No more

Due to the high volume of hate mail I will no longer be posting fish pictures, I will defer to those who are offended and instead of attacking back I choose to take the high road

Dan,

That is TOO BAD it has to be this way! I respect your right to fish daily with or without clients in your boat and keep your legal amount of fish for the given day. It’s too bad some holes have to try to impose their way of thinking on us.

As I said in an earlier post where CrappyKiller was attacked for keeping fish. If this continues you won’t see many more fishing reports here. I can guarantee you will never see another one from me.

BTW, If you have a problem with the limits set on P4 or any other body of water for that matter, CONTACT YOUR DNR and explain to them that you think they are wrong and the limit should be lowered.

Dan,

Thanks for sharing what you did when you did

Always love it when the self righteous decide on what everybody else should do, and who to do it to, I don’t see any of the other guides getting ripped here, just you??

Maybe jealously?

As long as your legal, have fun..imho

Want something to batch about?
Maybe try the millions of tons of fish that hauled out of the oceans, rivers and lakes to feed an over populated world..maybe try that?

Al

I am very sorry it came to this Dan. But salute you for taking the high road. While I am also a God fearing Christian I feel compelled to offer this to the people who have insulted and offended you.

Funny how that works isn’t it…. no pics you’re a liar. Post pics and you’re a poacher or game hog. Some folks need to get a life and keep their fingers off the keyboard!

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Due to the high volume of hate mail I will no longer be posting fish pictures, I will defer to those who are offended and instead of attacking back I choose to take the high road

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Exactly why I stoped posting any reports! Its to bad it comes to this because we have lost alot of great reporters due to haters

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Maybe jealously?

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I agree Al. That and laziness to back their arse away from the computer. Or maybe they just plain and simple fail to put fish in the boat when they do go?

I’m just impressed that you are able to catch all these healthy walleyes from a body of water that receives no stocking.

I always assumed that more money spent on stocking = better fish population

The people who don’t like seeing pictures of legally caught fish and who send private e-mails invading in someones privacy to harrass them, kinda reminds me of the anti fishing people who don’t want to see them eigther or question them and how they were caught and how many. Can’t please stupid, thier legal folks, thier legal and I know RiverDan knows what his limits are. I hope you reconsider and its too bad Dan because I liked seeing the pictures of your catches, from one who puts fish on his stringer to another.

That is too bad dan. Funny, we have threads complaining about people killing and keeping fish and even e-mailing posters. Yet we have another thread joyous that we can now kill people with no threat of legal retaliation. Something is wrong here. Flame away.

That’s to bad Dan, looked forward to those pics.
Jealousy from people that couldn’t catch fish in a bathtub?

Riverdan- I dont know what started all of this, but I would say that you dont have to stop doing what youre doing to appease some [censored]. I enjoy reports with pics, as do most of us. Im sure it boils down to jealousy, no doubt.

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That’s to bad Dan, looked forward to those pics.
Jealousy from people that couldn’t catch fish in a bathtub?

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I couldn’t agree more Wild,,,

I too am sorry about your decision as I have really enjoyed your posts and like seeing the pics. Your posts have inspired me to get out to the river and fish and to try some new ways for me at least to try that you have described. Please keep the posts coming.

Message to the board moderators,

We need a rule on IDO about attacking those who post!! We have rules around decency, we have rules about no politics, now we need to protect those who are providing the information and pictures we all came here for in the first place.

Riverdan, I wish I could change your mind. Love seeing your pics and reports each and every time.

ET

You hit the nail on the head!!!

Dan i ask that you take the high road and keep posting photos and delete and ignore the few!!! Thanks Dan

I agree. My vote for the rule is no pictures with more than 2 fish in it. Still lets us show what we are catching but also promotes selective harvest and not over harvesting fish even if it is legal.

Dan I personally would rather see no pictures from you than day after day of limits of dead fish. There are other photos that can be taken to show off your catch.

Sorry to hear this RD.It is to bad that you had a good night and wanted to share it with the members of IDO.Who cares if you kept your limit or if 3 guys with 18 fish.It is not us(or IDO staff) to decide what is right.That might be the first limit you have kept all year or what ever.Maybe the 3 guys with 18 fish were on a guided trip,it doesn’t matter.We know that some people may take more while others take less,been this way since the beginning of time and I don’t think it’s going to stop.RD please don’t stop posting your pictures .

If your getting pm’s that were attacking you I would go to site administration to see what can be done.(first attack on org thread was PHIGS and no email for him..hmmmm)

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I agree. My vote for the rule is no pictures with more than 2 fish in it. Still lets us show what we are catching but also promotes selective harvest and not over harvesting fish even if it is legal.

Dan I personally would rather see no pictures from you than day after day of limits of dead fish. There are other photos that can be taken to show off your catch.

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Im speechless over this statement, especially coming from IDO staff. Very disheartening.

I gave up posting also. Fishing seems to have become secondary on this site. If you don’t belong to the clique that has taken over this site politically and religiously then you are subject to ridicule or ostracized. The poor guy who had .02 cents in posts and engine trouble the other day probably won’t be back either.

My time to chime in… I disagree. Dan was NOT doing the right thing. As a guide myself there was a time when I was doing the same as Dan. I was showing limits of “fish on a stick” and it was pointed out that this was not the right message to be putting out day after day. My guess is if one did some digging you could find that thread here on IDO and review for some perspective.

In my case, the people were right. They weren’t being self-righteous. They weren’t jealous. They were trying to point out that as a guide and a person that reached thousands here how I conducted myself mattered. And the message I was conveying was “hang ’em high” as long as it is legal and keep reaching for the stringer with each fish over the gunnel until the law makes me stop. Then do it again tomorrow. And the next day.

After a thread or two here on IDO and some consideration I came to understand that these guys were right. I never again posted a photo of limits of fish as a guide. I severely curtailed what I would allow my guide customers to take home with them… and my business exploded. At the end of my time guiding I would estimate that under 50% of my clients kept ANY fish on a trip.

Shortly thereafter I convinced the rest of the guys I guided with to do the same. I believe it safe to say that the Stewarts, DeZuriks and Tuckners of the world all came to the same conclusion. Image and message matters and as a guide working these waters we have a responsibility to walk the walk AND portray outwardly an image of stewardship of the resource.

And you can’t do that with limits of fish on a stringer every day.

While there’s no doubt you can legally do what you’re doing it is also a horrible strategy for a guide and a miserable outreach plan to the public when you’re clearly trying to build a business. The public is trying to tell you something. Are you strong enough to listen, take some advice and change? I know from experience it isn’t an easy thing to do.

River Dan, this is an opportunity for you to evolve. When large numbers of people are telling you “something ain’t right,” many of them long time visitors here and anglers that fish the same body of water you fish… you might want to take what is being shared with you under serious consideration.

Take it for what its worth from a guy that has walked in your shoes. Focus on sharing fishing info, techniques and patterns and stop telling the world that to you the success of the day is based on the weight of the stringer.

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I agree. My vote for the rule is no pictures with more than 2 fish in it. Still lets us show what we are catching but also promotes selective harvest and not over harvesting fish even if it is legal.

Dan I personally would rather see no pictures from you than day after day of limits of dead fish. There are other photos that can be taken to show off your catch.

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Im speechless over this statement, especially coming from IDO staff. Very disheartening.

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Unbelievable,coming from an IDO repoter, but also a fishing guide.
When is this going to stop?

Completely disagree Mike, pictures should be of what you catch and no one should be ashamed of that (long as it is legal).

It’s very easy for you to judge fishing a C&R P2. There should be no criticisms of pictures on here period. Violating posts should be removed the first time, subsequent posts should require a break from IDO.

ET

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I gave up posting also. Fishing seems to have become secondary on this site.

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Why come back now? Just to read and take what info you can glean without sharing yourself? That to me is a far bigger issue than the very occasional dust-up we have here between members.

IDO and life is like a penny jar. If you expect something to be there when you need it you best be leaving something behind from time to time.

I look forward to your reports. It doesn’t really bother me that you won’t be posting pics of your limits. i would really like to see the pics of your releases though. And I think it would help business and reputation (whether you give a or not).
I have backed Dan in the past and I back him in his right to be treated with dignity. BUt I would also say that rubbing limits and pics of limits every day in people’s faces is a little sophamoric. (it seems its becoming more of a jab at “haters” than a fishing report.) Just giving an observation – thats all.

I am jealous by the way. Not of Dan’s skills, which are great, but of the time on the water.

I likes Mike’s idea. Maybe some pictures of fish he is releasing.

Colder temps, snow forecasted, late february, fishing season ending soon…I love cabin fever.

Please someone post the post that started this or pm me. I too enjoy members like Dan. The posts are educational and encouraging for me to be a better at my fishing. Hey Mike how about exerting some of your power and severally curtail this most destructive activity. I hate to see this bickering. It sounds like some one yelling FIRE in a theater.

Im with Holst on this one. This site was built (in the last 5 years or so) on the Catch Photo Release philosophy. While I could care less if RD takes his limit everyday, showing it on the internet can really change how people think. If everyone fishing the river takes their limit, now you have a problem.

My other issue is that someone is claiming that he is the “Scour hole king”? If this is true I think we have a bigger problem here.