Kwesi made some great moves today. Who cares about giving that bum to the packers. We won that trade according to the draft grade charts and kwesi moved up and got the guy we would have taken at 34 in booth.
As erin likes to say “Everyone calm down”
If the receiver the Pack got due to Team Queezy is as good or better than Sidney Rice, and the Booth turns into a problem child, those experts who said we won the trade will have egg on their faces. I don’t know the kid from ND from boo, but problem child vibes were what I got from Booth. Cine, the 1st pick, seemed wise beyond his years, just like rookie Dalvin Cook or rookie Harrison Smith. The kid from Clemson seemed immature, and that generally spells trouble on the field or off, sometimes both. Hope I am wrong, but those were the vibes I picked up.
Kwesi gets a C- at best.
No difference makers that will translate to more wins. Seems his plan was to draft for depth. Poor to average teams shouldn’t be drafting for depth..
While most teams come out of the weekend with better overall teams and talent, the Vikings are the same team as they were last year.
Kwesi gets a C- at best.
No difference makers that will translate to more wins. Seems his plan was to draft for depth. Poor to average teams shouldn’t be drafting for depth..
While most teams come out of the weekend with better overall teams and talent, the Vikings are the same team as they were last year.
Couldn’t disagree more. Our biggest need coming into the draft was our secondary and we added two of the best prospects in this class. Our next pick was used on interior o line which is another area of weakness and then we got another corner in the 4th.
As far as kwesis unorthodox trading I have mixed feelings about that but to suggest we didn’t make our team better with this draft is ludicrous IMHO
I thought the Vikes had a good draft. Like every draft, no player chosen is ever a sure thing in the NFL but I think they got some players that can step in and make a difference this year.
I really liked their concentration on the secondary too since their secondary ranking was 25 in the league last season according to PFF and the guys they got really look to be good in all aspects of coverage. I’d bet that a few of them will make it in the NFL.
I knew nothing about the running back they got and I was somewhat surprised with the pick but he looks to be really, really good on tape. I’m excited to see him on the field.
I fail to see where this team made any improvements to their roster for this year. I guess we will wait and see.
Bet most of you didn’t know this, but the last time the Vikes spent a first rounder on the d-line was 2004.
18 years ago. Unbelievable.
I guess the saying that you build in the trenches doesn’t resonate with the them..
Bet most of you didn’t know this, but the last time the Vikes spent a first rounder on the d-line was 2004.
18 years ago. Unbelievable.
I guess the saying that you build in the trenches doesn’t resonate with the them..
Sharrif Floyd-2013
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
Bet most of you didn’t know this, but the last time the Vikes spent a first rounder on the d-line was 2004.18 years ago. Unbelievable.
I guess the saying that you build in the trenches doesn’t resonate with the them..
Sharrif Floyd-2013
Also Erasumus James in 2005.
Bet most of you didn’t know this, but the last time the Vikes spent a first rounder on the d-line was 2004.
18 years ago. Unbelievable.
I guess the saying that you build in the trenches doesn’t resonate with the them..
are you saying we needed to draft a DL player early? I would say we are pretty set on the D-line and with outside standup rushers. With Harrison, Tomlinson, Hunter, Smith and Wonnum we are pretty stacked up front. Not to mention promising draft picks from a year ago in Robinson and Jones
Smart teams draft BPA. Teams that nail drafts draft BPA AND pair that up with team needs. The Ravens are always excellent at this. Lewis Cine and Andrew Booth were both pretty close to the top prospects available where they were selected and both filled a position of need.
Forgot about Floyd and James….now I guess we know the reason they don’t want to pick D-line in the first round.
Since 2000, we’ve had 5 first round d-lineman draft picks, or about 22%. I think thats a pretty reasonable allocation to the position. Like crappie said, BPA is where you get the most bang for your buck. When your need blinds your draft strategy, then a lot of the time you end up reaching.
You guys are talking out both sides of your mouth.
In one sentence you say we needed secondary help and we got it.
Next sentence you say drafting BPA is best.
LOL..
You guys are talking out both sides of your mouth.
In one sentence you say we needed secondary help and we got it.
Next sentence you say drafting BPA is best.
LOL..
No. those two sentences do not conflict with each other. our weakness was secondary and you always draft BPA. If Aiden Hutchinson fell to pick 12 we draft Aiden Hutchinson. If Evan Neal falls to pick 12 we draft Evan Neal. None of that changes the fact that secondary was our biggest weakness. You can go ahead with your narrative that we havent drafted a D-lineman in the 1st round since 1983 or whenever you said….
The two mistakes in judging a draft are reacting to what happens in the instant (ie trading back), and the other is judging it immediately after. The first is just silly as was demonstrated this year, and the second is fun if a bit of a waste of time. During the draft I was like most questioning why we were trading back ala Spielman, especially with division teams (Lions aren’t a rival, at least not yet). But by Saturday the plan came together and looked to have a purpose and well executed. After the draft analysis, no one knows for 2-3 years. Certainly like Cine and Booth, although I wanted Hamilton at 12, but if they both are special teamers or marginal starters it will be a bust. If they are solid to above average starters along with the OL, and some of the deeper picks, it will be a great draft. I was surprised that Michigan State WR fell that far, he can play.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
You guys are talking out both sides of your mouth.In one sentence you say we needed secondary help and we got it.
Next sentence you say drafting BPA is best.
LOL..
No. those two sentences do not conflict with each other. our weakness was secondary and you always draft BPA. If Aiden Hutchinson fell to pick 12 we draft Aiden Hutchinson. If Evan Neal falls to pick 12 we draft Evan Neal. None of that changes the fact that secondary was our biggest weakness. You can go ahead with your narrative that we havent drafted a D-lineman in the 1st round since 1983 or whenever you said….
What’s your take on the alleged child rapist Kwesi took in the 2nd round?
BPA?
What’s your take on the alleged child rapist Kwesi took in the 2nd round?
BPA?
He was 16 at the time.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
What’s your take on the alleged child rapist Kwesi took in the 2nd round?BPA?
He was 16 at the time.
Oh…Forgivable then.
I’m not going to pretend to know the truth, but the allegations that got him arrested and suspended were pretty disgusting whether he was 16 or 36. Let’s hope they weren’t true. Age really shouldn’t factor into it.
Oh…Forgivable then.
Didnt say that, but you made it sound like he was an adult when that wasnt the case. Either way the charges were dropped so if they had enough to go after him I would think they would have.
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
You guys are talking out both sides of your mouth.In one sentence you say we needed secondary help and we got it.
Next sentence you say drafting BPA is best.
LOL..
No. those two sentences do not conflict with each other. our weakness was secondary and you always draft BPA. If Aiden Hutchinson fell to pick 12 we draft Aiden Hutchinson. If Evan Neal falls to pick 12 we draft Evan Neal. None of that changes the fact that secondary was our biggest weakness. You can go ahead with your narrative that we havent drafted a D-lineman in the 1st round since 1983 or whenever you said….
Or if Hamilton falls into your lap you….er um never mind.
In one sentence you say we needed secondary help and we got it.
nope, didn’t say that. LOL
I kept waiting for the Costner moment…. 
never happened. 
Or if Hamilton falls into your lap you….er um never mind.
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Hey at least now we can find out if Kwesi made the correct pick. Who’s going to make the probowl first, Cine or Hamilton? Both play safety so we should find out in 5 years or so
Or if Hamilton falls into your lap you….er um never mind.
trust me i was pretty pissed when we didnt select Hamilton. he has been the player i wanted us to take at 12 for weeks. Oh well, whats done is done
Or if Hamilton falls into your lap you….er um never mind.
Hey at least now we can find out if Kwesi made the correct pick. Who’s going to make the probowl first, Cine or Hamilton? Both play safety so we should find out in 5 years or so
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Or if Hamilton falls into your lap you….er um never mind.
Hey at least now we can find out if Kwesi made the correct pick. Who’s going to make the probowl first, Cine or Hamilton? Both play safety so we should find out in 5 years or so
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They still could have gotten him in the second if that was “their guy”
<div class=”d4p-bbt-quote-title”>stout93 wrote:</div>
Oh…Forgivable then.Didnt say that, but you made it sound like he was an adult when that wasnt the case. Either way the charges were dropped so if they had enough to go after him I would think they would have.
Charges were dropped because the girls didn’t show up to court.
Charges were dropped because the girls didn’t show up to court.
I wasnt able to find this referenced anywhere, but I suppose that would generally be reason for dismissal.
Kwesi took pick 12 and turned it into Cine, Booth, Ingram, and Asamoah.
That’s damn impressive IMO.
Kwesi took pick 12 and turned it into Cine, Booth, Ingram, and Asamoah.
That’s damn impressive IMO.
Rick is that you?
Cine-fine
Booth- has not been healthy since high school. Could have gotten him in the second reguardless.
Ingram-Sketchy past to say the least
Asamoah-won’t see the field except for special teams this year. Depth player at at a non premium position in the 3-4 scheme.
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