Early morning visit

  • riverdan
    Posts: 295
    #1333368

    Well I was woke up someone knocking on my door this morning, got dressed to find the DNR, yes it was the DNR! they talked with me and searched my home for fish and found that I was well within my LEGEAL POSSESSION, they did however take 40lb of ground vension I had in two freezers because of no possession tag which got donated to me but after a couple phone calls that will work out! I just think all the years I’ve been around this and other fishing web sites, sharing info and meeting all sort of people from different walks of life, that I could get alittle grace from the masses! Don’t be a hater, can’t we all just get along!

    bigefish
    Rock Falls, WI.
    Posts: 242
    #1032912

    WOW!
    Sorry to hear that. Law abiding citizens are to be praised not harrased. BIG GOV. GO FIGURE!
    Thanks for sharing your experience.
    WI or MN DNR?

    kruger
    Metro,mn
    Posts: 593
    #1032915

    WOW, somebody really must have it out for you

    summersoff
    Posts: 2
    #1032916

    Sounds like someone is jealous. Hope you get your venison back.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #1032919

    I’m glad you got checked. And I’m glad you were within your legal rights. I really don’t care for the fact that you keep as many fish as you can every time you hit the water — I think it’s gluttonous. Limits aren’t written for people that fish as much as you do. It’s my opinion that at some point in a lifetime of fishing you should hold yourself to a higher standard. I’m really glad you release the bigger fish and with this post at least I know you’re not breaking the legal limits. Thanks for posting about the DNR visit.

    85lund
    Menomonie, WI
    Posts: 2317
    #1032923

    Wow, I sure hope that didn’t happen due to the ignorance of the people that made comments on your post earlier this week. Wouldn’t. Make much sense to have to tell your clients they can’t keep the fish the caught while you were guiding them. Some folks just like to hear themselves talk, even when they’re typing looks like some tool that had no clue what he was talking about called the warden and told him he did know what he was talking about

    Thanks for sharing the info you do Dan to bad some tool had to put you through this.

    To the idiot that called without knowing the truth,

    washburn
    Aitkin Mn
    Posts: 185
    #1032927

    Funny thing is, whoever turned you in now has no credibility and made you look like the better person. Keep up the good posts and pics

    kruger
    Metro,mn
    Posts: 593
    #1032932

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    Funny thing is, whoever turned you in now has no credibility and made you look like the better person. Keep up the good posts and pics



    DrewH
    s/w WI.
    Posts: 1404
    #1032933

    I agree with what is already written. I like the no hate and your. Respect for the law which allows the search. Good luck the next time out.

    loshinit420
    Posts: 95
    #1032937

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    I’m glad you got checked. And I’m glad you were within your legal rights. I really don’t care for the fact that you keep as many fish as you can every time you hit the water — I think it’s gluttonous. Limits aren’t written for people that fish as much as you do. It’s my opinion that at some point in a lifetime of fishing you should hold yourself to a higher standard. I’m really glad you release the bigger fish and with this post at least I know you’re not breaking the legal limits. Thanks for posting about the DNR visit.



    I say catch em when u can cause theres plenty of times out the fish don’t cooperate, if ya release the big ones keep what ya want. Good Fishin!!

    drew-evans
    rochester MN
    Posts: 1099
    #1032943

    im going to say this, i think for the most part we all new and now know for sure that dan follows the rules, he is a avid fisherman and guide…… but no matter who you are what you do if you are putting that many pictures of dead fish on the internet even as a guide having different clients with him on a daily basis is going to attract attention from either somebody that is jelouse, truely beleives he is over limit or perhaps a DNR officer that is watching the interenet forums watching for things like that. Dan does keep his limit more than most but he also says he eats fish allot, he has mentioned this several times.

    Dan we love the reports! but realize that catching that many fish is going to draw attention to yourself. you being checked was probably the best thing that could happen too you. Your name has been brought up in several conversations lately in the fishing community about the amount of fish you were keeping, you had people wondering. well now they do not have to wonder anymore you are legal and probably one of the most sought after pool 4 guides right now! congrats and good luck out there.

    see you on the water,

    Drew

    Mike W
    MN/Anoka/Ham lake
    Posts: 13294
    #1032947

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    im going to say this, i think for the most part we all new and now know for sure that dan follows the rules, he is a avid fisherman and guide…… but no matter who you are what you do if you are putting that many pictures of dead fish on the internet even as a guide having different clients with him on a daily basis is going to attract attention from either somebody that is jelouse, truely beleives he is over limit or perhaps a DNR officer that is watching the interenet forums watching for things like that. Dan does keep his limit more than most but he also says he eats fish allot, he has mentioned this several times.

    Dan we love the reports! but realize that catching that many fish is going to draw attention to yourself. you being checked was probably the best thing that could happen too you. Your name has been brought up in several conversations lately in the fishing community about the amount of fish you were keeping, you had people wondering. well now they do not have to wonder anymore you are legal and probably one of the most sought after pool 4 guides right now! congrats and good luck out there.

    see you on the water,

    Drew


    Yep. Who would you expect the DNR to check. Think I would look no farther than yourself for having them stop by this morning. How does posting the amount of fish photos you did day after day not draw attention to yourself.

    Glad to hear the visit went as well as it did.

    millerman
    Red Wing, MN
    Posts: 627
    #1032953

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    I’m glad you got checked. And I’m glad you were within your legal rights. I really don’t care for the fact that you keep as many fish as you can every time you hit the water — I think it’s gluttonous. Limits aren’t written for people that fish as much as you do. It’s my opinion that at some point in a lifetime of fishing you should hold yourself to a higher standard. I’m really glad you release the bigger fish and with this post at least I know you’re not breaking the legal limits. Thanks for posting about the DNR visit.


    I guess you now know who turned you in or brought it to their attention! I like your post personally and like to know what you are catching! I totally understand your clients wanting to keep a limit of fish. They paid for your service and a fishing license!

    manselmo07
    Hudson WI
    Posts: 42
    #1032955

    Wow. Unreal. Wow.

    Dan – Keep it up. Keep catching those fish. It’s hard earned money in your pocket and great food for the dinner table.

    DeanoB
    Historic Mantorville
    Posts: 119
    #1032958

    God Bless the Internet! I think it’s great the DNR checked you, because it’s nice to know they are doing their job.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #1032961

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    I’m glad you got checked. And I’m glad you were within your legal rights. I really don’t care for the fact that you keep as many fish as you can every time you hit the water — I think it’s gluttonous. Limits aren’t written for people that fish as much as you do. It’s my opinion that at some point in a lifetime of fishing you should hold yourself to a higher standard. I’m really glad you release the bigger fish and with this post at least I know you’re not breaking the legal limits. Thanks for posting about the DNR visit.


    I guess you now know who turned you in or brought it to their attention! I like your post personally and like to know what you are catching! I totally understand your clients wanting to keep a limit of fish. They paid for your service and a fishing license!


    Ha! I don’t like what Dan is doing and I wish he’d stop setting a bad example for other fishermen with his meat hog reports. But I didn’t contact the DNR over it. I’d bet they found the evidence on this forum themselves.

    ozzyky
    On water
    Posts: 817
    #1032964

    That sucks, but they are only doing there job. I’ve been stopped on the lake a few times this year. Twice by the same guy. Frustrating to take the time to go through the B.S. but glad they are out doing what they are suppose too. Good to hear you were within your limits. Keep the reports coming.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #1032967

    Unless Dan was told there was a complaint called in, it’s not right to assume…either way.

    Our friends at the DNR (MN/WI/NE for sure) all check in here. As any CO will tell you most tickets come from a violator that’s bragging about what ever they did.

    From past (many) experiences, it’s been found that attacking a person drives the person away from our site. They don’t stop what they are doing (whether legal or not) they just won’t visit Ido. When a person stops visiting fisherman’s watering holes like Ido, there is no chance of your or my ethics rubbing off on them.

    And that’s really what we are talking about here, forcing your ethics on another person. It’s never worked in the past and it won’t work in the future.

    Kudos to River Dan for having a tough skin and hanging in here.

    As someone said, there hasn’t been too many reports coming from P-4 this year and he’s been a reliable source of the bite.

    There’s always going to be some that fish more, catch more and take home more than others. Until our DNR’s see a trend in their gill netting, nothing will change.

    Personally speaking, happy customers holding fish bring more clients than 18 fish on the floor of a boat. Since I’m not Dan’s Director of Operations or Marketing, it’s really up to him as to how he wants to portray his success.

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1032976

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    Funny thing is, whoever turned you in now has no credibility and made you look like the better person. Keep up the good posts and pics


    I doubt anyone turned him in. You dont think the DNR reads these websites? He posts a report from every day with pictures of limits taken, yeah that is going to raise suspicion. Glad the DNR is doing their job, and glad you were within the legal limits.

    But I dont think you will get your deer back, by law it has to be marked and dated and signed over by the hunter who took it. If you do, you found some nice wardens!

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1032977

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    Personally speaking, happy customers holding fish bring more clients than 18 fish on the floor of a boat. Since I’m not Dan’s Director of Operations or Marketing, it’s really up to him as to how he wants to portray his success.


    That is exactly right! When I look for a guide or a place to go (resort) I always look for the pictures section to see whats being caught. If I saw piles of fish on the ground or in the bottom of a boat I wouldnt even think about using that service. I’d be wondering why the guide doesnt show his face or his clients, might be something shady going on. I bet if dan was posting pictures of clients holding fish instead of piles, he would never have gotten checked. But to each his own.. do what ever you want, that is what America is all about.

    bill mitchell
    Posts: 165
    #1032992

    if youve got nothing to worry about then i dont think you can complain about a visit from the dnr with all the posting of dead fish a person has done..rules keep the honest people honest and the rule breakers looking for ways to keep breaking them..with the visit being a non citation you shouldnt have a problem in the future..just my two cents

    redrnger
    Posts: 216
    #1033004

    A person who hires a guide is usually someone who does not have a boat or the know how to go out and do it on there own.They pay for there licenses and it’s there right to keep there legal limit.Because he lives and guides right there and is able to hit the river a lot he gives a lot of good reports on whats working on this site.I think if he just gave a report with out the pictures of the fish in the boat a lot of people would not be on there high horse complaining here.A picture of a client holding up a fish and smiling goes a long way and those people that think it’s there state and there fish would not have any thing to [censored] about. They are usually the same ones that mess with out of state plates vehicles when there fishing.Hope you keep the postings up as I look forward to reading them and wishing I could be there myself.When you have so many postings and pictures the wardens are going to take notice the same as when they see a boat come to a ramp twice a day thinking your double dipping their going to check you sooner or later.They are doing there job and now everyone knows you are doing things legally.Bill

    BBKK
    IA
    Posts: 4033
    #1033016

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    A person who hires a guide is usually someone who does not have a boat or the know how to go out and do it on there own.They pay for there licenses and it’s there right to keep there legal limit.Because he lives and guides right there and is able to hit the river a lot he gives a lot of good reports on whats working on this site.I think if he just gave a report with out the pictures of the fish in the boat a lot of people would not be on there high horse complaining here.A picture of a client holding up a fish and smiling goes a long way and those people that think it’s there state and there fish would not have any thing to [censored] about. They are usually the same ones that mess with out of state plates vehicles when there fishing.Hope you keep the postings up as I look forward to reading them and wishing I could be there myself.When you have so many postings and pictures the wardens are going to take notice the same as when they see a boat come to a ramp twice a day thinking your double dipping their going to check you sooner or later.They are doing there job and now everyone knows you are doing things legally.Bill


    Are you a guide?

    I’ve had several guides tell me that most of their clients are out of state anglers new to the area, or locals that just want a better idea of a body of water. Most have boats and extensive knowledge of fishing.

    People who don’t know how to fish or want to learn fishing don’t pay $500 for a walleye guide.

    redrnger
    Posts: 216
    #1033035

    Not a guide,just a member giving his opinion same as everyone else that has posted.

    john_steinhauer
    p4
    Posts: 2998
    #1033036

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    People who don’t know how to fish or want to learn fishing don’t pay $500 for a walleye guide.


    Before they started enforcing having a captains license I guided many days on the river, but after you had to have the captains license I stopped. I had many many many people book with me that where in town on vacation and wanted to see the river from the water and catch some fish. Lots would have to go buy a 24 hr fishing lic cause they didn’t ever fish. So from my experience you bet people that don’t know how to fish will pay to learn how to or want to learn how to focus on a species they don’t know much about.

    I knew very little at all about walleye fishing so I booked a guide now fish them all the time, I also didn’t know anything at all about flat head catfish or sturgeon fishing I wanted to learn so I booked up a trip with BK all to learn. There is no better way to do so than to book a good experienced guide.

    With that being said keep up the good work and hope you and your clients keep having great days on the water and I look forward to reading more of your post.

    gonecribbin
    reads landing MN
    Posts: 517
    #1033042

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    A person who hires a guide is usually someone who does not have a boat or the know how to go out and do it on there own.They pay for there licenses and it’s there right to keep there legal limit.Because he lives and guides right there and is able to hit the river a lot he gives a lot of good reports on whats working on this site.I think if he just gave a report with out the pictures of the fish in the boat a lot of people would not be on there high horse complaining here.A picture of a client holding up a fish and smiling goes a long way and those people that think it’s there state and there fish would not have any thing to [censored] about. They are usually the same ones that mess with out of state plates vehicles when there fishing.Hope you keep the postings up as I look forward to reading them and wishing I could be there myself.When you have so many postings and pictures the wardens are going to take notice the same as when they see a boat come to a ramp twice a day thinking your double dipping their going to check you sooner or later.They are doing there job and now everyone knows you are doing things legally.Bill


    Are you a guide?

    I’ve had several guides tell me that most of their clients are out of state anglers new to the area, or locals that just want a better idea of a body of water. Most have boats and extensive knowledge of fishing.

    People who don’t know how to fish or want to learn fishing don’t pay $500 for a walleye guide.


    Interesting….

    walleyeben
    Albertville,MN
    Posts: 963
    #1033095

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    A person who hires a guide is usually someone who does not have a boat or the know how to go out and do it on there own.They pay for there licenses and it’s there right to keep there legal limit.Because he lives and guides right there and is able to hit the river a lot he gives a lot of good reports on whats working on this site.I think if he just gave a report with out the pictures of the fish in the boat a lot of people would not be on there high horse complaining here.A picture of a client holding up a fish and smiling goes a long way and those people that think it’s there state and there fish would not have any thing to [censored] about. They are usually the same ones that mess with out of state plates vehicles when there fishing.Hope you keep the postings up as I look forward to reading them and wishing I could be there myself.When you have so many postings and pictures the wardens are going to take notice the same as when they see a boat come to a ramp twice a day thinking your double dipping their going to check you sooner or later.They are doing there job and now everyone knows you are doing things legally.Bill


    Are you a guide?

    I’ve had several guides tell me that most of their clients are out of state anglers new to the area, or locals that just want a better idea of a body of water. Most have boats and extensive knowledge of fishing.

    People who don’t know how to fish or want to learn fishing don’t pay $500 for a walleye guide.


    Interesting….


    VERY

    sandmannd
    Posts: 928
    #1033108

    I can’t believe the crying by folks on this site. If you pay to go out with a guide, do you not expect to keep your fish? I also didn’t read anywhere where Dan had a problem with being checked. He was legal, as to be expected with Dan, so there is nothing going on. I see this as people who cry because they don’t have the opportunity to fish or aren’t good enough to catch as many. Dan is one of the best fisherman I’ve ever known and respects the river well. That being said, if people pay him to go out on the boat he’s going to get them a limit if he can. Many times they are dead this time of year. If you’ve never fished the river this time of year then you may not know that you don’t want to run your livewell.

    john23
    St. Paul, MN
    Posts: 2578
    #1033122

    You can’t believe the crying? I can’t believe anyone would defend someone’s “right” to remove hundreds of walleyes out of one body of water every year. It’s no different that native spearing, which is perfectly legal. No different at all. Dan justifies it with his church; the natives justify it with their elders.

    sandmannd
    Posts: 928
    #1033125

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    You can’t believe the crying? I can’t believe anyone would defend someone’s “right” to remove hundreds of walleyes out of one body of water every year. It’s no different that native spearing, which is perfectly legal. No different at all. Dan justifies it with his church; the natives justify it with their elders.


    Is he using a net? Did I miss something? Last I checked he’s using a single hook. Hey, if you wanna live off fish, by all means live off fish. If you want to give some of your catch to the elderly that don’t get out, that’s your right. If you are a guide and worth your salt, I would hope to hell you can get your clients on fish or you won’t last long. Do you think everyone one of those fish went to Dan? If so you aren’t reading the posts.

    You can keep as many or as few fish as you like. But you can’t berate someone for being well within his legal right. You don’t like it, change the laws. Knowing Dan, it won’t keep him from fishing. He loves to fish, not keep fish. Does he keep fish? Yep, sure does, does he break the law while doing it? Not at all.

    Find a new soapbox to get up on.

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