Vikings Sign Colin Kaepernick

In a bold move, the Vikings have signed Colin Kaepernick to fill in while Sam Bradford is injured, this after tests show that Bradford will miss at least half the season with a knee injury.

Oops, that was supposed to say ‘Vikings SHOULD have signed Colin Kaepernick’ :).

Seriously though, how is he not signed by someone at this point? A bunch of owners would rather throw away games then hire a competent quarterback because he’s pushing for social change.

I’m surprised some owner from a progressive city like MSP doesn’t take a chance on him. He’s obviously no Tom Brady, but he can make plays with his legs and throws the ball decently(throws less picks/TD than Keenum or Bradford)

As fun as it is watching the Vikings put up 9 points a game, I’m left just wondering why the best player available isn’t signed. Don’t you think Kaep would come in guns a blazing should some team take a chance on him?

Why don’t we have a can of worms emoji? I don’t want to re-hash the old Kaep threads, this is seriously a ‘why do we have a crappy backup QB when a capable one is sitting there unsigned?’ Aren’t we ‘built for winning’ right now? Which is why we threw so much away to pickup Bradford?

you know why he isn’t signed. end of story

Not even going into my opinion of him not standing. (If I was driving down the road and passed it being sung I would pull over and stand)

The reason is he isn’t that good. If he was a team would’ve picked him up by now.

I work in sales and I’ll tell you if someone produces they can be a pain in the arse in and get away with it. If you don’t produce enough better watch your p’s and q’s.

Didnt we have enough drama with randy moss? Like others have said, he really isn’t that good

crappie55369 wrote:

you know why he isn’t signed. end of story

Because he’s not that good. Packer Matthews told him on the field, “He’s no Russell Wilson”.

Phil, Sounds like you read and bought into Jim Souhan’s column in today’s Strib sports page. Here is the link to the online version in case anyone wants to compare notes. Meanwhile, I will refrain on making any other comments.

http://www.startribune.com/a-year-after-bold-move-for-sam-bradford-vikings-could-have-used-colin-kaepernick-as-backup/445174023/

there are a lot of current NFL players that aren’t that good and they all have jobs. He doesn’t have a job because NFL owners are businessman who are in it to make money and they don’t have the balls to risk alienated their fan base by signing someone who could potentially help their team win. I don’t even think this is really a question. If you asked all 32 NFL team owners im confident that at least half of them would come right out and say “yeah, what he said”. Hey they own the team so its their prerogative. He may not be that good, but aint nobody gonna convince me that Josh McNown, Case Keenam, Brian Hoyer, Tom Savage/Watson, Deshon Kizer, Mike Glennon, or Jacoby Briskett are any better than he is. This is a list of starters, We aren’t even talking about backups or backups to the backups, or practise squad players. He’s not good enough? Please

I dont care one way or the other about the whole political angle to this. Knock yourself out – I’ve got my own life to live.

But I dont care what anyone says: Colin Kaepernick is not a good QB. I thought he was terrible when he was playing.

Passes hitting the ground in front of wide open receivers, stupid reads, etc. In my opinion as a QB he SUCKED.

Tim Huston wrote:

I dont care one way or the other about the whole political angle to this. Knock yourself out – I’ve got my own life to live.

But I dont care what anyone says: Colin Kaepernick is not a good QB. I thought he was terrible when he was playing.

Passes hitting the ground in front of wide open receivers, stupid reads, etc. In my opinion as a QB he SUCKED.

You can be correct in your assessment and yet that does not explain why he doesn’t have a job. Why? Because there are plenty of NFL teams that roll out exactly what you described every Sunday. Andy Dalton had a total qbr of 0.6 in week 1

Yeah, he’s as good as maybe a few starters out there, maybe not. He’s not worth the marketing hit, the potential chemistry problems or whatever ridiculous price he is asking.

I’m sure if he hadn’t taken a knee he’d be a back up somewhere bright now.

It was his right to take a knee instead of stand. It would be my right to boycott any event he was part of. This is why he has not been signed, far too many people would boycott whoever signs him. Revenue is the only driving force for these owners. Winning means nothing if your fans won’t pay to watch you win.

He’s good enough to be on a roster somewhere. At least good enough to bring in for a workout. I personally don’t agree with him but I will give him some credit as he is one of the few who has tossed some money towards organizations that he feels will help.

All of that being said. When your distraction is equal to your talent or maybe even exceededs it it’s not shocking to see why he hasn’t been signed.

business decision… he created this controversy in the business he was in, while he was being paid. now he can deal with it… imho a dumb business decision on his part… now he can take care of his business on his own. picturing him in his living room… kneeling on the floor everytime the anthem comes on, with nobody watching… priceless.

I really think he belongs in Minnesota. After all I think he even chews SKOL.

Mike Stephens wrote:

I really think he belongs in Minnesota. After all I think he even chews SKOL.

Mike are your arms sore? I thought they might be after all that stirring the pot haha

crappie55369 wrote:

…because NFL owners are businessman who are in it to make money and they don’t have the balls to risk alienated their fan base…

Please tell me this isn’t a genuinely sincere statement.

I couldn’t care less about football, but the fans are kind of like the customers….

crappie55369 wrote:

there are a lot of current NFL players that aren’t that good and they all have jobs. He doesn’t have a job because NFL owners are businessman who are in it to make money and they don’t have the balls to risk alienated their fan base by signing someone who could potentially help their team win. I don’t even think this is really a question. If you asked all 32 NFL team owners im confident that at least half of them would come right out and say “yeah, what he said”. Hey they own the team so its their prerogative. He may not be that good, but aint nobody gonna convince me that Josh McNown, Case Keenam, Brian Hoyer, Tom Savage/Watson, Deshon Kizer, Mike Glennon, or Jacoby Briskett are any better than he is. This is a list of starters, We aren’t even talking about backups or backups to the backups, or practise squad players. He’s not good enough? Please

Watson in Houston is a rookie and was drafted to be their eventual frachise QB. Jacoby Brissett is an unknown but played well when Brady was suspended last year and is just a stop gap in Indy until Luck is ready to go, Glennon is starting only until Turbisky is ready to go. Keenam is a backup and was not expected to play.

I said last year MN should have brought in Kap. I think he is worth working out this year.

Isnt playing in the NFL supposed to be a privledge? Not a given, just cause you might be good enough? The same rights he has to protest against our national anthem, are the same rights the owners have on not signing him. I never thought he was great, im partial to a passing QB instaed of a running one anyways, but ultimately you are a product and need to sell yourself. If nobody wants to buy “the whole package” your gonna sit on the shelf……

crappie55369 wrote:

You can be correct in your assessment and yet that does not explain why he doesn’t have a job.

Now who said he doesn’t have a job…?

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His problem is he is not a pocket quarterback. You need to tailor your entire offense around him to make it work. He just isnt a true nfl quarterback. On top of that I believe all cops have a tough job. Like all jobs some people are real good at it and some are not regardless of training. And some people are plain bad- even cops. If he feels he should make a statement about that at his employers house then pay the price.

He’s a terrible QB, enough said!

I say you are employing the same “click bait” formula all the fake story folks use. Getting tired of it.

Social change?…… Thats the biggest bunch of BS I’ve heard in a long time!

As dumb as Ziggy is he is not dumb enough to hire that D-bag. Even he knows that Vikes fans would turn their backs on the team from a move like that.

mark-bruzek wrote:

Social change?…… Thats the biggest bunch of BS I’ve heard in a long time!

As dumb as Ziggy is he is not dumb enough to hire that D-bag. Even he knows that Vikes fans would turn their backs on the team from a move like that.

Agreed.

That clown is like a cancer

sticker wrote:

He’s a terrible QB, enough said!

A terrible QB who was a gimmick player and got lucky ONE season to make it to the Superbowl. Couple that with the fact that he is “controversial” that is why he doesn’t have a job. Simple as that.
Those Comparing him to Dalton? Please! I guess by that assessment Ponder is a better QA going off that rating. #facepalm.

as with any job, employers weigh the potential good with the baggage. Now in this instance you have individual teams and the NFL as a whole. the NFL took a huge viewership hit last year. Many attribute a portion of that to this whole saga. So owners as well as the NFL really don’t want him around for that purpose.

And i don’t think its for kneeling. I don’t think thats the reason he doesnt’ have a job. Its all thats come with it. him wearing cop/pig socks, him championing fidel castro and che gueverra (who militarized police forces and used them as your henchmen which is the exact opposite of his supposed cause) and last but not least, his gf saying nfl owners are modern day slave owners.

Coupled with the fact that he’s just not that great of a QB and a marginal starter/backup, you won’t get a job. sorry. welcome to America. Free Speech has private and corporate consequences.

there is a guy on twitter who retweets old tweets from talking heads who NOW champion his ability to play QB. All the old tweets are pre kneeling when they all said he was a bad qb. its pretty funny.

I definitely don’t think he’s a top flight quarterback, but there is a lot of room between ‘great quarterback’ and ‘Case Keenum’.

I actually completely disagree with the sentiment that owners would lose money/support if he was signed. Ultimately, fans care about getting wins. See: Patrick Kane and the other COUNTLESS cases of athletes getting their *ahem* transgressions more or less ignored because it meant their team had a better chance to win with them in the lineup.

That said, I don’t compare Kaep to most of those players, as there are FAR worse crimes that were overlooked by fans, Kaep didn’t actually do anything wrong really. Rape/beat up girlfriend….who cares, kneel during national anthem…’OMG WHAT A MONSTER’.

If a team signed Kaep and it turned their season around, I guarantee you see little if any financial impact on the owners side. Honestly, if having him in the lineup gets you 1 more win and into the playoffs then the benefit far outweighs the risk with the extended season.

Has anyone actually looked at his stats?

QBs with a worse QB Rating in 2016:
Carson Palmer
Eli Manning
Phillip Rivers
Joe Flacco
Carson Wentz

*Only played 9 games in 2015*

QBs with a worse QB rating in 2014:
Matthew Stafford
Teddy
Cam Newton
Andy Dalton

Like honestly, when you look at the numbers he’s a MUCH better option than someone like Keenum. Anyone arguing with that is just being silly.

stats mean very little esp qbr. his games were virually meaningless other team already had the game put away type games.

his style of play is not a pro style offense..so there are fewer systems where he’s a fit.

add in the circus and the fact that he’s a fringe player and its ripe for people to leave him be.

It actually makes perfect sense from a corporate standpoint.

they literally have real viewing statistics and polling numbers that suggest this stuff HAS damaged viewership. it once again makes perfect sense to not even put on the gloves to mess with this plutonium.

Plenty of QBs have had some success with ‘not nfl styles’ of play though. Our backup quarterbacks have NO success playing ‘nfl style’.

NFL style is great if you have the skills to be effective, but a pocket passer who can’t hit open targets or get rid of the ball in time is more detrimental than a guy like Kaepernick. Both of them are not going to complete passes like a competent pocket passer, but at least Kaep gives you some ability to make plays with his legs. That’s like saying, “I don’t want Tim Wakefield on my pitching staff because he only throws the ball 75mph, I’d rather put in this dude that serves up 95 mph meatballs because he pitches like an mlb pitcher”

Would love to see the viewing statistics, cause I haven’t actually seen anything definitive besides people basically saying:
‘I won’t watch NFL if he’s playing because America’
– Dude in Texas with NFL Red Zone parked in front of 5 TVs with every divisional game on at one time.

Please send me a link showing some causality, I’d like to be informed.

I remember when the Blackhawks had trouble selling tickets after Kane was accused of rape. And when the Lakers had trouble filling their arena after Kobe was also accused. Or when the Vikings saw ratings go down after AP came back from his suspension for beating his child. Or when the Ravens couldn’t sell tickets when Ray Rice was caught on camera punching his girlfriend, or when Ravens legend Ray Lewis basically murdering a dude in cold blood. The Cubs definitely saw a big hit in their ratings last year when they traded for wife abuser Aroldis Chapman too, last year was a disaster for them.

Fans are transparent, fans are fickle, fans want to see their team win and deep down most of them don’t care if it’s a bunch of rapists and crooks winning them the championship.

So rape, child abuse, spousal abuse, murder don’t seem to cause a blip in th ratings/revenue radar. It’s almost like being a terrible human being doesn’t seem to matter, almost something else in this situation that is different. If only I could put my finger on it….