Pool 8 & 9 Bonanza

  • mountain man
    Coon Valley, WI.
    Posts: 1419
    #1329061

    I really, really don’t remember a July in recent memory where nearly everyone is catching nice keepers almost at will. The bite starts at daylight and doesn’t seem to quit till about 7:00 PM. If they stop one place you just move to another. 28″er caught at Desoto to day. After wife and I prefished bass this morning… a guide customer Tom and I went out this afternoon and evening from 3:00 to 7:30 PM. The three spots we fished gave up at least 35 keepers, to the two to three boats in the different areas. FUN is an understatement and all of ours went back to be caught another day.

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #312200

    Lawrence,

    The bite continues down south too. I took a limit of fish between 16 and 19 inches in 40 minutes yesterday. Purple ring worms.

    kornking
    Mount Vernon, Iowa
    Posts: 396
    #312235

    40 minutes? You’re killin’ me man! I hope to aspire to your level of proficiency.

    Regards,

    Joe Jiacinto

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #312275

    Joe,

    I am a catfisherman. I only fish walleyes a couple times a year. My secret is to buy beers for the guys that fish walleyes all the time. They then tell me where the bite is. Sometimes they even take me in their boats. You want an excercise in water reading take up fishing flatheads. I spend more time exploring than I do fishing. Walleye fishing is kind of like catching bait as they hardly even pull unless they are over 5 or 10 pounds then they just barely pull back. I have had cats pull me anchors and all upstream.

    amwatson
    Holmen,WI
    Posts: 5130
    #312307

    I also had a blast on 9 Sunday. Not nearly as hot as one right after another, but the quality was very good. We pretty much fished right around the Lansing area trolling and using live bait rigs. Firetiger outproduced all other patterns we used and trolling was the ticket for us to put some nice fish in the boat. Very little traffic except for bass boats and a few locals was very nice for a change. Pool 9 is a great area to fish.

    kornking
    Mount Vernon, Iowa
    Posts: 396
    #312341

    Kev:

    I hear ya brother. You’re not kidding about the ‘eyes, 1/2 the time when I hook one, I think I have hooked on a clump of weeds, only when I get that tell-tale twitch do I then entertain the possibility that something other than plant matter or detritus is attached to hook. Once they get near the boat, sometimes they get a little lively. This is my first year spent fishing for them, so I dunno much, but I’d rate them as pretty poor fighters. My buddy caught a big sheepshead yesterday and it was taking him for a ride. It fought and took drag like a brute. I don’t care what anyone says, trash fish or not, they fight like the dickens-better than any walleye I have ever caught.

    Challenging to figure out and wonderful tablefare, that the walleyes are.

    Regards,

    Joe Jiacinto

    ripper
    Posts: 56
    #312375

    You guys mention trolling and live bait rigs. Would trolling a spinner/crawler harness upstream behing a bottom bouncer work in the river? Or is there to much debris for this to happen?

    Thanks boyz. I will be up on 9 FOR SURE this weekend, and cabin work can wait if the fishing is even half as good as it sounds.

    bigjigger2002
    Pearlcity , Illinois
    Posts: 471
    #312501

    RIPPER>>> You bet it does! but I think most guys use a 3-way instead of a bottom bouncer, just because of less debris on your line and the cost difference of losing a bottom bouncer compared to just a sinker. Just my 2cents$$$$$

    john-tucker
    Northwest Illinois
    Posts: 1251
    #312808

    Also, bottom bouncers tend to want to roll in the stronger current areas, causing quite a mess!
    John

    mountain man
    Coon Valley, WI.
    Posts: 1419
    #312818

    Not to mention that many bottom bouncers remove your direct connection to your bait and tend to flop when brought out of the water and give the fish slack to pull off with. Some of the new ones ofcourse overcome that with an almost slipsinker set up so you do have a direct connection to your line. I prefer threeway or inline weighting systems.

    ripper
    Posts: 56
    #312834

    Thanks for the advice guys. How much weight, usually? I understand it will change with depth, but seems you guys troll an average of 10 feet or so. Bell sinker on the 3-way?

    Thanks all.

    ripper

    mountain man
    Coon Valley, WI.
    Posts: 1419
    #313191

    Hope this helps… it’s from my webpages…

    THREE WAY CRANKS

    THREE WAY CRANKS For those of you not familiar with this technique, I will try to explain it. First it is a very accurate form of trolling. By that I mean a person can very easily position their lure in the walleye-sauger strike zone, again and again. Heres how you do it. First the equipment I most often use with this technique: A bait casting or trolling rod and an Abu Garcia 6500 C3 reel, Trilene 10# XT, and 1-5 oz bell,or pencil sinker, Rapala Original floaters, or husky jerks. Attach one eye of the threeway swivel to the line coming from you rod. Then to one eye of the three way tie about a 24(about 18 inches after tieing and cutting) inch piece of line to a snap swivel and put the sinker on it. This seems to be the universal drop length. (18inches) I’ll explain why later. Then to the third and last eye of the threeway swivel attach about 45 inches of line(40 inches when tied and cut). then attach another snap swivel to this 40 inches of line and place your crank bait on it. Now drop your rig into the water with your boat going the speed you intend to be moving and in the depth you intend to use as your goal,(more about speed and depth latter). Let the line free spool backward until you see the line (sinker) hit bottom. NOW COMES THE SECRET TO BEING RIGHT WHERE YOU WANT TO BE!!!!!! AFTER THE SINKER touched the bottom it almost immediately is lifted off the bottom by hydraulics and forward momentum. You must continue letting more line out again and again until you can drop the tip of your pole backwards three times and see the sinker put slack in the line all three times.(consecutively..in a row-WITH THE BAIL CLOSED). Trust me two times is not enough. Now if you put your rod in the rod holder or hold it in your hand when you come over little bumps or over shallower depths you will see the sinker bumping the bottom. There are several reasons why I say that a 18″ drop and 40″ leader are the universal depth and lenghth. With thousands of hours using this technique I have found that the 18 inch drop and 40inch length puts the bait where the walleye will see it and it will still snag less often than a lesser drop does. My snag up over the same area on the same day seems to almost double when I drop to 12 inches or less(the distance from the threeway swivel to the sinker),even when I adjust the leader lenghth, and the 12 -16 inch lenghth seems to snag more also. Remember we have two things that can snag here. The crankbait and the sinker. Now I know somebody out there is saying why not use a bottom bouncer to avoid snags. I have found that the bulk of the bottom bouncer and it’s design snag almost as much and collect weeds,many times faster, on rivers.. One thing I should point out right now is that with a three way you actually have direct connection to the lure(bait). With a bottom bouncer you don’t. This becomes very evident when the rod is held in your hand while trolling or the second you lift the Bottom bouncer out of the water with a fish on. With regards to speed (slooooow), and depth 11-20 ft. I try to barely make any progress upstream. A football field on most days would take me 45 minutes. Although a lot of people speed up as the weather warms I don’t. Even on lakes and flowages with little current. The rare ocassion is when I’ve lost track of the herd for a while and speed up till I find the fish back. Even then I rarely move much faster than 3/4 miles per hour. When Tony and I won the Mississippi North Regional Championship on Pepin in JUNE we STILL MOVED SLOWLY. When we wanted to move faster we went to Leadcore or longlining cranks. Depth is a deep subject LOL. When I was a young squirt I remember being told that the first major drop from shore holds the most Eyes on the river. Darn it seems like it is almost always 12-18 feet. In our second place finish At the 1999 National Championship on the Rainey River,(Lake of the Woods), we rarely left the 16 -18 foot range. If we moved up off that break it was all No. Pike, and if we when out to the next drop it was all sturgeon. Sinkers are the last item I should cover here. Any day anything from 2-5 ounces will catch fish. In general the shallower you are the lighter you go. Also I usually rig the poles straight out the back of the boat one ounce lighter to get it back a little farther, from the motor. To start I would suggest you just buy 2 0z and 3 0z bell sinkers. They are my most often used weights and a bell sinker forces you to set the depth right. Until you get used to a pencil sinker you may be dragging it on its side rather that just bouncing it on it’s tip, like you need to. Yes that 3-4 inches makes a difference. Now here’s where a lot of people are gonna say WHAAAT??? Forget trying to achieve a 45 degree line angle from your rod tip to the water. It never seems to make a bit of difference with this technique or as far as I have ever been able to figure out with any technique. Still use it as a guide if you like, but don’t drive yourself buggy trying to maintain it.

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