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  • Mike m
    Posts: 237
    #1987122

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>mojogunter wrote:</div>
    Maybe he had enough and canceled his account. I hope he wasn’t tossed. There have been direct threats to members on this site by other members and not even a small vacation for the threat. I was amazed they were still posting the next day. Must be buddies with a moderator. I am almost done with site too if things don’t calm down. I think he canceled his account.

    X 2

    x3 . Down to a couple people who’s posts I always read . Iowaboy’s mechanical knowledge, and FBRM fishing reports , have learned alot from both . Hope Tom comes back

    Pailofperch
    Central Mn North of the smiley water tower
    Posts: 2956
    #1987128

    Tom is the older gentleman I would hand pick to be my next door neighbor. I haven’t met him yet, but would like to. If a guy like him can get the boot here, do any of us have a chance?

    Deuces
    Posts: 5268
    #1987130

    It’s 2020 folks. Lots of hotheads around everywhere.

    As a person that’s been banned, and taken personal leaves myself I can say for certain none of your issues now will be resolved by “staying away”. Make a choice not to click, and choose not to be into the crap that upsets you.

    I have no clue what got Tom gone or left, as a father of 3 native children he was an arrogant racist @ss at times, but a man who had unbelievable insights into many different things.

    With all that said I sure do hope he comes back when the time is right for all parties.

    basseyes
    Posts: 2569
    #1987131

    Miss Iowaboy and will miss Tom. What a shame.

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3946
    #1987137

    Wow! Somehow I missed that iowaboy was gone. Had noticed he hadn’t posted recently but he is a busy boy. I just figured he was busy with the shop.

    Hate to say it but if Tom, ib, and epg are gone there are several radicals on here that stir the pot that should be gone also.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #1987139

    Trump lost this election didnt he? Move on Republicans

    No he didn’t but nice try turning this into yet another political post.

    Mark Uidenich
    Posts: 39
    #1987140

    Just like the Demorats did for the last 4 years?😑

    Deuces
    Posts: 5268
    #1987143

    Hate to say it but if Tom, ib, and epg are gone there are several radicals on here that stir the pot that should be gone also.

    I’m fairly certain epg and ib just have other better things going on. They check in once in awhile I think. Certainly not booted

    mxskeeter
    SW Wisconsin
    Posts: 3946
    #1987146

    Thanks for the update Beads.

    targaman
    Inactive
    Wilton, WI
    Posts: 2759
    #1987152

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bobberstop4054 wrote:</div>
    Trump lost this election didnt he? Move on Republicans

    No he didn’t but nice try turning this into yet another political post.

    You’re delusional just like your twice impeached president. We all know what side of the isle the administrator leans to. I don’t believe Tom was a trumper… makes sense. My account can be deleted now.

    catmando
    wis
    Posts: 1811
    #1987154

    Ditto with me, delete my hinderbinder! going to the tree!

    tbro16
    Inactive
    St Paul
    Posts: 1170
    #1987155

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>suzuki wrote:</div>

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>bobberstop4054 wrote:</div>
    Trump lost this election didnt he? Move on Republicans

    No he didn’t but nice try turning this into yet another political post.

    You’re delusional just like your twice impeached president. We all know what side of the isle the administrator leans to. I don’t believe Tom was a trumper… makes sense. My account can be deleted now.

    If it bothers you that much then just leave. I don’t think with comments like that anyone will miss what you have to say.

    What did Iowaboy say to get dusted? I agree with others that have stated the mods have been frustrating lately. I’ve felt they’ve don’t a very poor job since the beginning of these covid “discussions”

    Bearcat89
    North branch, mn
    Posts: 20815
    #1987156

    This site won’t last long. At least not how it was a while back and a few years ago.
    With all the new guys who came in just to argue all day, this place has transformed in to a wasted space. Which is to bad.
    I also think I’ll be deleting my self from here.
    Iowa boy texted me letting me know he was gone as well.
    Thats sad

    Paulski
    “Ever Wonder Why There Are No Democrats On Mount Rushmore ? "
    Posts: 1198
    #1987158

    I reply with hesitation, as I might make somebody’s blacklist as apparently that is where we are as a country, we are now opening discussing blacklisting people for what they believe ( not just in Hollywood either ) Can’t be a good sign on any level that the thought police are moving in. I thought McCarthyism was over in this country, but apparently not. Can’t say this is helping bring our country ” together ”

    That being said, I am pretty sure our current President until January 20th the last time I checked the constitution, was not impeached, he was acquitted. I think you have to make your own determination as to why articles were brought and their intent along with the possibility of them succeeding in the Senate.

    As far as the election, in case anyone is wondering why so many people are questioning this election, perhaps a little history lesson back to the last election would jar your memory. I seem to remember quite a few people who claimed our current president was not legitimate. In fact, I also seem to remember that quite a few people choose not to attend his inauguration. Sure seems like the seeds of what we are seeing now were sown in the not too distant past and the 4 years that have not followed it which have been anything but positive on virtually every level. I would actually say faith in our elections has gone straight downhill since 2000 one. Again, something everyone needs to determine on their own.

    So, that leaves us where we are today, an election unlike any other in my memory and I have been voting in them since 1988. As I like to tell my kids, complaining is easy, coming up with solutions is much harder. The question is how do you restore faith in our elections.

    Let’s try …..

    Step one, get every single political party OUT of the election process. Nobody who has a vested interest in the result should be part of the process. That seems pretty obvious, and that is from top to bottom, from people running the elections that are elected down to ” observers”

    Step two, as much as it kills me to say it, we need part-time federal or state officials that run the election. Professionals, not party folk.

    Step three set the rules for the election and stick by them.

    Step 4, standardize where possible the ballots and also how you can vote. We have way too many states all doing their own thing. That’s great for Sesame Street, but not so great in an election as some states are still ” counting ”

    Our country is falling apart folks right down the middle, we are split just like the turkey in Christmas vacation. Where we go from here will determine what we hand over to our children. Perhaps we should concentrate on what we can agree on versus things we used to respectfully disagree on.

    That’s all. Stay Healthy

    Paulski

    Deuces
    Posts: 5268
    #1987163

    Iowa boy texted me letting me know he was gone as well.
    Thats sad

    His account is still active.

    Rest isn’t directed at you bear.

    Freedom involves more than the stars and stripes, it’s also choices.

    When I click into a mille lacs thread, guess what, even years ago I knew that it very well could end up in a $hitshow. Same goes with any type of enforcement thread, always those few butthurt fellas who hate any type of shields.

    Covid and quarantine and everything else this year has everyone on edge. Rightfully so. Don’t scapegoat a website for it.

    John Rasmussen
    Blaine
    Posts: 6462
    #1987188

    Agree Beads well said. We have a great website here my opinion it is my only social media whatsoever. I have learned a lot from some of the great people on this site. Iowa boy being one of them hope you come back soon. We have seen offers to borrow equipment, flat out give someone what was stolen from them, or offer help to a person in need. We need to come together on here and in the real world and stop all the back and forth. And please to whomever that feels the need to make every single damn post political just leave it alone man!

    basseyes
    Posts: 2569
    #1987199

    The climate of people in general is getting so toxic.

    BigWerm
    SW Metro
    Posts: 11889
    #1987204

    The climate of people in general is getting so toxic.

    It is, and that is a good reminder that you can either add positivity to the world, or add to the toxicity (not you specifically Basseyes, I mean for all reading this). I try and keep a balance, as I think it’s important to discuss the difficult issues of the day, but it’s more important to add a net positive to the world, including the online world. Picking your battles and scrolling pass the bs is usually best for all aspects, mental health, productivity, maintaining friendships etc. There’s a lot more that unites us, than divides us, focus on the good.

    Hopefully Tom, IB, EPG, or anyone else are just taking a little break and will be back once things settle down.

    SuperDave1959
    Harrisville, UT
    Posts: 2816
    #1987205

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>Bearcat89 wrote:</div>
    Iowa boy texted me letting me know he was gone as well.
    Thats sad

    His account is still active.

    I’ll mention it again in hopes that someone can correct me. There is no self membership delete option on this site. If someone chooses to leave the site permanently, their account will show permanently active. My suspicion is that sites like this receive sponsorship/advertising based on member size.

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #1987208

    The climate of people in general is getting so toxic.

    I agree but what if this REALLY IS a struggle between good and evil? If it is I hope good prevails.
    Here’s a short video from yesterday from the actor Jon Voight. Take it as entertainment but consider what IF he’s right? Just consider it.

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16788
    #1987209

    What many forget is EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion. Because mine doesn’t align with yours doesn’t make mine right or yours wrong.

    We have people here who have been banned and come back under different names. They think they are clever and nobody knows but people figure it out.

    The election was a flashpoint and hopefully it dies out now. Those that want to continue to push a agenda will be the next to go bye bye i’m afraid.

    AnotherFisherman
    Posts: 615
    #1987219

    What a shame. I enjoyed Tom’s posts. He was very insightful.

    Edit – delete

    dirtywater
    Posts: 1627
    #1987235

    If the owners of this site wanted to permanently ban a user, they would be banning IP addresses and not just deleting accounts. They know when a user comes back and re-registers — its not difficult to ascertain — and they allow that. Every click and every post has the potential to make them money and that’s the entire purpose of a business. The way I see it, they’re just trying to make an example of Tom, and they probably hope he comes back for 10,000 more posts that add to the wealth of content they OWN. (Because the second I hit submit on this post it becomes the property of IDO in perpetuity.)

    basseyes
    Posts: 2569
    #1987239

    The problem starts to be when we all loose track that both sides are comprised of people, not just ideals. People are not the sum of what their political leanings are. But we’ve turned everything into a war of will’s and last words. You can grind an axe all day long and twice on Sunday’s, but bottom line is we all have opinions and beliefs that aren’t going to change, unless we want them to. In trying to change someone else, we fail to see how hard the reverse is. Empathy and compassion go a lot farther than arguing over stuff we will never agree on. We’ve lost that and don’t feel we as a country are ever getting it back, not sure we ever really had it. Both politcal sides disgust me personally right now and the bickering gets tiresome. What’s the old analogy, arguing with a fool only proves there’s 2.

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5949
    #1987240

    Agree Beads well said. We have a great website here my opinion it is my only social media whatsoever. I have learned a lot from some of the great people on this site. Iowa boy being one of them hope you come back soon. We have seen offers to borrow equipment, flat out give someone what was stolen from them, or offer help to a person in need. We need to come together on here and in the real world and stop all the back and forth. And please to whomever that feels the need to make every single damn post political just leave it alone man!

    X2

    Dutchboy
    Central Mn.
    Posts: 16788
    #1987241

    Just a FYI, we all have been warned on the politics & Covid thing. It was made well known that the ownership and moderators weren’t on board with the discussions. However I think they realized they were a hot button current event subjects and kind of let things go for awhile. Now, the election is over, the attacks have continued and in some cases increased. I’m pretty sure (in fact positive) you will see the Covid and political discussions shut down. It’s been proven that we can’t discuss things civilly here so they will shut them down. It would come as no surprise if repeat offenders were tossed for a time out.

    Time to let things go guys.

    (The above is my opinion only grin )

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5949
    #1987242

    <div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>basseyes wrote:</div>
    The climate of people in general is getting so toxic.

    It it, and that is a good reminder that you can either add positivity to the world, or add to the toxicity (not you specifically Basseyes, I mean for all reading this). I try and keep a balance, as I think it’s important to discuss the difficult issues of the day, but it’s more important to add a net positive to the world, including the online world. Picking your battles and scrolling pass the bs is usually best for all aspects, mental health, productivity, maintaining friendships etc. There’s a lot more that unites us, than divides us, focus on the good.

    Hopefully Tom, IB, EPG, or anyone else are just taking a little break and will be back once things settle down.

    Agree

    lindyrig79
    Forest Lake / Lake Mille Lacs
    Posts: 5949
    #1987243

    The problem starts to be when we all loose track that both sides are comprised of people, not just ideals. People are not the sum of what their political leanings are. But we’ve turned everything into a war of will’s and last words. You can grind an axe all day long and twice on Sunday’s, but bottom line is we all have opinions and beliefs that aren’t going to change, unless we want them to. In trying to change someone else, we fail to see how hard the reverse is. Empathy and compassion go a lot farther than arguing over stuff we will never agree on. We’ve lost that and don’t feel we as a country are ever getting it back, not sure we ever really had it. Both politcal sides disgust me personally right now and the bickering gets tiresome. What’s the old analogy, arguing with a fool only proves there’s 2.

    Well said

    munchy
    NULL
    Posts: 4947
    #1987287

    I’ve left numerous forums and websites because of various reasons. Didn’t see any need to announce it. I just…..left….. coffee

    suzuki
    Woodbury, Mn
    Posts: 18715
    #1987301

    The problem starts to be when we all loose track that both sides are comprised of people, not just ideals. People are not the sum of what their political leanings are. But we’ve turned everything into a war of will’s and last words. You can grind an axe all day long and twice on Sunday’s, but bottom line is we all have opinions and beliefs that aren’t going to change, unless we want them to. In trying to change someone else, we fail to see how hard the reverse is. Empathy and compassion go a lot farther than arguing over stuff we will never agree on. We’ve lost that and don’t feel we as a country are ever getting it back, not sure we ever really had it. Both politcal sides disgust me personally right now and the bickering gets tiresome. What’s the old analogy, arguing with a fool only proves there’s 2.

    Sensible. Thanks.

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