Hevi -Metal

  • reever_1
    Rochester Minnesota
    Posts: 100
    October 21, 2009 at 3:21 pm #213200

    Has anyone out here tried this if so did you like it?

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    October 21, 2009 at 3:46 pm #64201

    don’t need that fancy ammo, when you can finish the birds into the decoys…

    learn how to call better, and pay attention to what does and doesn’t work with decoy spreads, and you can spend 10 bucks on a box of shells, and not worry about it.

    SLACK
    HASTINGS, MN
    Posts: 711
    October 21, 2009 at 4:12 pm #64203

    i’m with perch on this one.

    big_hunter
    eagan, mn
    Posts: 178
    October 21, 2009 at 4:58 pm #64210

    ive used it with good results on turkey, but i think steel has improved enough that you can get the knockdown power from it just as easy.

    timdomaille
    Rochester Mn
    Posts: 1908
    October 21, 2009 at 7:39 pm #64245

    Quote:

    don’t need that fancy ammo, when you can finish the birds into the decoys…

    learn how to call better, and pay attention to what does and doesn’t work with decoy spreads, and you can spend 10 bucks on a box of shells, and not worry about it.

    WOW that’s harsh coming from a guy that has ” One step a head of the Warden” in his avatar. So that means eveytime you shoot, the birds are right at your feet?

    So you are saying you do not need to use Bis or Tungsten shot? Steel does work just fine. If I could afford it, I would shoot nothing but Hevi-Shot!

    sauger
    Hastings ,MN
    Posts: 2442
    October 21, 2009 at 9:06 pm #64264

    I would comment on this but my hunting skills may get shredded…………

    deertracker
    Posts: 9253
    October 21, 2009 at 9:17 pm #64267

    Quote:

    don’t need that fancy ammo, when you can finish the birds into the decoys…

    learn how to call better, and pay attention to what does and doesn’t work with decoy spreads, and you can spend 10 bucks on a box of shells, and not worry about it.

    Most of the people on here are very helpful and I’m sure someone will jump in and actually give you a usefull answer.
    DT

    ben_dvoracek
    Eden Prairie, MN
    Posts: 108
    October 21, 2009 at 9:30 pm #64270

    I have had really good success with Federal’s Black Cloud Ammo.

    flatlandfowler
    SC/SW MN
    Posts: 1081
    October 21, 2009 at 10:28 pm #64276

    Friend of mine bought some for early season. He loved um on the first day, hated um on the last day. ??? Im guessing this was based on what he saw after he cut one open. A large portion of the shot was irregular in shape, quite irregular as a matter of fact. One shell cant define a product of even a case at that matter though. Cant hurt to pick up a box and see if they are what your looking for.
    Every one that i hunt with who has used the Black Cloud absolutely loves them. Might want to do some research if you are using an after market choke however. The wad in those things works on the same premise as the patternmaster choke tube and they do-NOT advise shooting them through your normal patternmaster. They make a special patternmaster for the black cloud wad.

    rangerski
    North Metro
    Posts: 539
    October 21, 2009 at 10:31 pm #64278

    Black Cloud and a patternmaster get the nod from this rainmaker…. unreal killing power, racked snows at 70 yds last weekend, crazy….

    kris_brantner
    My river
    Posts: 1678
    October 21, 2009 at 11:01 pm #64281

    i do not think you need anything special for ducks. i shoot fiocchi, 105 shipped to my door per case. 3 in number 2s. if i know i am only killing geese, then yes i like to buy little better shells. i live hevi steel. have been shooting that for the last couple years early goose and late goose season. i agree even my cheep 10 dollar a box shells and i can kill ducks up to 50 yards with my patternmaster. hey it even killed a swan at 50 60 yards in nodak a week ago

    deertracker
    Posts: 9253
    October 22, 2009 at 1:05 am #64292

    If Black Cloud has a special wad do you still need an aftermarket choke? Or could you get by with a factory one. I have a couple friends who shoot it and love it. I overbought shells a few years ago and still trying to get rid of them but when they are gone I might look into something else.
    DT

    timdomaille
    Rochester Mn
    Posts: 1908
    October 22, 2009 at 1:00 pm #64324

    I would be very careful shooting Black Cloud out of a Patternmaster. The wad could get lodged in the choke. Just an FYI.

    I use Tungsten everytime I can afford to get some. The stuff is amazing on how fast it kills. Late season geese take a beating.

    boods1
    Lancaster, WI
    Posts: 88
    October 22, 2009 at 1:13 pm #64328

    Hevi-Metal….crushes ducks

    mossboss
    La Crescent, MN
    Posts: 2792
    October 22, 2009 at 6:06 pm #64363

    When Hevi shot first came out, I tried it and it was absolutley amazing. And expensive, bt not nearly as expensive as it is now. #6 hevi for mallards was game set match. The difference was the cripples. There was none. They seemed to hit the water stone dead. I’m sure it works exactly the same now, but it has gotten so expensive I can’t use bring myself to use it.

    Bought some Black Cloud for the first time two weeks ago. I thought the whole “belted pellet” thing was a gimmick, but after cleaning birds shot with it this last weekend, somehow it DOES make a much bigger wound channel. Stuff really seems to pattern tight, I’m going to have to try it out on a pattern board.

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    October 22, 2009 at 8:04 pm #64375

    Quote:

    WOW that’s harsh coming from a guy that has ” One step a head of the Warden” in his avatar. So that means eveytime you shoot, the birds are right at your feet?

    So you are saying you do not need to use Bis or Tungsten shot? Steel does work just fine. If I could afford it, I would shoot nothing but Hevi-Shot!

    what does my location comment have to do with anything? and in case you haven’t figured it out…its a joke.

    and yes, i shoot drakes….feet down… you can have all the pass shooting at trash ducks you want.

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    October 22, 2009 at 8:08 pm #64376

    Quote:

    I would be very careful shooting Black Cloud out of a Patternmaster. The wad could get lodged in the choke. Just an FYI.

    i may be mistaken on this, but i believe they now make a Patternmaster specifically for black cloud, because of the wad jam issues.

    perch_44
    One step ahead of the Warden.
    Posts: 1589
    October 22, 2009 at 8:12 pm #64378

    Quote:

    Quote:

    don’t need that fancy ammo, when you can finish the birds into the decoys…

    learn how to call better, and pay attention to what does and doesn’t work with decoy spreads, and you can spend 10 bucks on a box of shells, and not worry about it.

    Most of the people on here are very helpful and I’m sure someone will jump in and actually give you a usefull answer.
    DT

    jeez, people sure are sensitive….

    but, a more serious reply for people then – yes, i like all of the non-tox loads, and they knock down the birds very effectively, but i’m cheap, and unwilling to spend the money on it. but, most of the places i hunt, we are shooting decoying birds, and at 25 yards, IMO you do not need to use Hevishot, or Bismuth.

    now, for spring snows, i do shoot non-tox, if i can get a good price on it, and for goose hunting i will shoot non-tox if i get a good price on it. but, i do not worry about it when hunting decoying ducks. it is just over kill on the birds and my wallet, for no reason.

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