Dean spooled up some of the Cortland 4# after I read Vandy’s post and all I can is wow! compared to the rods I had rigged with the Elite…hands down on the Cortland. Now I will say I didn’t spool it with a spooling machine and it’s been on there for about 4-6 months so I’m sure the no memory Cortland will have a bit more memory 4-6 months from now but either way, it was pretty impressive stuff.