chosen to take this path, but it could start affecting a team and their play and their locker room and potentially their record.

mahtofire14 wrote:

Our hospitals just gave us the heads up that we all have to be vaccinated by Oct 31. It’s a condition of our employment. Oh and they decided to throw the flu shot on it for good measure as well.

My wife is an Imaging Technologist for Park Nicollet and they have communicated similar information. The caveat is that its not required until the FDA approves it for Standard Authorization (this fall sometime?). They have been required to be vaccinated for influenza every year since she’s been working there (6 years).

Dan wrote:

<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Brad Dimond wrote:</div>
The non-partisan approach of the majority of federal judges is fascinating. While there are exceptions, most judges, from the district courts up through the Supreme Court, decide on the basis of the law rather than political considerations. Appointees tend to reflect the philosophy of the President who nominated them but not that President’s political positions.

I agree. Like you said, appointees will likely have a conservative or liberal lean to them (that’s why the president picks them) but they tend to stick to the rule of law and as close to the constitution (and modern-day applications) as possible. And for those that aren’t necessarily left- or right-leaning, who just want the laws and constitution applied accurately to create a simple life as a nation of laws and law and order, it’s refreshing.

I think it’s pretty much been shown during the Trump era there are many, many liberal judges that are ruling based on politics and not the law.

big_g wrote:

That’s the point.. Polio, Measles, Small Pox, do you hear people screaming that everybody needs these vaccinations ? Nope, just the Covid… because Fauci and his media said so.

I’m not sure if this is satire or not. Do you have kids? Because pretty much every kid gets these IPV (polio), MMR (Measles, Mumps and Rubella) vaccines. Smallpox was basically (but not entirely) eradicated from the world due to the vaccines effectiveness, but if it came back we would be able to quickly combat it with the Smallpox vaccine. About 4 years ago there was a measles outbreak in the Cities due to a large segment of anti-vaxxers, mainly of Somali descent, and when we had our kid around that time most MSP hospitals didn’t allow underage visitors to the newborn floor because of the outbreak. Oddly enough when we had our second child in January we couldn’t have any visitors due to Covid. Thankfully we are done having kids now

Anyway I think Kirk has a big year if he can stay out of Covid protocol.