Better to have a ticket than be dead!!
March 30, 2014 at 8:39 am
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Open Letter to Red Wing Water Patrol/DNR
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March 30, 2014 at 8:58 am #1400356
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March 30, 2014 at 9:10 am #1400365I am sure the sheriffs are out enforcing all the laws pertaining to navigation on open water, so to just sit on the mason dixon line and tell people do not cross, is most likely detrimental to enforcing other boating laws that the sheriff is there to enforce.
March 30, 2014 at 9:12 am #1400366Post deleted by hunter1723
March 30, 2014 at 9:44 am #1400376Quote:
I thought CO’s could give tickets for that as well? Maybe I was wrong on that, but what you fail to see is that what you are trying to say is that we should have cops by all speeding signs trying to say to all speeders, please slow down. If you don’t know that you should at least be 150 feet away from a dangerous potential threat like a dam discharge, then you deserve your ticket. I believe I also have read more posts in the past about increased enforcement on the river for various things like the scour hole. You people that want more enforcement can choose to live in another country because you are ruining mine.
Yes your Lordship, I’ll start packing immediately.
March 30, 2014 at 9:48 am #1400378Now I am all mixed up, is it 150 feet or is it 150 yards??? Even the people arguing the point can’t get it right and you expect a first timer fishing there to figure it out. I agree with bk, have them patrol the line, if somebody goes past them, then tickets for that boat.
March 30, 2014 at 10:09 am #1400380Quote:
I am sure the sheriffs are out enforcing all the laws pertaining to navigation on open water, so to just sit on the mason dixon line and tell people do not cross, is most likely detrimental to enforcing other boating laws that the sheriff is there to enforce.
Over many years I have seen the sheriff’s squad up there doing what they do and Jeff’s statement is the best description in this thread. I have never witnessed them laying in wait for some unsuspecting schmuck to venture into no-man’s-land. If somebody is seen there, they address the issue.
In addition to what the CO’s do the sheriff’s patrol does a valuable service up there when things get crowded. People don’t get to pick and choose who they want to visit their boats when they are in the wrong. Stay out of the restricted areas and you won’t have visits that result in tickets…unless you’re violating some other boating or fishing rule. Don’t dun the law enforcement for doing their jobs.
March 30, 2014 at 11:02 am #1400373should close fishing from redwing up
March 30, 2014 at 11:14 am #1400330Quote:
Now I am all mixed up, is it 150 feet or is it 150 yards??? Even the people arguing the point can’t get it right and you expect a first timer fishing there to figure it out. I agree with bk, have them patrol the line, if somebody goes past them, then tickets for that boat.
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No fishing allowed within 300 feet below Mississippi River Lock and Dam 3
(near Red Wing) and Lock and Dam 4 (Alma, WI) from March 1-April 30.
March 30, 2014 at 11:51 am #1400389Hunter1723…why did you delete your post?..I hope your feathers didn’t get ruffeld a bit..I’m sure that was not anyones intent..
Post like these make for great reading informative and full of differences of opinions.. one thing I learned is sometimes people simply wont agree with yours..our mine our vice a versa..(gotta have thick skin) so to speak..
I can agree and did agree and disaggree with some of the responses on this post as well but sometimes I need to hear there’s..maby my thinking is out of wack..lol more times than not.. like not wearing pfd..
People are human and we make mistakes and it takes instances as such to (LEARN)
I did agree with the sherrifs actions..but I didn’t agree with there tactics..saw it with my own eyes..but they have a job to do and its nice to see them out there
March 30, 2014 at 1:55 pm #1400400My assumption would be that the patrol goes back down stream assuming the people breaking the law are doing it intentionally. Otherwise if they patrol it, people will just wait for them to leave and then slip into the illegal area.
But you know what they say about assuming.
Either that or they are just being [censored].
March 30, 2014 at 3:25 pm #1400411I appreciate them doing there job. But they are really there for safety stuff not really fishing related. However if you can’t read the signs then stay home. Most who have been doing this are close to shore and the sign is right there.
March 30, 2014 at 4:34 pm #1400424didnt you guys hear ,they are writing tickets so they can purchase cameras.
March 30, 2014 at 4:49 pm #1400427I guess its not going to bother me one way or another but, maybe Bill Handal- – Handal on the law can help with the tickets some a getting.
Radio lawyer on Fox radio!!
March 30, 2014 at 8:53 pm #1400490These first timers shouldn’t be anywhere near that area to begin with. That area can become tricky for experienced river fisherman as flow picks up. Motor doesn’t start right away you could in some trouble. Glad they are doing there job.
March 30, 2014 at 10:15 pm #1400503So you guys cannot fish within 300 yards below the dam? And 150 yards of that is the safety zone?
March 31, 2014 at 12:59 am #1400511
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No fishing allowed within 300 feet below Mississippi River Lock and Dam 3
(near Red Wing) and Lock and Dam 4 (Alma, WI) from March 1-April 30.
March 31, 2014 at 6:53 am #1400539Why doesnt someone post a arial photo of the area below the dam that is of limits and hi lite the 300 yard line onto the photo
PleaseMarch 31, 2014 at 8:55 am #1400581Quote:
Why doesnt someone post a arial photo of the area below the dam that is of limits and hi lite the 300 yard line onto the photo
Please
There you go.
Brian, lets go fishing for walleye and sauger this weekend, I have a feeling it’s not going to be a zoo like it normally is.
March 31, 2014 at 9:01 am #1400589Ha Ha thats a good one
March 31, 2014 at 9:55 am #1400606Is it the edge of the sign on the downstream side or the upstream side of the sign edge? I mean the sign is like 5 feet wide, so which is it? The sign says Dept. of Natural Resources, so why is the Sheriff involved at all? The Sheriff should be giving DUI’s to all the donkeys out there boozing it up like f’ing idiots and endangering the rest of us. They got binocs, if they can see an imaginary line being crossed, they can see a blue bud light can! Why not ticket the people who are not only endangering themselves, but others as well? There’s more fine money in DUI’s anyway. DONKEY SHOW>
March 31, 2014 at 10:19 am #1400613Sorry Dean but if you want to pick nits about which side of the sign matters you should just stay out of the area.
And the boys with the star do get some boozers. Dopers too. saw it first hand a couple years ago. They followed the smell. lol
The guys are doing their job. Don’t like it, buy a magazine.
March 31, 2014 at 12:01 pm #1400644We were doing a little looking back and forth with the sheriff
They are out there – and they are watching….
March 31, 2014 at 12:08 pm #1400647Tom, pretty reasonable question as to where the line is…or is the line 5 feet wide? If ya don’t know the answer, no need to respond…just keep reading your magazine and resist the urge to play with the keyboard
March 31, 2014 at 1:37 pm #1400670I know where the line is and have never found the need to push limits. Refer to the previous post to your last one….that guy can tell you exactly where the line is.
March 31, 2014 at 1:58 pm #1400677Well this post was posted to draw attention to the No Fish Zone.
I think it did that.
Keeping in mind the first 150 FEET is a No Boat Zone and the second 150 FEET is a No Fishing Zone, I ask the question; is the main purpose of the LEO’s there to collect income or to keep folks from FISHING in the No Fish Zone?
If they’re priority is to collect money, dropping back into the crowd is perfectly fine.
If the main purpose is to protect the fish (which the no fish zone was made for) then hanging around the line would make sense.
Just my two cents and I’m sure I’ll be asking one of our men in uniform their thoughts on this in the near future as well.
March 31, 2014 at 2:14 pm #1400687And I still say that they are there to do a job. Part of it involves dealing with those that cross the infamous line. They make their rounds and when people are inside the no man’s land line they get called. Simple.
If people have any question of where the line starts or stops, they should ask the man with the star right there on the water. These guys don’t bite and are as much a source of information as they are a source of misery for the who make assumptions.
Its a great post Brian. For the most part I think that I see most people in favor of the officers doing their job. Then there are a few who will argue that things are obscure. I’m fine with them discussing it with the enforcement people. Personally I think having their presence is nice when the zoo atmosphere begins…helps to remind people that there is some around that will set things right if problems occur. Maybe SHERIFF in big letters on the side of a boat helps some people behave. Their having to write a few tickets suggests that there are still those who don’t want to follow the rules. That’s OK too, as it helps the county offset the cost of fuel in the boat they use.
March 31, 2014 at 2:24 pm #1400689Is it legal for me to get a Sheriff decal on the side of my boat?
March 31, 2014 at 3:40 pm #1400720
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If the main purpose is to protect the fish (which the no fish zone was made for) then hanging around the line would make sense.
Great point Brian. If the #1 purpose of this zone is truly to protect the fish than the water patrol should not even give people the opportunity to break the law.
March 31, 2014 at 3:52 pm #1400724Who got pinched?
I can only assume somebody oughta Everts.
Lock and Dam 1 “ford dam” has boating restrictions of 500 feet below the dam. I think the 500 foot is a Federal thing.
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