Funny story on the VMC Rattle spoon, I was 8 feet away (in a fish house) from a hole my buddy and I were fishing for Wallys after dark. During times when no marks were being seen for a while, I would rattle the crap out the spoon. And while I was doing it, my buddy could see (on the Marcum) his minnow getting really active and irritated on his line. It rarely drew a fish to me but it did create some action and new marks for him. Keep in mind, he was operating something of a dead stick at the time. Pretty neat little system. Rattle em in and let em hit the nearby dead stick. Just like they say on TV, works like a charm. And when I say I worked it aggressively, I mean I went nuts on that rattle spoon.