Dave that’s not the answer, voting on photos 
come on guys. I’m really surpised this post or thread has not got deleted. This is a fishing report forum. There is a General Discussion forum for this bull. Please take this off line.
You know you guys are making me read way more than I should have to 
But this post has been kept very clean and thats the best thing that has come out of this post.
One’s views are exactly that,,,,”One’s Views” ,,,none of us can say weather anyone’s view is right nore wrong…We all have views, some of us share ours and some of us keep them to ourselves.
No one person has the right to make someone change anothers mind. Feel free to express your opinion, Yes !!!
But Making someone change their mind , because other people are doing it that way… naaaaa not gonna happen that way here…
If we all did things the same way what a boring world we would live in..We all live together, none of us are the same (thank god for that 
) yet we all get along…very well here too i might add…
I thank everyone for their views on this subject, I see no need to delete this post as long as it stay clean..
thanks again , now go play on another post
“He who is convinced against his will, is of the same opinion still”
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If we all did things the same way what a boring world we would live in..We all live together, none of us are the same (thank god for that
Yes we are all different. Some of us are just a little more different than the others. LOL 
Gator Hunter
Well said ReefRunner. Very well said 
Jeff your right, this should be on the general discussion forum but I would to see it deleted. Lots of good stuff!As far as the photos go MAH is right about them being politicly incorrect but I wonder if we should be concerned with that.I for one am happy to be a predator and don,t think we should hide or apoligize for it.This site is mostly made up of avid anglers who know that a few fish on a stringer don’t equal a depleted resource. As for MAH being a troll I dissagree. He was clear calm and polite with his post.As this site gets larger we will have more varied opinions and I believe that is good for all. We will also know each other less well which is not as good but is unavoidable.I hope MAH stays on the site and Keeps posting and I hope the site stays as open and interesting as it has in the past. By the way I think a photo contest would be cool.
Well I think everyone else has given there 2 cents worth on this … why not me. Well as far as MaH, you can’t help feeling that his post was put here to stir up the pot after all he is a new member and this was basically his first post and he didn’t put in any information on his profile.
With respect to his post, Yes I do feel at times this board seems to do a lot to hump products and guides but heck as someone mentioned James is the one paying for this so what do you expect.
As far as stringers of fish go. I don’t have a problem with it. I’m assuming these fish are going to be consumed by someone who feels they are safe to eat and taste ok.
As far as the law goes I would assume also that the DNR would make changes when they see it fit to make them. I’ve seen changes made in regulation in the past in my home state out east where limits were reduce and catch and release rules were implimented. That made me Mad as Hell but I also knew it was a necesary. If your over 40 I’m sure you can reflect back to when there were fewer people and also fewer fishermen.
I hate to say it but I think its just a matter of time till changes are made at Pool 4 too.
As far as Catch and Release goes I doubt any walleye fisherman practices a real catch and release where they use barbless hooks and don’t bring the fish in the boat. Out east in trout waters you’re even restricted to either artifical lures or flys (no bait).
So bottom line I think MadasHell is really enjoying the response he got… its almost like a computer virus.
Gentlemen,
i would like to start by apologizing. It seems the the Username i chose may have injected a bit more venom into my comments than I had intended. I did choose it to grab the attention of viewers here. I don’t think we would have had quite such a debate had i chose, say, Miles O’ Smiles.
I intend to stay anonymous. And if you took a look at BOLA’s profile ( before he changed it, obviously) you will understand why. I know his may have been a joke but there are folks out there that believe that is the best way to silence a critic.
Some of my closest and dearest friends are professional fisherman. They are aware that when they put themselves in the spotlight, people are going to look at them differently. And in their line of work perception is everything, real or imagined. My comments here were intended to make the professionals connected with this site aware that an unappealing view of their actions is present.
My comments are not intended to Destroy, Stop or Discourage the use of this site. I visit this site frequently. And coupled with my knowledge of Pool 4, i am able to get some very useful information here. Honestly, it’s much easier than asking Willard how they’re biting.
As far as the photos go, i have stringer photos. Most of the guys i hang out with do too. But when Pros connect photos like that to themselves in a public forum. A lot of naysayers start with the old “Game Hog” comments. Again perception is everything in the promotion business. And unfortunately those rumblings have begun.
And lastly, my comments are not directed at most of the guys that have replied. They’re not aimed at the condition of the resource. Catch fish, have fun, be smart and safe.
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I’m really surpised this post or thread has not got deleted. This is a fishing report forum. There is a General Discussion forum for this bull. Please take this off line
Jeff, I value and enjoy your posts 
, but i have to disagree on that statement…This forum is more than just a fishing report forum. I’d like to think that it is open to every aspect of fishing 
, including the possible effects of a picture(s) to the general public. There actually is a similar thread in the general discussion forum, and this might be better “categorized” there, but it’s here, so we’ll go with it.
I also don’t think this thread should be deleted because it contains valid points, and i consider it a good discussion..especially since it has received this many responses….and w/ice forming on most waters, other than walleye, there aren’t that many fishing reports to be had.
Keep this posting!!
I’m not sure I see your point of view on remaining anonymous, MaH. I’ve always went by “if you can’t write it down and sign your name to it…don’t say it”. But I ‘spouse that’s another “values” thing.
Can I ask you a personal question? Were you raised in a rural area or in a city? No…it’s not 20 questions..just wondering.
Re: Stringers. Although I see your point of view, I don’t agree.
You mentioned the other leaders in the industry stay away from posting stringers of fish, you felt that the leaders of this board should do the same….
You are so right on perception! My perception is that all guides take stringers (for their customers…and I ‘spose for themselves). I would think they would be happy to show the pictures. Show it the way it is….(personally, I’m really tired of the PC age, where you have to put a spin on many things so it’s “preceived” correctly).
I echo the above comments about “selling” on this site…If you can’t make money from something (that takes this much effort) why do it?
(James…don’t get any ideas 
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I still have a hard time believing that this is a free site! (James, don’t get any ideas )
If you enjoy this site, post your thoughts, views and opinions. But more importantly…check out and buy from the sponsors…
HappyasHell…BB
I should probably just let this go, but I have to say it………….Don’t take this as an attack, because it isn’t…….
MadasHell:
I’ve had exposure to some of those so called “pros”. I have found that “some” are rude, selfish, will push you out of their way on the water, and not very pleasant people to be around. I have also found the opposite with “some” of these “pros”. Some are really good guys and are fun to BS with. The point is, that if your going to be a public fishing person, then you are subject to the people. Why, because you have placed yourself in a public postition.
Call me vengefull, but I really enjoyed LOTW 3 years ago, when I wanted to BS with a couple of PWT pros who were fishing up there and got very rude with me and my partner on the water and on shore. We weren’t imposing, just tried some small talk on the dock.
Well, when the sun set, we had a very successful day, to their lack of. I did rub it in, and it was probably wrong. However, when “YOUR” heros, that are public figures in the fishing world acted the way they did (no need to get into details or names), I felt it was needed to put someone in their place and show them they weren’t the “greek fishing gods”, that they thought they were. I also really enjoyed at how they passed around a rather large walleye to each other, all taking individual pictures with the same fish. The fish probably died, considering it was out of the water for about 10 minutes. It was even passed to the other boat for more “individual” pictures………..So sad.
What makes this place a great success, is the passing on and sharing of straight up fishing info, reports, techniques. Something that “pros” or “heros” won’t do….
These guys on this site are sharing their hard earned knowledge, for free. Don’t knock it, because you won’t find this same type of info anywhere else, with the same good quality of people.
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… The point is, that if your going to be a public fishing person, then you are subject to the people. Why, because you have placed yourself in a public postition.
Exactly!!!
One more point I would like to make is that deleting opposing points of veiw is not a healthy way of promoting your veiw. There are a lot of people that believe this site is solely intended to to the folks in charge.
I am NOT one of those folks. But I as well as a few of my pals are surprised that this topic has gotten this far.
Good healthy clean debate on opposing veiws is the American Way. It would in my opinion enhance the credibilty of this site. Again my point of view.
I for one would enjoy the views of you and your pals. I am assuming you are talking about your Pro friends? It would even be better if we knew who you were.
MadAsHell, alot of your arguments sound like the old book burning arguments, very rightious but also your right, just dont shove it down my throat. Give people a little more credit to be able to look at those pictures and make a reasonable assumption and not go out and start a mass slaughter of walleye’s, I am sure we are all as smart as you.
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… The point is, that if your going to be a public fishing person, then you are subject to the people. Why, because you have placed yourself in a public postition.
Exactly!!!
One more point I would like to make is that deleting opposing points of veiw is not a healthy way of promoting your veiw. There are a lot of people that believe this site is solely intended to
I am NOT one of those folks. But I as well as a few of my pals are surprised that this topic has gotten this far.
Good healthy clean debate on opposing veiws is the American Way. It would in my opinion enhance the credibilty of this site. Again my point of view.
Am I to perceive this correctly by stating that those “others” believe this site is here to stroke the admin’s ego(s)? Good Lord, I hope not! These “others” have a deficiency in people skill knowledge if this is true. Egotists can’t play the game cool enough, long enough…………..this site is full of the real deal.
They may strive for excellence and still succomb to human error, but in my days of bouncing around these forums, I’ve seen all I need to see to know this isn’t for ing to anyone. What ing you see from me is genuine gratitude for things done that I know the average person or “business owner” wouldn’t do. Respect has never been required, but has truly been earned.
“They” don’t have to believe it………..say as “they” will. No one forces them to come here for anything. Success does attract criticism and typically from those that feel threatened by it. If a better way for a better world exists, I say “they” should drop the “perception” of what’s going on here and encourage “them” to do it on their own, “their way”, and feel free to compare results and furthermore, the general consensus opinion of those that are truly involved. Nothing “positive” that I’ve had to say in defense of this site and it’s staff has been coerced. Nothing is required of anyone. I don’t see how that works for an ego trip.
We can’t please everyone……………but these guys do, in many, many cases, go the extra mile to try do just that. My is voluntary, and well earned.
Back to the subject of PC on the stringer photos. Is a dead fish a dead fish? Does it send the same message? I want to propose a new question…………..
If it’s unprofessional to show fish that aren’t being released, why did the NAFC include 2 photos in their 2004 calendar, showing both stringer and “thrown on the ice” fish? A 3rd pic is captioned with the only purpose of catching that fish is to have dinner? Is the NAFC no longer a professional organization because of these pictures?
I maintain there is no right or wrong in the photos, there is only opinion and preference.
I promise this is my last rant……
I find it hard to believe you or your “pro” friends were/are true professionals. A true “pro” would NOT have started this topic in a public forum. You would have called each of these guides individually and discussed your/their point of views.
I think the “pros” in this industry are as cut-throat as they come. Sponorship is hard to come by now days. Any leg up you can get on the competition is an advantage. I don’t think your intent was to educate or understand why the pictures are posted, just to dirty the water. Grow some hair on that chest your beating and act like a “PRO” if you are at all truely concerned. If not, I can send you links to sites that love guys that dirty the water intentionally. Don’t get me wrong, your opinion doesn’t have to be the same as anyone’s here, but don’t spout off all these “facts” that we can’t substantiate because you are afraid one of your sponsors may see this. Maybe your sponsor is in direct competition with this site and it’s advertisers??
It’s just a flippin’ picture. 
BTW, I love all the photos posted by the In-Depth staff. Keeps my jiggin’ hand from twitching all day long at work.
Excellent question and one that is and has been a topic of conversation amongst Dustin, Steve Vick and I recently. I welcome the opportunity to participate in the discussion although I’m not sure I’ll have anything to offer that will be considered a concrete “for or against” vote in either direction as I have mixed feelings about this subject as well.
Personally I’m all for selective harvest. People should be able to keep, guilt-free, a limit of carefully chosen “eaters” appropriate for the body of water being fished, any time they can legally do so. In MN that means a max of 6 fish in possession. Not 6-fish limits per day fished with multiple limits in the freezer. Keeping, cleaning and enjoying fish as a meal is vital to the future of our sport and to deny people either the right or the ability to do so free from guilty stares and harrassment from other anglers is going down the short road to the destruction of our sport. More on “why” regarding this aspect some other time if people are interested in starting that thread.
On the “against” side of this it is possible that people will see those pictures and perceive a lack of stewardship of our resource, a “kill ’em all and hang ’em high” mentality being pushed by the people posting those pictures. I have had people approach me with that concern before. I openly talked with them about this subject as I do now here. I do not know of or have any evidence to show people are killing more fish, larger fish or keeping fish more often as a result of those pictures through contact with anglers or from what I see taking place around me. I have personally been concerned enough about this possibility that in my last two reports with a stringer shot I took the time to add a paragraph about the CPR ethics that ruled the day regarding all the females we could sort from the males as well as all the larger over 20″ fish we let go JUST IN CASE someone might misunderstand the photos. Just to refresh… those posts are quoted and linked below.
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Report – 11/22/03 This last photo is a pic of the group, Don Strom, Mike Flynn and Byron with a stringer shot of their fish for the day. The guys were great about weeding out the over 19 inch for as well as any females we could spot but we do have on 18.5 inch sauger in there we REALLY wish we could have released. Some of these fish were so agressive today that they would inhale the ringworms right into their gullets. All but this one were released carefully and quickly but sadly even those with the best intentions end up accidentally kill one they wish they hadn’t now and then.
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Report – 11/20/03 Dave and Ed are shown in this second photo with a 2-man limit of walleyes and saugers from 15.5 – 18 inches. About a half dozen fish over 20 inch were cheerfully released by these guys as well as a number of the super-fat 19 inchers they deemed much to nice for eats! Super job guys. We all appreciate the Selective Harvest and I personally look forward to fishing with you guys again soon as I had a great time myself.
The “for” side of things…
What in the heck does Selective Harvest mean? What does it mean on “my” body of water?
These are question that can be answered with a quick explaination but is best demonstrated for effect. When Dustin and I started running out of Everts Resort the mentality of the campers, all of them good folks and many of whom had been coming at the same time of year for many years, was a “kill all the biggest you can lay hands on and do it again tomorrow” deal. Steve Vick was added to the mix at this time as well as the resort manager and he has had a huge impact on ethics as well. Dustin and I were disguested with what we saw and began to TRY and influence as many people as we could with our words…. but what we found the most effective was allowing these people to see how we conducted ourselves on the water. To show them that our words matched our deeds. Release a couple 10 lbrs over a couple years in front of the same group of guys and you WILL see a change in how they conduct themselves. That fishing success was not defined by pounds… but by smiles and that fish could also be kept and consumed and that the enjoyment was actually heightened through a scense of stewardship of the resource. We let our big fish go… kept males and “under 20s” and soon others began to follow.
A couple years have passed and the mentality of a whole diverse group of people visiting the resort has largely changed, minus a few stinkers (there’s a always a few harder nuts to crack but we’ll keep leaning on them ) to the point where Steve Vick actually stated to me late last month he was having difficulty getting any large fish photos AT ALL for the baitshop board. In fact, Vick stated towards the end of November that the largest fish brought into the shop in November and KEPT was 24″. This is a HUGE change from season’s past when numbers of 6 – 8 lbers paraded through the resort during a typical “big fish” month like November.
Are “we” responsible for this change? Not sure. I do know we had a hand in it. We’ve been very aware of our ability to influence people through interactions both here in the forums as well as on the water. I am proud of the way the guys closely associated with the website have conducted themselves… they are the utmost in professionals in my opinion. The stringer photos you see here are first seen by real live individuals at the resort and we have NOT seen people turn into meat crazed predators, instead we’ve seen a move towards large-scale catch and release. Some of the worst offenders from several years back are now the most staunch supporters and preachers of selective harvest and stewardship of our river’s resources.
About those stringer photos and what I’ve heard on the “for” side regarding them; for every guy who’s had a negative comment to say about them, I’ve had more come to me and say something along this line… “I never used to throw the bigger fish back until I read you guys were doing it.” Or… “It’s easier to do when you know you’re not the only one doing it.” Or some similar variation.
Now about use of those stringer photos in reports…
I feel I can accomplish the same thing, educating people without the use of the “stringer shot,” even if the fish are carefully selected eaters unlikely to be confused with the hoarding of large females, without using that stringer shot. Certainly it has little benefit to me as a promotion for my guide business as most of my customers release MOST of their fish. I good percentage release ALL fish caught. I just don’t attract too many meat hunters. So what I’m saying is I’ll not use those shot any longer. The reason I had been is that it is, and will continue to be, reality. It’s what actually takes place and it is the appropriate way to utilize a very renewable resource. To treat this subject and to hide it like a “dirty little secret” also has potential for positive and negative effects on people.
About all those “old timers” who say the fishing used to be so much better than it is now…. 10 lber’s everywhere and 21″ – 23″ saugers as fast as you could catch them…. stories grow in the retelling. If they didn’t, what would be be the point in tell them….
Talk to the fisheries biologists and they’ll tell you that the size structure of the fish populations are very healthy and in keeping with historical averages and the walleye numbers are higher than they’ve ever been. That’s factual evidence gathered by professionals trained to monotor our fisheries and not 20 – 30 year old stories recalled by aging fishermen.
But don’t get me wrong, I love to listen to these stories too and I’m working on a batch of dooozies for my grandkids!
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Don’t you guys think that maybe the “stringer Photos” are sending the wrong message to other veiwers, including me? Whatever happened to your CPR ideas?
I have to admit I enjoy checking into this Site from time to time, and i am an avid fisherman. But there is no doubt this format has increased fishing pressure at Pool 4.
I do believe everyone has the right to catch and keep fish, but the motives here seem to be line up Guide dates, sell Twister Tails and Videos.
With the closing of areas on other Pools, the non-stop “Scour Hole” debate and honestly, the envy of anglers miles away that are unable to fish here, wouldn’t it be more responsible to actually practice “Catch & Release”?
A couple points I forgot to mention…
Dustin and I have NEVER sent our limits home with customers as is common with other guides. In fact, all members of the in-depthangling.com Field Staff / Pro-Staff have to sign off on a list of expectations and rules governing conduct. A large part of that “contract” governs game and fish violations. A guide caught giving a limit of fish to customers would be immediately expelled from IA. We take the conduct of our members very seriously.
We do NOT keep fish when we fish with customers and rarely if EVER keep any fish at all. IF memory serves me, I’m at 6 fish for the year kept for personal consumption.
I do not stock pile fish, EVER. I actually had to call the resort this week to see if Steve could beg a couple small walleye off someone coming off the water on a day when I was not fishing so I could make supper for a friend later that night. Yup, a walleye guide asking someone else to catch him fish! 
James,I have been waiting for you or Dustin to post on this subject.Thank you for letting it stay up on the board,it got several hundred people thinking about there ethics when it comes to what size to keep. I have been fishing pool 4 for 30+yrs and have only seen it get better,cleaner water,more&larger walleye and yes more fishermen.But that is a nation wide trend. You say you wont use (stringer pics)anymore please dont stop posting them next to the released pigs or I for one will start feeling very inadequate in my fishing prowess.lol Thank you for a great site where we can all post are views.
My pleasure… I thought everyone handled this discussion real well actually. Even Madashell. Maybe we can talk about changing his display name to “slightlypeeved” or something like that and have him stick around. I like his willingness to ask the tough questions.
All points of views and questions are welcome here… it’s all in the way they’re presented that decides if they stay around or not. This “hot” topic didn’t fall into cussing or name calling and was a great debate I thought.
Mr. Holst,
I want to thank you for your reply. Your response was very well thought out, to the point and highly professional. As the Spokesman for this site I commend you very much. And will continue to support your efforts by patronizing the Business’ and purchasing the products you endorse.
Now if you could just tell me why it is when I use K-Grubs the bites i get get pull off half way to the boat. My partner says its my hook size. (has he been talking to my girlfriend?) But i have used several types of jigs and sizes. Do you bite off some of the body? Reel down on them like Bass fishing. Until i get the problem resolved they will not be a go to bait.
Thanks Again
Hey waterfowler, you freakin R-O-C-K……….I’m at a loss for words 
Hmmm… that is a tough one…. I don’t have that happen very often. Most hits are very solid with the bait completely engulfed. Even the smaller fish. I will share some ideas and some situations when I’ve had more “short takes” than at other times.
As soon as the fish hits, I grease ’em! Nothing polite about it. I use the 6′ 8″ Medium – X Fast Avid from Croix and that bugger will move some line and cross some eyes when need be.
Any time I use a jig not intended for use with plastics. the stuff with tiny hooks. I like a 1/0 MINIMUM on the 1/16 – 3/16 stuff and a 2/0 when I get any larger. Panfish hooks need not apply… no matter what anyone will tell you. Without any hook gap to spare, you’re going to miss fish.
Any time I use a jig that might be a bit too heavy for the water depth being fished. I typically rig these large tails on 1/8 – 3/16 heads. Rarely heavier. When a fish tries to inhale the bait the bait moves easily into their mouths.
Anytime I use fireline and get hits with a tight line I miss fish. Last night on pool 2 was the PERFECT example of this. Dezurik and I were fishing a wingie that has a rock field out in front. We were within casting distance of the face of the dam and there was some pretty substantial rock right below the boat. This wingdam was a snag nightmare so we opted for the braids to allow us to save some jigs and fish the area. Every hit I had on the dam or at the face, there’s always some bow or slack in the line when fishing a light head at casting distance from the boat, I landed. Every hit I had right below the boat on a tight line, I missed. The fish inhaled – the baits could not move back to the fish…. lost fish. When the fish are agressive nothing will keep that fish from getting the bait in their mouths… last night was an example of inactive / non-aggressive fish were little details like this one made a difference. Once we put this pattern together we moved off the dam a bit further, out away from the rocks in front of the dam, and I never missed another fish.
Anytime I have the bait right and the color WRONG. I get hesitent or “tail stretcher” type hits. A couple color changes and I can usually get a favorable response and a solid hook up.
Just some thoughts… typically we use these baits during prime feeding periods. Early and late on clear days or any time we run into a hot bit we’ll sneak in a few casts with these big tails. Time after time we land our biggest fish, or multiple big fish, on these larger baits. On over cast days when the bite is steady through out the day, we’ll rotate them in and out of use. Mid-day on a clear day, these are not consistent producers for me until the water clarity starts to drop… around pre-spawn.
Thanks,
Nearly everything checks out. Except maybe the color thing. When i am getting bit I feel I am having a positive response. If the hits are short I have more of a tendency to lighten up or size down. I will give your angle a look.
I know we have beaten this horse(or cat) about to death but I would like to add one point that hasn’t been made. I am raising a boy who loves the outdoors and lives to hunt and fish. Thanks in large part to this site everything over 19 or 20 inches goes back into the water and most days all fish are released. We do like our fried walleye so every month or so a meal comes home with us and is greatly enjoyed and appreciated. As I started out explaining and teaching my son about selective harvest this site was invaluable as it re-enforced what silly old Dad was saying. My son doesn’t read every Report but he reads most on Pool 4 and looks at all the pictures as I call him over. As he developed his ideas about selective harvest in his mind the “stringer pictures” played a role. He is to the point that his idea of an eater is 15 to 18 inch male. He points out certain fish on some stringer pictures and says we might of let that one go. That opens up a discussion about why that person may have kept that fish. Go back and look at the reports from last Spring(if you can) and you will see that in a time when the females are all swollen with eggs all the stringer pictures show only males. To us old farts that may be common sense but to a young mind that sends a message. Last Spring we were out one day and the 17 to 18 inch sauger were just snapping but they were all full of eggs. We were after a few to eat that day and ended up with 2 or 3 to take home even though we caught 50 or more. The reason being they were the only males we caught. I remember a day or two later there was a stringer picture that had excellent examples of fish like the ones we kept. That was positive re-enforcement of what I had shown him in the boat. I know alot of people will say that this is a poor argument but I tell you our children pick up so much they see around them and I think this site re-enforces the values most of us are trying to teach. Thanks for reading and now I will get off my soap box.
Rich Simmons
I was e-mailed a question by a very nice person here asking me if my post was in response to his. He felt bad i think and was worried if his statement offended me. It was absolutly not in response to his statement or anyone elses thats voiced thier concern about these pictures and was directed at those who don’t like or question these photos of our kids or clients with fish they’ve caught. Steves Plantz is one heck of a nice guy just like most people here and my statement was only to question why someone wouldn’t want pictures of kids and thier catches of the day where people can see them showing people thier skills in feeding and taking care of themselves. Life or Boy scouts 101, Pictures are a clip in time to remind us of nice events we experience and want to capture and save to see and appreciate again. Its saving for themselves and showing others that they have succeded in basic things in life to take care of themselves and to show others that they are enjoying themselves. Its called careing about things they should, not things they shouldn’t. One things for shure and its pictures save valuable memories for later when we can’t make it to the boat.
I guess I am going to throw my 2 cents and see what it is worth. I have learned a lot from this website and it have helped me become a better fisherman. We have been coming to pool 4 for about 6-7 years now and in the beginning we used to almost keep everything that we caught. Because of this site and the people associated with it I have learned that catch & release is the way to go. We do keep some eaters, but anything big is released. These gentlemen have had a profound impact on the way I fish pool 4 and have helped me catch more fish. I don’t see a problem with what they are doing and I commend them on the job that they do. If it wasn’t for there reports and honesty I would have a lot tougher time catching & releasing fish from pool 4. If it wasn’t for Steve & Jame’s honest advice a couple of weeks back I don’t think we would have caught near the fish that we did. You don’t find too many people in this world that would give you free advice without asking anything in return.
Its time to get back to fishing, learn some stuff about fishing, continue all being friends, we all are fishing buddies on this site so ”GROUP HUG!!!” 
Thanks, Bill
Been a long discussion with a lot of points of view but I think the one thing everyone here agrees on is that selective harvest is an extremely important way to preserve our sport. Something I wanted to point out since this discussion was focused primarily on the river is that we need to make sure we practice selective harvest every time we are on the water or in the field no matter where we are or what we are fishing or hunting for.
I am not going to rehash anything else here…this topic has been beat to death.
MAH, thanks for sharing your point of view and good luck on the river.
James…great reply to a very touchy subject….you are a true professional.
See you all on the river.
John
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