Jigs for Super Do’s and Ringworms

New to FTR and to Pool 4. Lots of intrigue and info about ringworms & super dos, techniques, etc. First try was last weekend with limited success. Any advice (for a guy who finds it difficult to fish walleyes w/o dragging a minnow) preferences for “right” jigs (style, weight) for them?

Can someone tell me who manufactures ringworms and superdoos and does anyone carry them in the Clinton/Quad cities area. I would like to try these on the Illinois River.

Im not sure who makes ringworm or superdoos but i can order you as many as you want.

Rivertown Sports (651)388-7999

Red Wing MN

And the jig size varies, but there are plenty of ways to catch wallleye. When the water warmes up a little pool 4 is known for pulling lead core. Pulling plugs is a very common way to fish the river. And three way, you can pull live bait or plugs. Or you can hand line. Just a couple differnt ways for you to try

There are many ways to catch fish it just takes time and practice. (If it was easy it would be called catching not fishing..)

Good Luck

http://www.fishtheriver.com/bfishn/

Try this URL from this site, Dave has all the stuff you need. Check it out, there is a phone number you can call also.

Good Fishin’

TBO/MN

DUNKER,

If you want to try a few ringworms before ordering a large quantity, R&R sports in Clinton carries a few varieties. My favorite is the purple w/ chartruese tail. They are higher priced than what you can get for large quantities, but you can get an idea if they are for you. I fished them quite a lot last fall and some this spring on pool 14, 13, and had good successs fishing with a light jig, drifting them in the current on wing dams and current breaks. Check out Jim “Beaver” Slivinski’s article on ring worm fishing in the Articles archive. VERY well written and informative.

I don’t know of any place that carries Super Do’s. You might try K-n-K in Bettendorf, or Gander Mt. in Davenport. If you find some locally, let me know. I’d like to try a few and see how they work for me. I love to drift fish, they sound great!

Rooster

I’ve been checking this board out for about three weeks now and I can’t get over this Ringworm and Superdoo infatuation! Have you guys just fallen victim to a marketing scheme or are they the only things that work? Has anyone been giving Powerbaits equal time? It seems to me that a Power tube would take the place of a Superdoo and a Power grub with no tail would do the same thing as a Ringworm. Has anyone tested this theory? If not, I will be later this week.

yes, I have actually tested this thoery…….but berkley is not the local jig supplier, I have used exclusively power baites since I can remember them bieng around….. (that is all I still use) …I am pretty picky about my plastics, I just have used them for so long that it’s hard to change, but the difference is like ford or chevy?? They both get you places I just choose to drive chevy!! I hope that makes sense >>

Berkley also makes a power worm that works the same as a ringworm….. but you get back to the fact that they are not made and supplied by the local fella down the street….. The ringworms and superdoo’s do work, I have seen them and have cought fish with them…. I think the target market is jig/minnow fisherman that have not used a lot of plastics…. I think it’s great they are pushing them so hard and making money,,, I guess it’s iether them or Berkley,… and who the knows anyone at berkley….. but in the end is there a big difference between ringworms, superdoo’s, etc.. and berkley’s line…… I don’t think anyone can inmprove the action as that 3 inch power grub, some company’s sell twisters that just plain SUCK…. but as far as any other differences, price,and quantity is one difference scent is another…… I am sure there are others that will have an (unbias) opinion or comparison…….

For the original post question, I like 1/8 to 1/4 oz Gopher Tackle Mushroom head jigs when casting plastics/Powerbait.

For verticle jigging them, a round head with a long hook shank works for me. (Size depends on river depth and current)

Gatzeye:

I use Powerbait exclusively also. Berkley makes most of the shapes and colors mentioned here. I guess I like the odds of having a scent and flavor enhanced bait vs. a piece of plastic.

I think the “marketing scheme” (as you put it) is to give people another option other than a minnow on their jig. And sometimes plastic will outfish bait.

Give plastic/Powerbait a try and add it to your toolbox to help you catch more fish.

Good Luck,

Eric Naig

I’m not going to say that other plastics wouldn’t work or claim any inferiority but I can say that when you’re working “other plastics” and the guy next to you is kicking your can on a scentless piece of plastic called a ringworm or superdo, I’m going to be looking to switch soon……………..I mean, if I went to fish just to watch, I wouldn’t own any tackle and I’d be the designated photographer/filmer. What’s the difference? What’s the magic? I don’t know but I’m sure they’re not the perfect lure all the time, every time, such as it is with many other lures and presentations. I’m just not convinced by a marketing scheme as much as I am the guy next to me catching all the fish until I switch over! Live it once and the hype issue seems less prevalent………it turns to pure conviction of a new “confidence lure”.

just my 2 cents worth……your plastics are only as good as the person running them whether they are scented or not !

Jig Heads…

guess Im in transition here… I used to use larger diameter heavier lines…. and Ive caught plenty of fish doing so…. but with the low clear water of this spring Ive switched to 1# diameter 4# fireline… and lighter heads….

so with 8# diameter lines I used 1/2 oz heads mostly…. round work ok…….

with 1# diameter lines I use 1/4 and 3/8 oz…..

this is for vertical jiggin in 20′ plus water…. shallower I go lighter……

Ive been experimenting with a head this is not round.. its profile is more an oval and it seems to cut the current a bit better and give better bottom contact……

as for the SuperDoos and RingWorms vs others….

Im sure OTHER things will work… Im not sure scent/flavor is much of an issue on the river… presentation and color seem to be the biggest factors…. oh.. and size as well….. but like Eric said… scent is not likely to HURT…… as for SuperDoos VS Tubes…. Im no expert… just a beginner… when I asked about that I was told that the Doos have a smaller profile that also presents less resistance to the current and better bottom contact…. most of us can use all the help we can get with presentation… so Im using lighter line, streamlined heads.. AND SuperDoos…. and Ive done well so far….. I think its ironic they call them SuperDoos… cause I think they are more SuperDonts…. as in DONT move them!!!.. just find bottom, lift em up a couple of inches and hold them STILL!!….

for someone whos so twitchy he cant stand still if his life depends on it (me)….. its been a tough technique to accept…… but it sure does work!!!

as always there are other things that work…. but I have been fishing right beside jig and minnow guys who were good… and at times Ive beat them so soundly they switched…. so far Ive not had to switch to minnows…. but I sitll buy them every trip…!! just to make Steve at Everts happy!! afterall… I like to see a great guy succeed… so I dont mind !!

its best to keep an open mind about EVERYTHING….. and Im quick to adopt new techniques these days…. everything Ive learned on this board works…. no miracles…. but use it at the right time and place and you will do very well…… learn which tecnique to use when and you will do great!

As I have mentioned in the articles that I’ve written, I think river fish are reactive feeders, more agressive than their lake cousins. If a river fish, which I feel feeds like a trout by ambushing prey in current breaks and edges, took the time to smell something before he ate it, he’d be a skinny representative of his species. I don’t think river walleyes or sauger rely on their sense of smell to feed.

See it, react to it, eat it…..or go hungry.

Great points Beaver.., but I think that those walleye and sauger use there sense of smell more than you would think… I know that they are not as dependent as say a catfish, or carp but they still use there sense of smell…..

when they are in a area “feeding”, no it really doesn’t matter what you throw at them…. but when they have lock jaw…. like MOST everyone on the board has seen and they are not feeding as actively I think it really seems to help to have a positive scent… I know I will ad a half a crwler to a vertical presentation…. and bang I start catching fish in places I just went over…. (no matter what time of the year) was it the visual, introduction, or the introduction of the smell that triggered the fish to turn on……. I am convinced that it is the smell… there is so much forage for them in the sytem// there is No walleye that should go hungry/starve…. That makes the bite even harder and and fish more finicky….

I tried the 4″ Power Tubes on Saturday and caught some nice saugers vertical jigging. We caught all of our fish on tubes while the jig /minnow wasn’t producing. Other people I talked to had the opposite results.

I bought the Power Tubes instead of superdoos because I live in the metro area and I don’t know of any store selling superdoos around here.

Fished Tuesday afternoon and caught nothing on plastics and caught a few on the jig / minnow. The fish were hitting short and light yesterday afternoon for me.

Good points for you also Mavz. As usual, the only thing constant in fishing is that there is nothing constant.

If I were to rephrase….I’d have to add the term “actively feeding fish.” You make a strong point that sometimes they need a little prodding. Whether it’s smell or a piece of nightcrawler, sometimes they need a nudge to make the neutral fish bite. Why else would ‘fish attractants’ still fill the shelves in sporting goods stores. I know some guys that wont fish with anything unless they blast it with a little juice of some sort. Whatever works or whatever it takes, putting fish in the boat is what it is all about.

I must admit, I carry a tube of garlic flavored cooking oil in my boat, I use scented plastics and salted plastics. Does it make a difference? I’ll never know if it was what caused the trigger to be pulled.

Beav

dudes…never read the intire post but….I’m telling you ring worms work…I’ve been in many differet lakes this year and ringers are killer……so be it…..A marketing ploy?…..only if I’m fishing with yoiu and “you ” Don’t have any….

Hey I am always looking for something different to try! I have great luck (at times) fishing plastics mostly sassy shad and sometimes walleye assasins. I fish the often crowded illinois

river tournaments. Sometimes the key to gettin the fish in a crowd to bite is show um something a litle different than the other guys. Thats why im interested.