Walleye tip-ups

Pros n cons for using swedish pimples on tip-ups for walleyes?

I would stick with a plain hook or jig unless it is a wind activated tipup for jigging action.

Pros – in Mn makes the trebble hook legal.

-J.

Jon Jordan wrote:

Pros – in Mn makes the trebble hook legal.

-J.

Treble hook is legal I believe. Below is from regs, page 21.

How many hooks can I use on the end of line? (see illustration below)
• You may use up to three single or multiple-pronged hooks on the end of one fishing line.
• If you use more than one hook, the total length from the first hook to the last hook must be nine inches or less.
• On a designated trout stream or lake, you can’t use more than one hook on the end of
your line. However, you may use an artificial lure or bait that has more than one hook.

You can’t use a plan trebbe in Mn. It has to be part of a lure. Adding a spinner blade will make it legal. Running a plain trebble will get you a ticket.

-J.

Jon, I believe that changed. Look at the reg’s, page 21

Jon, here’s a link to a discussion on this a few years ago.

MN DNR – Treble Hook >>Legal<<

oops, link not working. it’s in the catfish section of this website, December 7, 2011 at 11:43 pm, Brian K

Nothing has changed. Same confusing explanation as printed for years. The trebble has to be part of a lure to be legal.

-J.

You can now use a treble without a bead or blade in MN. I believe that changed in 2011. I could be wrong, but that is how it is worded, IMO.

6262.0100

Subp. 6. Angling tackle.
A. An angler may have up to three single or multiple hooks on a line used as a single tackle configuration attached to the end of a fishing line. The total configuration from the first hook to the last hook must be nine inches or less. Live, artificial, preserved, or dead bait is allowed. This configuration is not considered an artificial bait or fly.
B. An angler may have one additional single or multiple hook on a line as part of an artificial bait as long as it is within three inches of the artificial bait.
C. Except for a single artificial bait or three artificial flies, an angling rig with more than one hook is not allowed on designated trout streams and lakes.

Wouldn’t the spoon portion of a Swedish pimple be the same as a blade or bead? Anyway, to the OP in my opinion you would be fine using a Swedish pimple, however I don’t like using heavier jigs on tip ups bc I want the minnow swimming strong as long as possible. I usually just use a regular red hook, which has been very successful for me.

Pro – You’re increasing the profile of your bait if for instance you’re using a smaller minnow such as a fathead.

Con – The treble hook on a swedish pimple is in my opinion smaller than I would prefer with anything besides a very small minnow.

Let me help to put to rest the discussion of quick-strike legality… Up to 3 treble hooks are absolutely legal for live bait rigs as long as there is no more than 9 inches separating said treble hooks when the rig is stretched out. You DO NOT need to include beads, spinners, etc. to make a quick-strike legal.

The DNR wording may be confusing but there is a picture in the regulations book that clarifies the wording. I have attached a screen grab.

Will

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Will, so with the wording “using up to three”, a single treble would be totally legal.

Erik wrote:

Pros n cons for using swedish pimples on tip-ups for walleyes?

One of my buddies likes doing this where the pimple has the single hook. I think it’s more of a confidence thing for him as I don’t care for it.

Typically I prefer two options. Plain hook with a splitshot up the line to let the bait move freer. If I want it more pinned I use something like a demon jig. My reason for this over the pimple is both lack of confidence and a belief the demon has a higher hooking percentage.

Option C: Did try making a dropper out of a pimple. Basically use some line to have the hook a few inches below the body of the pimple. Only tried it once but still pondering that the theory has value.

Anonymous wrote:

Will, so with the wording “using up to three”, a single treble would be totally legal.

Yes, a single treble is totally legal.

My favorite walleye lure on a tip up is a tulibee colored forrrage minnow. Single hook. With a live minnow hooked from top with point facing back toward tail.

I usually just put treble hooks on my tip-ups. Some days I’ll put on a 1/8 ounce glow jig, but that’s only for the really low visibility days. VMC has treble hooks with a little bit of glow paint on them too. Give it a try though. I’ve caught a Bass while my spinnerbait was barely in the water and I was untangling some line. Who knows? Maybe it will work really good.

Erik wrote:

Pros n cons for using swedish pimples on tip-ups for walleyes?

I fish in Wisconsin btw.

@willroseberg

How would the original IDO rigs not be more than 9″ apart when STRETCHED open? You would probably only be allowed 4″ leads to each to keep the overall treble to treble length under the 9″ limit. Originally you guys used 1ft leaders from a swivel I thought?

OR does adding lure beads and flash make it an actual “lure” instead of just 2 treble hooks????? Just want to ensure my IDO quick strike rigs are legal.

I am referring to the rigs IDO used on a show a while back

James’ Video on Tip Ups on Mille Lacs

have had best luck with kastmaster spoons on tipups versus Swedish pimples.

I think its the flash that does it versus just the color no flash.

although you could use a flashier Swedish pimple mine are all yellow/pink/orange

Have u had any difficulties with drops or hook ups?

I haven’t had any problems with hook-ups or them getting off. Just make sure you check the line and knot after every hook-up.

TripleA wrote:

How would the original IDO rigs not be more than 9″ apart when STRETCHED open? You would probably only be allowed 4″ leads to each to keep the overall treble to treble length under the 9″ limit. Originally you guys used 1ft leaders from a swivel I thought?

OR does adding lure beads and flash make it an actual “lure” instead of just 2 treble hooks????? Just want to ensure my IDO quick strike rigs are legal.

I am referring to the rigs IDO used on a show a while back

Key wording, a while back. That graphic on the right is new to me, and does put it into a different light. Strike rigs “a while back” had to have the bead and/or blade to make it a lure, hence no length restriction. But with that new graphic I would presume you’d be correct each lead could be no longer than 4.5″. I don’t use these rigs often at all so don’t take my word for it.

A quick email to the DNR will clear it up for you, and then you’d have an email to archive in your inbox in case of issue with COs interpreting differently. DNR has always been very prompt in returning emails to myself.

I would definitely just do what you said you would (email the DNR. Just to make sure.

I stand corrected on the single trebble hook rule. Sorry for any confusion.

Here is the reply from the DNR:

From: Abernathy, Jim M (DNR) [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2016 5:02 PM
To: Jordan, Jon K. <>
Subject: RE: Fishing regulation question.

Good Evening
Yes, you can use a treble hook alone. Not necessary to have beads or a spiner.

Jim

James Abernathy
Customer Service Specialist Intermediate
Information Center/OCO
Minnesota Department of Natural Resources
500 Lafayette Rd
St. Paul, Mn, 55155
Phone: 651-296-6157

From: Jordan, Jon K. [mailto:]
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2016 9:10 AM
To: *Info (DNR) <[email protected]>
Subject: Fishing regulation question.

Is it legal to fish a single treble hook under a bobber or tip up in Minnesota? Just the treble hook and bait, no other attachments? (No beads, no spinner)

Thank you!

Jon K. Jordan
St Paul, Mn

Yeah I have the same email from the DNR, I asked last year when using suckers for tip-ups. Your fine, to use a single.

I usually run a single hook on one and a VMC glow treble on another and those have worked good for me, tend to use red. I havent found to much of a need to change it up. I do have quick strike rigs for when I am specifically targeting northerns.