What’s the A Rodge situation?

  • BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2050990

    Aaron Rodgers career earnings
    To this point, Rodgers has earned almost a quarter of a billion dollars in 16 seasons as an NFL player

    And if he plays as long as Brady, he would almost double that amount! Brady will be 44 at the start of the season, so that would be 7 more seasons for ARodg at $30+ million per year.

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10380
    #2051034

    Thanks Troutbum,
    I started watching the video, got about a 1/4 way through and puked on my keyboard.

    Never have I heard a professional athlete speak that seriously about how great they are.

    FYI Aaron, I know you think you are the greatest, but you aren’t.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2051050

    Say what you want about him but any player like that should have a say in things or at least be involved.

    That’s where you’re wrong. No player’s job description is to scout draft picks, work trades, pick up free agents, or manage the salary cap. That’s where general managers and scouts come in. They spend countless hours looking at players on film and working the business angle for their team. Quarterbacks, well, they play quarterback. That’s where Rodgers misses the target. He is not a scout or a manager so stop pretending to be one. He is a damn good quarterback in this league and the reigning MVP but that doesn’t mean you get to manage the team.

    Randall Cobb is way past his prime. He’s been hurt for significant portion of the last couple years. I can see him with turf toe or a sprained ankle by week 3.

    catmando
    wis
    Posts: 1811
    #2051060

    Hell, bring back Jordy and JJ and buy the wheelchairs! Shouda got 2, 1st rounders and a defensive lineman, my 2 cents.

    bigpike
    Posts: 6259
    #2051075

    As long as we get our mvp quarterback I could care less about 1 6th round draft pick for an old receiver from a team who ate 3 million to trade him. Great deal for the packers. Cheap insurance to keep cali boy happy

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3755
    #2051082

    I don’t have a problem with Rodgers having input. Input is just his opinion. We all have an opinion. Problem is what happens when management doesn’t agree with him? What happens when he is all butt hurt over some player he thinks needs to stay and the team lets them walk?

    There is a saying in professional sports: Better to get rid of a player a year too early than a year too late.

    ClownColor
    Inactive
    The Back 40
    Posts: 1955
    #2051107

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KP wrote:</div>
    Say what you want about him but any player like that should have a say in things or at least be involved.

    That’s where you’re wrong. No player’s job description is to scout draft picks, work trades, pick up free agents, or manage the salary cap.

    Yes an no…While it’s not their “job” it affects them greatly. If I was Rodgers, I’d have also been pissed that they wasted a draft on a QB and traded up for a first rounder. Rodgers is elite…no question about it. There should be communication on where they see the team heading and what their draft priorities are. Wasting a top pick on a QB instead of a a defensive player, hot WR or RB (or wherever they lack) would have benefitted Rodgers and made him more of a threat. Rodgers wants to win Super bowls. Drafting a QB did not help Rodgers on bit, nor did it help the Packers…but I can’t stand Rodgers or the Packers so it’s great to see this organization fail.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1369
    #2051112

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>KP wrote:</div>
    Say what you want about him but any player like that should have a say in things or at least be involved.

    That’s where you’re wrong. No player’s job description is to scout draft picks, work trades, pick up free agents, or manage the salary cap. That’s where general managers and scouts come in. They spend countless hours looking at players on film and working the business angle for their team. Quarterbacks, well, they play quarterback. That’s where Rodgers misses the target. He is not a scout or a manager so stop pretending to be one. He is a damn good quarterback in this league and the reigning MVP but that doesn’t mean you get to manage the team.

    Randall Cobb is way past his prime. He’s been hurt for significant portion of the last couple years. I can see him with turf toe or a sprained ankle by week 3.

    For most players they should let the front office do their work but when you have a top player like that I think you should include them in a teams direction. Heck at my job I get asked to sit in on interviews to see if a candidate would be a good fit on our team. If I was a GM I would bring in the coach and my QB to ask their input on guys I would want to bring in.

    I think Cobb will be a great mentor but also agree he is past his prime and very injury prone but hey for a 6th rounder I’ll take it. The receiver room is now pretty packed and I wonder now who will get cut.

    toddrun
    Posts: 513
    #2051114

    Rodgers didn’t win anything here, despite what media is saying. He is still in the same exact boat he was in before all this hoopla. The Packers organization still holds all the cards, and they have Rodgers back. The only power he holds is how he performs and how much of a cancer he can be in the locker room.

    Rodgers feelings got hurt, he put in a big power move, but the contract wins out in the end, and he is playing for the Pack this year, again. With no changes, other than a token used up WR friend that cost the Pack virtually nothing.

    Its what the Pack does with the cap money they got back from Rodgers that will make any real difference.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11570
    #2051120

    “If they want you to cook the meal, they should at least let you shop for the groceries” Bill Parcells infamously said that, and a generational HOF QB should have some input on who he throws to imo.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2051126

    For most players they should let the front office do their work but when you have a top player like that I think you should include them in a teams direction. Heck at my job I get asked to sit in on interviews to see if a candidate would be a good fit on our team. If I was a GM I would bring in the coach and my QB to ask their input on guys I would want to bring in.

    I think Cobb will be a great mentor but also agree he is past his prime and very injury prone but hey for a 6th rounder I’ll take it. The receiver room is now pretty packed and I wonder now who will get cut.

    I can respect your opinion on this. Being able to sit in on an interview for a candidate that you will be working with is a nice perk, wherever you work. I don’t think he had the correct angle when he started all this nonsense because they didn’t consult him when they drafted a potential future QB though. That seems to be his biggest beef with general management. In the end, he is still only a player (albeit the most important one). I think its possible he goes out there and plays with a chip on his shoulder this season because of all this too. It could also back fire, and he plays poorly, the team struggles, etc. Then there will be more drama.

    Rodgers didn’t win anything here, despite what media is saying.

    I think he now has the ability to leave the organization after this season to a team of his own choosing. He did not have that option before. His only 2 options were to play GB or retire. After this season, he can choose his own path forward. I could see him selecting a team that plays GB regularly so he can stick it to his old team, like the previous HOF QB for the Packers…

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
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    #2051127

    Input & dictate are two different words.

    KP
    Hudson, WI
    Posts: 1369
    #2051132

    The Packers will not trade him to a team in the same conference at all. He will go to the AFC if a trade happens.

    I still think drafting Love was the dumbest decision ever when your team was one win away from going to the Super Bowl in a deep draft. You have holes to fill and you choose to draft a position that is the most secure?!? I will never get it and Gutey needs to go.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2051134

    The Packers will not trade him to a team in the same conference at all. He will go to the AFC if a trade happens.

    The Packers don’t get to decide that. Rodgers does. That was recently part of the negotiated deal. If he wants to go to the Bears or Vikings, there’s nothing they can do now after this season.

    toddrun
    Posts: 513
    #2051135

    Rodgers is NOT free to leave the team after this year. He got back his 2023 year, which means the Pack still have him through the 2022 season. It likely means he will be traded a year earlier, but if the Pack want they can keep him through next season as well, making no other changes.

    So he did gain 1 year, if you want to call that a win. But, in reality, the Pack would have likely traded him anyways, with a transition to Love before they have to extend his contract.

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2051139

    Rodgers is NOT free to leave the team after this year. He got back his 2023 year, which means the Pack still have him through the 2022 season.

    Thanks for clarifying that. I thought it was after this season. So there is still the possibility that he goes to a rival to stick it to his old team even though that is unlikely.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
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    #2051153

    I watched the whole press conference. I see nothing wrong with it. I thought it was refreshingly transparent.

    stout93
    Becker MN
    Posts: 959
    #2051157

    The Packers will not trade him to a team in the same conference at all. He will go to the AFC if a trade happens.

    I still think drafting Love was the dumbest decision ever when your team was one win away from going to the Super Bowl in a deep draft. You have holes to fill and you choose to draft a position that is the most secure?!? I will never get it and Gutey needs to go.

    True. And they took a third string running back in the second round of the same draft..

    toddrun
    Posts: 513
    #2051165

    Gutekunst actually stated this morning that the 3rd year of Rodgers contract has NOT been removed, but may be changed later.

    So Rodgers did not get anything. Pack are still in full control of him for 3 more years under contract, and at least 1 more year after that if they want to franchise tag him. Could get very UGLY going forward, but Rodgers bent over backwards to come back to the team.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
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    #2051203

    You don’t think watching Brady get a fresh start had anything to do with it?

    A new team, management willing to listen, get some old teammates to join, and go win a Super Bowl??

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16646
    #2051237

    Could get very UGLY going forward, but Rodgers bent over backwards to come back to the team.

    I’m confused. What did Erin do other then honor his contract and save himself $50K in fines a day?

    Eelpoutguy
    Farmington, Outing
    Posts: 10380
    #2051253

    I watched the whole press conference. I see nothing wrong with it. I thought it was refreshingly transparent.

    I agree, he showed his true colors.

    toddrun
    Posts: 513
    #2051374

    Rodgers effectively only got 1 year removed from his contract. Here is the latest –

    Quote – And so Rodgers, after everything that happened in the past three months, technically got only one thing for returning — the elimination of the 2023 season. (The timing of the void also prevents them from tagging him in 2023, if it gets to that point. So he arguably got two thing.)

    The fact that the Packers didn’t formally waive their ability to pursue $11.5 million in previously paid (but technically not-yet-earned bonus money) makes it just a little more likely that they’ll get to that point than if they’d waived that power. Still, Rodgers and his camp currently believe that, if he chooses to take a stand in 2022, he won’t have to worry about the $11.5 million.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
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    #2060025

    Maybe training camp would have been a good decision after all. Wow, the Packers got stamped today!

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3755
    #2060034

    Rodgers looked like the rookie today. doah
    Maybe the starters should play preseason games to prove that they deserve to be starters. JMO

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #2060040

    “If they want you to cook the meal, they should at least let you shop for the groceries” Bill Parcells infamously said that, and a generational HOF QB should have some input on who he throws to imo.

    Agree. But in a consulting/chatting over drinks kinda stuff.

    Ton of distracting drama crap in the off-season that can’t help with positivity.

    Mango Tango
    Posts: 24
    #2060041

    I’ve never understood the mindset of not participating in any preseason games. Sure, you may not need the practice but the other 10 guys around you, not to mention reserves, may benefit from semi-real speed situations. For the ultimate team game, I’d think that’s important.

    I just think back to the story on Joe Montana later in his career leaving a film study on the West Coast offense with pages of notes when he assisted with pioneering it. Humility goes a long way which has never been a Rodger’s strength.

    belletaine
    Nevis, MN
    Posts: 5116
    #2060045

    Off topic but I think Matt Stafford is going to have a pretty solid season. He’s a tough SOB and has to be damn happy to be out of Detroit

    gimruis
    Plymouth, MN
    Posts: 17246
    #2060064

    Off topic but I think Matt Stafford is going to have a pretty solid season. He’s a tough SOB and has to be damn happy to be out of Detroit

    The Rams already had a pretty solid squad. Lack of a high quality QB (Goff) was perhaps the once piece they were missing.

    The NFC West is a very tough division. All 4 teams can’t make the playoffs even though they all look like they should.

    big_g
    Isle, MN
    Posts: 22418
    #2060226

    Rodgers is now complaining about the exact thing that happened to Brett Favre… jester

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