Pool 4 Walleye/Sauger Info

  • smalls
    Lake City, MN
    Posts: 25
    #1184052

    Spring of 2013 at the Rochester Walleye Searchers meeting.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #1184058

    People gotta understand 2 things…river fish have a very fast growing short life span. An they have a cycle similar to a grouse up and down every 10 years. The saugers do take a pounding year after year in the normal 4 spots in Lake City in the summer months and the dam in the fall/winter/spring. It is something they need to monitor to see what is going on but I would be willing to bet the next “perferct storm” of water in the sping we will see a huge boom of saugers back in the system.

    jimsiewert
    Posts: 274
    #1184069

    So should we wait and “hope” for a perfect storm? I have been fortunate to live and fish on Lake Pepin my whole life and have been fishing it religiously for over 30 years. Through all the “up and down” cycles within the DNR report -saugers caught by anglers are by far the worse they ever been. If someone disagree’s, then they have not fished here long enough to make that assessment. The last statistical trend downward occured between 91 & 95 (Statistically – a trend is 3 continuous points down or up). Dependent on 2013 DNR report, we could have our 2nd statistically proven decline in sauger population within their study timeframe. I just don’t want us to sit back and “hope for the best”

    Jimmy Siewert

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1184076

    Pretty interesting info in the PDF file that cover 1965 to 2011….

    jimsiewert
    Posts: 274
    #1184182

    Yup – read the full versions every year. I know what the info says……….and means.

    erick
    Grand Meadow, MN
    Posts: 3213
    #1184204

    I am far from arguing or not agreeing at all….I hope they monitor the situation right now and see what they/we can do as anglers and manage the population from there. Putting a 15″ size limit on them is not the fix either as many of those fish are the females in the system that keep it going. 2 things i see though is each year I can follow waypoints and fish old spots and note many changes in the lake. I personally have cut back on fishing the lake and feel this is where the issue is with the saugers. Silting in many areas that before they thrived in with deeper/colder water that are now 12-14 ft an soft silt. Maiden Rock and Hanson’s harbor are prime examples and the population shows. I believe a lot of fish are adjusting to it and the spots that gave up fish year after year are now a thing of the past. I am not saying the population is booming but find spots with cleaner bottom and deeper/cooler water with shallow ambush points near by and you will still find them. Like you noted though 9 legal saugers weighed in 3 tournaments is an alarming number and should make the DNR step up and say we need to make a move and figure out a situation before it is a major one.

    jimsiewert
    Posts: 274
    #1184216

    And I absolutely agree with you Erik. The last thing I am trying to do is stir the pot with anyone. Not in my nature. I just feel it is time to get that discussion out because there is a change. I have full faith in the Fishery professionals in the DNR, and looking forward to their input on this discussion. What we can do is to continue to voice concerns, and help out in anyway possible, whatever means possible.

    docfrigo
    Wisconsin
    Posts: 1564
    #1184360

    Too many factors, think I’ll leave this one up to the fishery guys…it’s their job. One thing for certain, this watershed is changing, and quite maybe the sauger is feeling the brunt of that, or possibly it’s a combination of low numbers due to a cycle and mega amounts of food in the system-thus, making fishing difficult. Since everyone else is throwing in their two cents, I’ll throw in mine….. close the F#&KING scourwhore down all winter long!!!!!! Pulling fish, after fish, after fish needlessly out of 40 feet of water is nothing but DEATH!!!!!!

    drewsdad
    Crosby, MN
    Posts: 3138
    #1184415

    Totally agree with the scour hole suggestion and I don’t think I have seen this mentioned, why not a slot limit say 14″-16″ with one over 20″. People would get their eaters and the big spawners would be more protected.

    dd

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1184484

    Quote:


    close the F#&KING scourwhore down all winter long


    Do you want the eagles to starve??

    ozzyky
    On water
    Posts: 817
    #1184600

    Quote:


    close the F#&KING scourwhore down all winter long


    Most of the clowns probably don’t realize the damage they are causing. Or just don’t give a F

    bob_scow
    Alma Wi
    Posts: 12
    #1184601

    not only pool 4, 5 has been going downhill the last two years not only sauger but also walleye…gill fishing has been fantastic, 10 fish limit on the pool for a few years now… hmmmm…. lots of good walleye and sauger guys here also …general feeling is the fish are not there…Code:


     

    bob_scow
    Alma Wi
    Posts: 12
    #1184602

    not only pool 4, 5 has been going downhill the last two years not only sauger but also walleye…gill fishing has been fantastic, 10 fish limit on the pool for a few years now… hmmmm…. lots of good walleye and sauger guys here also …general feeling is the fish are not there…[code] [/code]

    lenny_jamison
    Bay City , WI
    Posts: 4001
    #1184638

    Quote:


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    close the F#&KING scourwhore down all winter long


    Most of the clowns probably don’t realize the damage they are causing. Or just don’t give a F


    They should shut down everything upstream of Red Wing for the winter. Plenty of saugers killed at Hay Creek too.

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