Dubuque Rigs…

  • fish_any_time
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 2097
    #1333042

    I know I could look in the regs, but this may be quicker.

    Can I fish 2 poles on P4 when using these rigs?

    For some reason it’s in the back of my mind that the rules are such not allowing 2 poles per angler due to 2 lures on one line or something of the like.

    powereyes
    Elk River, MN
    Posts: 173
    #959630

    My understanding is that you can not fish two of these rigs per person. I believe a Dubuque rig counts as two “lines”.

    drew-evans
    rochester MN
    Posts: 1099
    #959632

    Quote:


    My understanding is that you can not fish two of these rigs per person. I believe a Dubuque rig counts as two “lines”.


    that is correct, but if you have a wisconsin license then you can have three poles so one dubuque rig and another pole with one bait.

    mark-bruzek
    Two Harbors, MN
    Posts: 3867
    #959633

    Can only use one Dabuque rig per person besause it has 2 sets on it. The dropper jig counts as one and the “lindy” leader counts and the second.

    Same rules would apply to 3 way cranks. You can have 2 rods with one lure on each but if you “piggy back” lures then only one rod.

    C ya Sat. -Mark

    fish_any_time
    Champlin, MN
    Posts: 2097
    #959637

    That is kind of what I thought.

    Thanks.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #959681

    Quote:


    Quote:


    My understanding is that you can not fish two of these rigs per person. I believe a Dubuque rig counts as two “lines”.


    that is correct, but if you have a wisconsin license then you can have three poles so one dubuque rig and another pole with one bait.



    Are you absolutely sure about this Drew? I have both a MN and WI lic every year, but I’ve always understood the law to read that MN residents are restricted to two lines regardless of the fact we have WI non-res licenses.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #959686

    Wade, you would need to be on the WI side of the river if you are a MN resident.

    -J.

    joe-winter
    St. Peter, MN
    Posts: 1281
    #959687

    Wade – you are correct. even if you have both licenses, you are bound to your home states regs. on boundary waters between the 2 states. If you are a WI resident then you can do as Drew said.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #959688

    Quote:


    Wade – you are correct. even if you have both licenses, you are bound to your home states regs. on boundary waters between the 2 states. If you are a WI resident then you can do as Drew said.


    That is only true if you are fishing on the Mn side of the river.

    Remember, a Mn CO cannot enforce Mn law on the Wi side of the river. And a Wi CO will find you in compliance with Wi law on the Wi side of the river.

    -J.

    joe-winter
    St. Peter, MN
    Posts: 1281
    #959691

    Jon – that is not how I understand it. From what you say, it would suggest that I would need a WI license just to fish the WI side of the river – which we know isn’t true.

    Maybe someone else can chime in – unless you know for absolute sure. I thought I was sure. nothing like a little muddy water.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #959692

    Quote:


    Quote:


    Wade – you are correct. even if you have both licenses, you are bound to your home states regs. on boundary waters between the 2 states. If you are a WI resident then you can do as Drew said.


    That is only true if you are fishing on the Mn side of the river.

    Remember, a Mn CO cannot enforce Mn law on the Wi side of the river. And a Wi CO will find you in compliance with Wi law on the Wi side of the river.

    -J.


    Thanks Jon. I think I’ll just stick with two lines/lures. Makes it easier to run fewer lines and is less confusing.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #959697

    I am 100% certain of myanswer.

    This topic has been beaten to death over the last 10 years. If you don’t believe my answer, call the WI DNR and ask for yourself.

    Think about it this way. You are fishing in Wi Waters with a non-res Wi license. You are fishing 3 lines. The Wi CO checks you out. You are in compliance with all WI law. Have a nice day….

    -J.

    Wade Boardman
    Grand Rapids, MN
    Posts: 4453
    #959699

    Quote:


    I am 100% certain of myanswer.

    This topic has been beaten to death over the last 10 years. If you don’t believe my answer, call the WI DNR and ask for yourself.

    Think about it this way. You are fishing in Wi Waters with a non-res Wi license. You are fishing 3 lines. The Wi CO checks you out. You are in compliance with all WI law. Have a nice day….

    -J.



    Oh I believe you.

    joe-winter
    St. Peter, MN
    Posts: 1281
    #959704

    I beleive you too. I think it just leaves sketchy regulating to the CO’s to have to worry about which side you are on. learn something new every day. thanks Jon

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #959705

    Quote:


    it would suggest that I would need a WI license just to fish the WI side of the river


    Joe, you would need a Wi license to fish under Wi law on the Wi side of the river. If you only have a Mn license, you can fish anywhere on the river, but you must follow Mn law. Make sense?

    -J.

    walleye_slayer
    cannon falls, mn
    Posts: 91
    #960066

    that all got real confusing fast

    brett-king
    Posts: 217
    #960072

    I wouldnt be 100% certain on this topic as per my findings.Just last summer as I was trolling the lake by myself I thought I have a WI non resident license so I wonder if I can troll 3 rods.A quick google on the not so smart phone and a phone call to WI DNR and they put me right to the CO officer for that county.Was told that for sure as long as I was on the WI side I could troll 3 rods with or without a WI license (that was right from the co).Three days later I was fishing with my son on the lake and was stopped by the MN CO`s.So they checked us out and then I asked them the same question to be told that if I am in a MN registered boat I had better have a MN fishing license and be following the two line rule no matter which side of the river I was on.He told me with no hesitation that even with a WI license no matter which side of the river they would issue me a ticket.So I have just decided that it is best to not work the gray areas when there are so many things that play into this.I asked the same question to the 2 different states CO`s 3 days apart and got 2 completly different answers.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #960096

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    Remember, a Mn CO cannot enforce Mn law on the Wi side of the river. And a Wi CO will find you in compliance with Wi law on the Wi side of the river.


    Although your answer above is correct Jon, the MN Co’s do write tickets on the WI side.

    I was instructed by a WI DNR Enforcement Supervisor to take the MN ticket that was written in WI to a WI court since it was in WI. He stated it would be unconstitutional to hear my case in MN. (How can a person break a MN law while they are in WI?)

    Although what he said made sense…the person that gets that kind of ticket and try’s to fight it will lose even if the ticket is dismissed because of time and missed work.

    I hate to say it but the federal government needs to get involved in this whole double standard issue to straighten it out because it’s clear that the MN and the WI DNR’s can’t.

    A MN resident must have a MN fishing license and follow the MN rules from train track to train track.

    A person from any state EXCEPT MN could have a WI resident or non resident license and follow the WI laws from train track to train track. (PS remember, you boat license will generally give away your home state)

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #960097

    PS Disclaimer

    This is NOT the same for the two States Hunting laws. In Hunting the river IS divided and one must have the correct state license for the side your hunting on. THAT THEY BOTH AGREE ON!

    Whiskerkev
    Madison
    Posts: 3835
    #960404

    You folks should just move across the river. We have better fish and game laws and better sports teams anyway.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #960412

    Quote:


    a phone call to WI DNR and they put me right to the CO officer for that county.Was told that for sure as long as I was on the WI side I could troll 3 rods with or without a WI license (that was right from the co).


    At the end of the day, this is all that matters….

    -J.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #960413

    Quote:


    Although what he said made sense…the person that gets that kind of ticket and try’s to fight it will lose even if the ticket is dismissed because of time and missed work.


    I’ll take it to court and win every time…

    -J.

    Tom Sawvell
    Inactive
    Posts: 9559
    #960414

    Quote:


    A MN resident must have a MN fishing license and follow the MN rules from train track to train track.

    A person from any state EXCEPT MN could have a WI resident or non resident license and follow the WI laws from train track to train track. (PS remember, you boat license will generally give away your home state)


    This is a law. Period. Good call Brian.

    jon_jordan
    St. Paul, Mn
    Posts: 10908
    #960419

    Quote:


    This is a law.


    Show me the law. The exact statue number.

    -J.

    Steve Vick
    New London, MN
    Posts: 428
    #960435

    Quote:


    I am 100% certain of myanswer.

    This topic has been beaten to death over the last 10 years. If you don’t believe my answer, call the WI DNR and ask for yourself.

    Think about it this way. You are fishing in Wi Waters with a non-res Wi license. You are fishing 3 lines. The Wi CO checks you out. You are in compliance with all WI law. Have a nice day….

    -J.


    Ain’t got time right now…..but R U SURE Jon? I seem to remember being told different from the co’s on pool 4….somehthing about you must obey the laws of the state in which you are licensed in regardless of which side of river you are on. Also, you cannot fish the WI side of the river if you’re from MN WITHOUT a MN license……you must have a license from your state to fish any border waters????? screaminig baby…gotta go..!

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #960487

    Quote:


    I’ll take it to court and win every time…


    Whether you win in court or not, you’ll still lose. Time off from work, parking fees, not even thinking about lawyer fees.

    As the WI supervisor said, “what MN is doing is unconstitutional”….but MN is doing it.

    Steve, on this border water, it’s either license..train track to train track.

    James Holst
    Keymaster
    SE Minnesota
    Posts: 18926
    #960491

    I’ve seen a bunch of tickets issues by MN CO’s in WI waters and vice versa.

    Brian Klawitter
    Keymaster
    Minnesota/Wisconsin Mississippi River
    Posts: 59992
    #960506

    WI Law:

    29.045 Interstate license privileges. (1) FISHING PRIVI-
    LEGES. If the state of Michigan, Minnesota or Iowa confers upon the fishing licensees of this state reciprocal rights, privileges and immunities, a fishing license issued by the other state entitles the licensee to the rights, privileges and immunities, in and upon the boundary waters between the states, of the holder of an equivalent license issued by this state, but subject to the duties, responsibili-
    ties and liabilities imposed on its own licensees by this state.

    Fisherman’s terms: if you’re fishing with a MN license…you might want to follow the MN laws.

    PDF Download<<<

    29.041 Department to regulate hunting and fishing in interstate waters. The department may regulate hunting and fishing on and in all interstate boundary waters, and outlying waters.

    (first download)

    ducksmuggler
    Red Wing, MN
    Posts: 155
    #960572

    You all need to read WIS. and MN. boarder water regs….

    Wis res. can only use 2 lines and MN res. can only use 2 lines….. stated in both states regs. for the miss. track – track.

    Jesse Krook
    Y.M.H.
    Posts: 6403
    #960580

    Quote:


    You all need to read WIS. and MN. boarder water regs….

    Wis res. can only use 2 lines and MN res. can only use 2 lines….. stated in both states regs. for the miss. track – track.


    Where did you read that?

    This is straight from the WI DNR web-site :

    Quote:


    Wisconsin residents need a Wisconsin fishing license and Minnesota residents need a Minnesota license to fish in these boundary waters. Residents of other

    states need a nonresident license from Wisconsin or Minnesota. Regulations on these waters may differ between states. You must obey the regulations

    of the state in which you are fishing.


    So being that I am a WI resident I know I can fish with 3 lines on the WI side of the river and a MN resident may only fish 2 lines on any side of the river because they DO NOT have a WI license which permits 3 lines to an angler.

    >>>Heres a link to the quote I just quoted<<<

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